What kinds of things do guys do that make you feel good?
What's the works?
Tim
Shagging
Oh, Cockney!
I love Asperger's.
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Now I've found someone who is utterly enchanting and intriguing to me, inside and out. He makes me happy just by breathing! I'm pleased and honored beyond belief by the fact that he shares who he is, with me.
Thats how I think I am with women as well, to the point where if someone asked me what my type was or what I really wanted. Aside from independence and self-sufficiency (not to mention the necessary lead in for both parties, a good degree of physical attraction and chemistry) its so relative to the girl that there's no clean cut answer to that one.
I think the bottom line is can she feel the kind of love that I'd prefer (much like you said - its essence over form), that's what I'd really be shooting for. I can't ignore gender role completely in the sense that she'll have things that she'll probably do for me just to feel good herself and I need to respect and acknowledge that the way it should be - and of course I'd want the same but my hopes would be that me and her would definitely have the guts to talk things through rather than getting flighty when a short term issue hits our ways (which I know I can just as easily be guilty of at times but that's the thing, feeling safe with someone is paramount and open communication's gotta be one of those things that feels like its smiled upon rather than something that subtracts).
If you've found a guy like your looking for awesome, just remember though what it seems like your chasing is the root of it all - pretty much the pure essence of what makes a proper relationship tick; stay true to it and if he can understand the philosophy your on you guys should do well
Yeah. The good ones would probably do that.
Hey, that's my litmus test. If they're offended at Jesus, I want them to depart my life promptly. Just like Jesus is going to tell you, "I never knew you. Depart, you worker of iniquity" (Matt 7:23). And He won't simply be talking about leaving the room.
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Yeah. The good ones would probably do that.
And BTW, you've just insulted my ex-wife, my ex-fiancé, my ex-girlfriend from my early teen years, all my friends, and all my family. Good job.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Did he say he hates women? Or, does he directly imply that he hates women?
If not, you can't rightly call him a misogynist.
His words are pretty indicative of
a generalized bitterness towards
women.
Key word: "bitterness". Ah, I see! So, if you're bitter at someone, that means you wish them dead? Well, maybe for you, I dunno... But I personally have quite a gulf between perturbment and hatred. For you, I think they're the same thing. Haven't you recommended the deaths of children in various posts?
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
a generalized bitterness towards
women.
Key word: "bitterness". Ah, I see! So, if you're bitter at someone, that means you wish them dead? Well, maybe for you, I dunno... But I personally have quite a gulf between perturbment and hatred.
"Hate" is a word which often means far less than to wish someone dead. Let's look at a Biblical example.
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment... anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
23"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
So we're told to hate our families, but if we're angry with our brother and call him a fool, we're headed for hell. This sounds like a VERY mild hate, certainly nowhere near to wishing our family dead. More like relatively weak or conditional love.
walking by a computer on the way out of a hotel, turning my head to read "I am so in love with you"....
coming home after a few hours out and find all of my magnetic poetry (a gazillion magnetic words), all arranged in a way to read "I heart you"
opening a gift at Christmas that reads " A lovely love story" to find yet another expression of his love for me.
I have never been one who cared much for romance. It always appeared too Hollywood and staged. I was always in love with the very idea of being in love, but didn't ever imagine being functional. When you find that person, well, you just know. It's as simple as the others have stated. Their very existence becomes exciting.
I know it isn't great advice and I always thought that people were talking crap in the past, but it does happen and let me tell you that when it does, all of those little things stand out the VERY most.
Coupled with a functional relationship, little displays and thoughtful reminders are incredible.
And finally, searching never did anyone any good. It'll just come.
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Yeah. The good ones would probably do that.
And BTW, you've just insulted my ex-wife, my ex-fiancé, my ex-girlfriend from my early teen years, all my friends, and all my family. Good job.
Honestly, the very fact that they dealt
with you at all, strikes me as a telling
enough blow. Nothing I could say would
add to that.
Did he say he hates women? Or, does he directly imply that he hates women?
If not, you can't rightly call him a misogynist.
His words are pretty indicative of
a generalized bitterness towards
women.
Key word: "bitterness". Ah, I see! So, if you're bitter at someone, that means you wish them dead?
Look, the word hate is personally defined.
There's some standard, but everyone has
their own meaning for it. Wishing dead may
NOT be in someone's meaning. Anyhow, misogyny
is used in much the same manner as racism.
And I would say that being bitter about a particular
race would qualify as the latter. Thus, it should
apply in the former as well.
I'd actually put bitterness BETWEEN your two words, rather than
site it AT either of them. And, hating implies bitterness, I think (not
positive). But again, these things are ill defined.
Yes, but I only hate them, in the general sense
that I hate humanity, life, and existence. Personally,
I've found some quite tasty.
Most mothers here raise and encourage their daughters for getting a 'conformable' husband (=a husband who makes good cash)
It's even by tradition that the husband pay all wedding's cost and housing .
And when the groom meet the parents , the first common questions asked are : "what do you work? and how much income you make'
Daughters are not much better than their parents , I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many I heard girls stating that they seek a wealthy partner ....directly and indirectly .
I remember once when I heard a a girl talking to her girlfriend about my colleague : "oh he's handsome and cute ...*sigh* if only he doesn't come to university by taxi '
LOOOL
another incident at my workplace when a girl was talking me about her ex and how she lost it ....she said later "Oh he is rich ....rich! ...he is a CEO of a transportation company and he still young
LOOOL
...and I heard countless of such things
Getting the wealthy husband has became a 'tradition' among the girls here ....success and money are both a must . Girls here (and even most girls in the world) prefer successful ...i mean let's face it , who like unsuccessful guys? eh? success means money and I think this natural preference exist in all cultures.
Maybe only some rich girls are the exception since they are fed up by wealth ...I know a very poor guy(but good-looking) who's dating one of the richest girls , she even bought him a car for his birthday...but this is the only once exception i witnessed so far .
Sounds like it was here in the 50's. Now, Women are expected to make their own success, go to college, get jobs of their own and make their own money...Work doesn't stop with marriage. In fact, in my sisters marriage she makes more than three times as much as her husband.
What a man can do for me? Make me laugh, especially when I really need it. And I also agree with what gwenevyn (I believe it was her) said. If it's the right guy, all he really has to do is exist. If it's not the right guy, and I know it's not....there isn't much he can do to impress me, or change that.
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I agree. It's the little things that men do, and remember, that mean a lot. However, diamonds work well too
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a generalized bitterness towards
women.
Key word: "bitterness". Ah, I see! So, if you're bitter at someone, that means you wish them dead? Well, maybe for you, I dunno... But I personally have quite a gulf between perturbment and hatred.
"Hate" is a word which often means far less than to wish someone dead. Let's look at a Biblical example.
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment... anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
23"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
So we're told to hate our families, but if we're angry with our brother and call him a fool, we're headed for hell. This sounds like a VERY mild hate, certainly nowhere near to wishing our family dead. More like relatively weak or conditional love.
Biblical is exactly what gave me that hate-death connection, where it says anyone who hates his brother without a cause is guilty of murder. Think about it: If you truly HATE someone, their forced ceasing-to-be would give you relief, at least temporarily.
If you hate something, you want it gone. And it doesn't get more gone than death. But address my point, which was that Cal is saying that LPP is a misogynist because he has "bitterness" toward women. Well, assuming that he does have bitterness, that's not enough to be a misogynist -- that just means you're circumstantially upset. It's not wrong to be genuinely upset, obviously.
Yeah. The good ones would probably do that.
And BTW, you've just insulted my ex-wife, my ex-fiancé, my ex-girlfriend from my early teen years, all my friends, and all my family. Good job.
Honestly, the very fact that they dealt
with you at all, strikes me as a telling
enough blow. Nothing I could say would
add to that.
And, of course, you insulted Jesus as well. But that's nothing new for you.
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