Asperger's and submissive in relationship

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20 Jun 2011, 1:59 am

This should be in the "It's really not an NT or an Aspie thing" thread. Submissiveness or dominance isn't an NT or an Aspie thing, it's a personality thing. I tend to be the dominant one in my relationships. Not intentionally, mind you--it just kind of always works out that way.


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20 Jun 2011, 4:40 am

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Perhaps we can learn something from the Germans. Germans are more likely to have a mild form of Aspergers.

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I like how the smallest dude has the biggest instrument.


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20 Jun 2011, 5:07 am

I think that there's a massive difference between being 'submissive' and just having your feelings totally not taken into consideration, being overruled and treated like a piece of dirt.

Submission can be good if it's entered into consensually, with partners that love and care for each other and crucially where the submissive is fully onboard and desires to submit to a dominant partner.

What's different is where someone is in a relationship with a person that just wants to degrade, dominate and control the person, robbing them of all individuality and relationship with friends and family.



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20 Jun 2011, 5:09 am

zen_mistress wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
Perhaps we can learn something from the Germans. Germans are more likely to have a mild form of Aspergers.

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Are you suggesting we learn to play the tuba, accordion or trombone in order to overcome our AS traits? :)


I play the trombone and tuba and it hasn't helped my autisticness. LOL


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20 Jun 2011, 5:58 am

Moog wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
Perhaps we can learn something from the Germans. Germans are more likely to have a mild form of Aspergers.

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I like how the smallest dude has the biggest instrument.

He's trying to overcompensate for hims small size 8O :lol:

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I think that there's a massive difference between being 'submissive' and just having your feelings totally not taken into consideration, being overruled and treated like a piece of dirt.

Submission can be good if it's entered into consensually, with partners that love and care for each other and crucially where the submissive is fully onboard and desires to submit to a dominant partner.

What's different is where someone is in a relationship with a person that just wants to degrade, dominate and control the person, robbing them of all individuality and relationship with friends and family.

That's how I feel to.


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25 Feb 2013, 4:57 pm

(Please excuse my post, it is written in regards to a male aspie - I assume the reverse or same could be applied for a female)

I wanted to offer some insight into this post as it is something I have explored for the past year - not chains and whips sort of stuff, but just being the dominant in the bedroom - IN CONTROL (well, your partner gives you control as the sub - but you get that).

It is amazing for self confidence and feeling sexually superior. You get to focus in on them as if they are your pet project - devising ways to create pleasurable situations for them. You will be able to provide this intensity and focus that they won't get from another man. They feel this sense of being wanted and desired, you get to stay in control - decide how things go and if they are out of line (well that is between you two to decide what happens). The dominant role is actually well suited for an aspie if they look at it logically in terms of its function and purpose.

A true caring, loving D/s relationship is a very healthy form of relationship for an aspie - they can stay in control, they get to play a role that they develop and define, their partner knows what to expect, the aspie knows what his role is, it is egocentric for the aspie yet is actually focused on the subs pleasure, can involve intricate detailed events, emotionally and mentally rewarding, no awkward social cues to deal with, no unknowns, clearly defined cues for more or less, aspie can explore and test the situation without fear of rejection, and it gives an aspie a sense of belonging and fitting in naturally.

It really is a great character to include in your lexicon of social adapters, and it is way more rewarding and involved than vanilla sex.

In a more general sense, an Aspie makes a great dominant in life as well - especially if they can functionally learn and understand how to use their gift. They can be very powerful in most all situations since they don't have the limitations that others do - it's a learning process though. I have found that being more dominant in personality in life has helped my social situations - not so much dominating a conversation but using my dominance to stay in control of the conversation, I hope that makes sense.

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25 Feb 2013, 6:47 pm

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I've been thinking about it and for a relationship to go well wouldn't the person with Asperger's have to be the submissive one in the relationship and need a dominant partner? I mean not to generalise but I think that would work the best way. I mean people with AS would also be naturally somewhat submissive (both male and female). What does everyone think?


I like to be submissive at firsthand then transition to a more balanced or even dominant role. Unfortunately, most women like the opposite trajectory.



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11 Nov 2019, 3:12 pm

AtypicalVegan wrote:
(Please excuse my post, it is written in regards to a male aspie - I assume the reverse or same could be applied for a female)

I wanted to offer some insight into this post as it is something I have explored for the past year - not chains and whips sort of stuff, but just being the dominant in the bedroom - IN CONTROL (well, your partner gives you control as the sub - but you get that).

It is amazing for self confidence and feeling sexually superior. You get to focus in on them as if they are your pet project - devising ways to create pleasurable situations for them. You will be able to provide this intensity and focus that they won't get from another man. They feel this sense of being wanted and desired, you get to stay in control - decide how things go and if they are out of line (well that is between you two to decide what happens). The dominant role is actually well suited for an aspie if they look at it logically in terms of its function and purpose.

A true caring, loving D/s relationship is a very healthy form of relationship for an aspie - they can stay in control, they get to play a role that they develop and define, their partner knows what to expect, the aspie knows what his role is, it is egocentric for the aspie yet is actually focused on the subs pleasure, can involve intricate detailed events, emotionally and mentally rewarding, no awkward social cues to deal with, no unknowns, clearly defined cues for more or less, aspie can explore and test the situation without fear of rejection, and it gives an aspie a sense of belonging and fitting in naturally.

It really is a great character to include in your lexicon of social adapters, and it is way more rewarding and involved than vanilla sex.

In a more general sense, an Aspie makes a great dominant in life as well - especially if they can functionally learn and understand how to use their gift. They can be very powerful in most all situations since they don't have the limitations that others do - it's a learning process though. I have found that being more dominant in personality in life has helped my social situations - not so much dominating a conversation but using my dominance to stay in control of the conversation, I hope that makes sense.

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You made some very interesting points.

I haven't entered a serious relationship yet, but when I do, I want to enter a relationship with a dominant girl where I would be submissive. It would be easier to focus on the needs and wants of one person, and much easier if they knew that instead of using body cues and social language, they could just tell me what to do, when to do it, and I'd do it to the best of my ability.

Of course, I value the importance of trust, consent, keeping in touch with friends and family, and being prepared in case something goes wrong, but my dream job at the moment is basically to be a personal servant to my future girlfriend. I think that such a relationship would be very fulfilling for me, but I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know for sure.

However, what you said also resonates with me.

Hypothesis: I think that because a D/s relationship requires the participants to be explicit about how they feel (commands and safewords, for instance), both being dominant and being submissive may appeal more to autistic people than an egalitarian relationship, which uses social cues and body language more often.



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12 Nov 2019, 7:20 pm

kid020 wrote:
I've been thinking about it and for a relationship to go well wouldn't the person with Asperger's have to be the submissive one in the relationship and need a dominant partner? I mean not to generalise but I think that would work the best way. I mean people with AS would also be naturally somewhat submissive (both male and female). What does everyone think?

Once you give up the idea that the other person knows what is going on and realize that you can lead you would fall for that submissive nonsense.



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12 Nov 2019, 8:16 pm

I am soooo not submissive. I can be pretty overbearing, stubborn, inflexible, critical, and cold. I hate it when a partner tries to impose their will on me. I'm out.
I am, however, always willing to listen to reason and discuss things rationally to come to a solution.

If we're talking about strictly Dom/sub stuff, I am more dominant. But I don't desire this dynamic outside of the bedroom. I need someone who also wants to take charge, otherwise I'll get resentful that I'm doing everything.


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17 Nov 2019, 2:23 am

No, my boyfriend and I are both autistic, and we're both equals in the relationship. None of us are submissive.



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13 Dec 2019, 6:54 am

another reminder of certain gender roles I despise