28 Sep 2007, 2:28 pm
ToadOfSteel wrote:
The "alpha male" is a part of the Reptilian complex, something that has been around since the age of the dinosaurs, and possibly much earlier. If humans were ruled on the basis of who was physically strongest, or by testosterone levels, the NFL would probably be the world government (or at least a national government).
I know ...but I took the primates as examples because humans are in this category .
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It's bad from the standpoint of physical strength/constitution and what not. Not so for a sapient species that is supposedly more evolved than their simian cousins. Many "beta" and "gamma" males, as you state them, are forced to use other methods than physical strength if they are to survive. Therefore, there are also many advantageous
True ...and one of these tools today is MONEY . You see ...female humanoids were used to pick the strongest male because he would have the necessary muscles to be a good hunter that would provide food for family . Today ...these muscles can be substituted by man's success = wealth ....but still the old extincts exist .
Have you ever see a girl that like a weak p**** not rich guy? girls usually pick either a macho man or a rich man....usually younger girls go for the first category since they are more controlled by their hormones than their brain but when they grow up they go for the second category , of course they always wish to have a man who has both characteristics "the right one" but this is rare . In fact, women usually choose the successful men today for the same reason that women chose the strong hunter in cave days : the survival extinct .
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The point I'm trying to make is that reverting to primate (or earlier) instincts runs counter to the concept of evolution, where we should be trying to become improved over earlier primates. Many species of animals on earth became extinct over the eons to events beyond their control. Thanks to human intelligence, we can eventually learn to survive an extinction level event as a species where many of your "alpha male" societies will merely die out without significant outside intervention.
LOL Please , don't overrate the human's "intelligence" ...this fool creature called homo sapien is killing the whole planet since his appearance leaving an environmental disaster for the future , what kind of survival strategy is this?
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Since the evolution of the modern human, humanity has been a species with an identity crisis: Lower functional instincts are still holding sway over humanity, especially prevalent in "alpha male"-style populations of humans in certain locations. On the contrary, higher brain functions such as sapience and intelligence have given humans an advantage that no species can match, and this is how humans have dominated the planet. Humanity has started to supercede the "alpha male" system with a system of rational thought, but this process is still ongoing, and will take some evolutionary time to complete. That is, if the "alpha male" system doesn't attempt to fight back so hard that humans end up destroying themselves or regressing back to non-sapience. Intelligence gives us the ability to create technology to aid us, which may eventually include cybernetic enhancements that will provide humanity a way to fully transcend this "alpha male" system and truly become our own masters, no longer submitting to the will of nature .
You have a point here .
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(ironic, given that the "alpha male" system is supposedly based on dominance)
Haha , exactly ....my theory is that there's a 2 kind of alpha males among humans today : the natural alphas ...and the self-created alphas.
The natural alpha is the alpha by birth, the born alpha , the typical MASCULINE strong and tall male who attract all girls since the teenage stage of his life .
The self-created alphas are the beta/gamma(and even some natural alphas) males who, through their success (=money) ,are able to attract female equivalent (if not better) as any other . Woody Allen is a perfect example , most women find him as very unattractive when it comes to his looks , woody admitted himself that he never could get a date before he became famous . After he became famous and rich he could have the most attractive women ....the secret of his current attraction is his success and money. Money today is like physical strength in the prehistorical days ....with it you can be a dominate male .
Of course there's some males who are both
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28 Sep 2007, 2:35 pm
Who_Am_I wrote:
So... what you are trying to say... is that humans are JUST LIKE gorillas?
Hmm.
Hmm.
No ,but we share many characteristics with them ...we share a common ancestor too
28 Sep 2007, 2:39 pm
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28 Sep 2007, 2:50 pm
Pugly wrote:
ZakFiend wrote:
Well guess what, times change, you got a brain, so use it. YOU are responsible for your life and how it turns out right? There are plenty of resources available, just message contact me and I'll send them to you. If you're not serious about improving yourself then don't bother.
Why are you so antagonistic.
And I thought I was following your advice... I was turning off my brain... like you said.
You really are sounding like a pusher of products here. This whole topic, in addition to others, sounds like an infomercial...
Just hire Billy Mayes and be done with it...
Sorry for being pushy, I just get annoyed when people back away from trying to improve themselves. You were the one who posted the thinking guy right? Well I told you why women were not attracted to deep introverted thinking guy -- the are not built to like him, they can manage him in small doses, but don't make it the mainstay of your toolset when trying to engage and keep a woman. You got to take into account HER needs as a woman. Aspies because of their egocentricity have a difficult time modelling other peoples needs besides their own, so they appear selfish when they are really just projecting their needs on others and then asking why they have such a hard time finding it... because we are different in what psychologically rewards us versus an NT.
28 Sep 2007, 3:10 pm
28 Sep 2007, 9:24 pm
Pugly wrote:
ZakFiend wrote:
...There are plenty of resources available, just message contact me and I'll send them to you....
You really are sounding like a pusher of products here. This whole topic, in addition to others, sounds like an infomercial... Just hire Billy Mayes and be done with it...
Billy Mays wrote:
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29 Sep 2007, 1:47 am
29 Sep 2007, 8:06 am
NeantHumain wrote:
Billy Mays wrote:
Hi, Billy Mays here to tell you fine ladies about ZakFiend! He cleans and deep-scrubs his own posterior, and he removes tough grime from all your dishes using patent-pending orange zest technology! Sometimes he comes off sounding like a jack@$$, but that's the abrasive that removes tough-to-remove stains and mildew from your shower wall! When he's not in storage with the OxiClean, OrangeGlo, and other cleaning products, he can push misogynist relationship advice on websites for people with social-emotional and developmental disabilities!
Now, ladies, how much do you think such a great deal would cost? Not $200! Not $50! Not even nothing! Ladies, he'll pay you! So what have you got to lose?
Now, ladies, how much do you think such a great deal would cost? Not $200! Not $50! Not even nothing! Ladies, he'll pay you! So what have you got to lose?
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That just made my day... and my day just started!
30 Sep 2007, 7:06 am
Sticky this damn thread already!! It explains everything about why women go for "jerks". 
30 Sep 2007, 9:19 am
ZakFiend wrote:
Sticky this damn thread already!! It explains everything about why women go for "jerks".
You just want a thread started by you stickied...
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