Who_Am_I wrote:
Nutterbug wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Based on what I've seen, I like the AS ones better. Social niceties and "charm" can go to hell. (It's kind of hard to be taken in by charm when you have an impairment in reading body language and understanding social situations...)
I would imagine that an NT would have more of the "charm" and social vibe that can penetrate your barrier and be felt even faintly than another Aspie would.
Your imaginings are not correct. I've met "charming" guys, and they do nothing but irritate me. NT body language does NOT penetrate my barrier, it comes across as just so much meaninglessness. I see "social vibes" about as well as I see ultraviolet light, they may as well not exist.
Why is it, that in so many cases, when you tell an AS guy that they are worth something, and even preferable to an NT guy, they refuse to believe you?
I've had this problem with my boyfriend right from the start. He's low-scale but in such a way that he's NT in some ways whilst definitely and prevalently AS in others. It's taken me 10 whole months of seeing him 3 times per week at least (which constitutes more than 10 mths in real terms) to finally convince him that he's "worthy" of me. Other than actually stating that he wasn't worthy, other comments were along the lines of 'Why are you interested in ME?' and 'No, I'm not' whenever I told him he was a truly lovely man.
What put paid to that, in the end, was this statement: "What you do or don't think of yourself has absolutely no bearing on our relationship nor its quality and potential long-term success; in fact, it means diddly-squat. Unless you think you are having a relationship with yourself, it's MY opinion and ONLY my opinion that matters! Furthermore, I can never know you or anyone else on this planet in real terms, I will always be conducting a relationship with merely my perception of whom/what you are...and my perception is that you are an intrinsically, truly lovely man (so shut the eff up!)' He couldn't argue with that one (or possibly didn't dare?

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I don't, however, believe that he was intrinsically low self-esteemed. I think the real problem was that, not historically having been very forthright in terms of eliciting or soliciting feedback from others re their impressions of him, due to shyness, he then became hooked on my regular, highly positive feedback...and what better way of encouraging its continuance than to 'argue' the point with me each and every time??? After all - if he had REALLY believed himself unworthy, he wouldn't have agreed to date me in the first place....n'est pas? xoxo