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08 Sep 2007, 3:55 pm

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See Danny can do it and he is under 5 foot.

uhh right ....but Danny is a famous actor and he has good $$$ so he won't have hard time to find a mate . (besides his taller wife is not that gorgeous ) ....so he 's exception .

Besides even Danny is not invulnerable against heightism ....in most of the movies that he acts in them there's always 1 or 2 'shorties jokes' .

Sure but he made money out of it, he wasn't always rich. He has some talent.

That is exactly it though you don't find his wife attractive, some gilds don't find short men attractive. You can only play to your strength. It is not really heightism as in ageism or racism.

Maybe you could argue that their opinion is based on ignorance but you could say the same about 'ugly' girls.

Hieghtism would be: 'you can’t work here because you’re short and we do not trust little elves'.

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08 Sep 2007, 4:33 pm

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See Danny can do it and he is under 5 foot.

Sure but he made money out of it, he wasn't always rich. He has some talent.

That is exactly it though you don't find his wife attractive, some gilds don't find short men attractive. You can only play to your strength. It is not really heightism as in ageism or racism.

Maybe you could argue that their opinion is based on ignorance but you could say the same about 'ugly' girls.

Heightism would be: 'you can’t work here because you’re short and we do not trust little elves'.

It's rare today to hear a employer saying : ' you can't work here because you're black and we do not trust blacks ' . Yet it still exists .

And what about when some people call short people as 'shrimps' ? This exactly ugly like calling black men as chocolatemen or fat men as 'pigs' ...but the society would punish the people who say such things . Yet it still socially acceptable to call shorties as 'shrimps'

Hieghtism often exists unconsciously . And what about girls who say : " I don't date you because you're too short"/or "I want someone taller' . Is this not Hieghtism ? Hieghtism is not a myth or short men's illusion . It exists

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08 Sep 2007, 4:43 pm

I am 5'10", and I feel I am too short to atttract anyone, unless she is an Aspie.

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08 Sep 2007, 4:49 pm

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Hieghtism often exists unconsciously . And what about girls who say : " I don't date you because you're too short"/or "I want someone taller' . Is this not Hieghtism ? Hieghtism is not a myth or short men's illusion . It exists

Well that's it you can't say that is wrong, sure maybe they could have not mentioned it. Anyone could just say they don't find someone physically attractive. Is that bodyist?

Sure attitude can be shaped within society but there is not really a right and wrong about it. It is still a personal choice who someone dates.

You could ague the perception of short people is being skewed. But perception is not absolute in the fist place.

I would more argue against maybe how people are being portrayed in media. It is really up to you if you think it is viable to swing things around.

The way I see it, and I include myself in this, with all of you personal shortcomings and weaknesses you can either play to your weaknesses or be smart and play to your strengths. We have to think outside of the box, flatten the box and take a sharp knife to it.

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08 Sep 2007, 4:53 pm

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I am 5'10", and I feel I am too short to atttract anyone, unless she is an Aspie.

Tim

Cause yeh, if you had distraction osteogenesis the NT girls will love you

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08 Sep 2007, 4:57 pm

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Heightism is just one of the so-many forms of Appearance-based discrimination .

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ue against maybe how people are being portrayed in media. It is really up to you if you think it is viable to swing things around.

The way I see it, and I include myself in this, with all of you personal shortcomings and weaknesses you can either play to your weaknesses or be smart and play to your strengths. We have to think outside of the box, flatten the box and take a sharp knife to it.[

Things are not that simple in the dating/romance life .

Yet in other aspects of life like work and social life( except romance) I do play on my strengths in order to hide some of my weaknesses and to gain respect .

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08 Sep 2007, 4:58 pm

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I am 5'10", and I feel I am too short to atttract anyone, unless she is an Aspie.

Tim

Cause yeh, if you had distraction osteogenesis the NT girls will love you

What's distraction osteogenesis?

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08 Sep 2007, 5:00 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distraction_osteogenesis

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08 Sep 2007, 5:08 pm

Let me give you examples of Heightism in life .

-In military school fpr officers ... the required height is 5'3'' I guess here in lebanon . YET , they accept all heights for the 1 year obligatory military service .

Does this mean that people who are 5'2'' are naturally impaired physically and mentally to be officers ? Are the short people can only be lowest-rank soldiers and not officers ?

Even worse , there's even a required height in US Airforce and the candidate should at least be 162 cm . Why height should matter for pilots as long they drive the same planes ????

- There's a lot of pretty petite girls with great bodies ...yet they can't be models nor to join beauty contests as Miss world and so on.

-Also they require a minimum height for Hostesses ....why? Do they serve the passengers better than the short girls?

.....etc

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08 Sep 2007, 5:24 pm

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Let me give you example of Heightism in life .

In military school of officers ... the required height is 5'2'' I guess here in lebanon .
Does this mean that people who are 5'1'' are naturally less competent physically and mentally.

Even worse , there's even a required height in US Airforce and the candidate should at least be 162 cm . Why height should matter for pilots as long they drive the same planes????

These are better examples but still not clear cut.

Well not necessarily there used to have similar type thing for the UK military.

Sure you can say that 5"1' might be able do the job and those that are short are suited to some jobs maybe someone taller doesn't have.

But still the cut-off is fairly arbitrary it is probably based on experience of how fast they can asses fitness and get the most passes in the time.

Air force, again depends on the job. Fighter pilot does have to be a particular size and fitness.

Just like jockeys are normally very small because tall jockeys weigh too much and are clumsy ridding a horse.

None of theses negates proving them wrong. In 2002 there was marine that was the first woman to achieve her green beret to become a commando, they have to pass a nine-week all-arms commando course to get it.

What you need to do is campaign that the Lebanese army provide jobs for people that are under 5”2’.

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08 Sep 2007, 5:26 pm

I edited my previous post to add ' YET , they accept all heights for the 1 year obligatory military service . '

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08 Sep 2007, 5:31 pm

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But still the cut-off is fairly arbitrary it is probably based on experience of how fast they can asses fitness and get the most passes in the time.

Now this is unconscious discriminative statement . It's like saying : But still the cut-off is fairly arbitrary for not allowing women to join the army based on some previous experience .

No, it is NOT fairly arbitrary .

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08 Sep 2007, 5:54 pm

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But still the cut-off is fairly arbitrary it is probably based on experience of how fast they can asses fitness and get the most passes in the time.

what do you mean? it is arbitrary. Look up arbitrary in the dictionary

They could chose 5'2" or 5'3" or 5'1" it is an arbitrary cut off, based on *some* subjective assessment.

Jeez you are a hard person to please...

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08 Sep 2007, 7:45 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

I am 5'10", and I feel I am too short to atttract anyone, unless she is an Aspie.

Tim

Who cares, man!
I'm 5'10'' as well & unable to look or sound attractive.

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08 Sep 2007, 8:24 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:

Even worse , there's even a required height in US Airforce and the candidate should at least be 162 cm . Why height should matter for pilots as long they drive the same planes ????

Feet have to reach the pedals?

Still, seems like size is a disadvantage to pilots.

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08 Sep 2007, 8:35 pm

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Even worse , there's even a required height in US Airforce and the candidate should at least be 162 cm . Why height should matter for pilots as long they drive the same planes ????

Feet have to reach the pedals?

Still, seems like size is a disadvantage to pilots.

Certain planes have very specific height ranges for pilots.

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