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I see this as the Michael Savage response... "Just get over it, loser!" Usually said by people who have no idea what kind of problems the individual has to face, nor care. It's the conservative philosophy... "If I keep denying that a problem exists, and call everyone who has it 'whiners,' then they'll just go away." Sorry, not going to happen.

this thread should be closed after Kilroy's last post.

It is a harsh way of saying something that needs to be heard - without effort, without putting ourselves in a zone of discomfort, without taking risks... there is little opportunity for rewards. The cliches used in the thread aren't anything I would choose, but they move towards a point - nothing ventured, nothing gained. We cannot sit back and expect life to come to us... for the second time today, Woody is gonna get quoted - 90% of life is just showing up. Asking someone to do so once a month does not seem absurd to me. I don't like the tone used or the word choice, but I can acknowledge a degree of truth in their words.

CL: I don't see why the thread should be closed due to that; would you explain, perhaps in PM?


M.

M: It's nothing serious, I just meant that Kilroy comment was spot-on, and further arguing was kind of useless.
Hope I explained myself (:

Totally! Thanks for the clarification.


M.

Tough s**t, because I'm not finished. Just because it's so friggin' easy for you doesn't mean that it's easy for everyone else. This isn't a question of "bravery."

You send soldiers into battle without proper equipment or strategy, it doesn't matter how brave and macho they are, they WILL die.

Cyb, what's the deal? No one is closing up shop here.

It isn't easy... the 'bravery' comes in the fact of continuing to do it in the face of repeated rejection. Even the strongest of souls will wear under constant dismissal. The core of it comes from practice, experience, endurance, and examination. To use a hated sports analogy, you can't play from the sidelines. It takes risk, it takes effort, it takes a lot, even in the best of circumstances, to keep putting yourself out there.


M.

I am willing to go outside my comfort zone, and have done so before, but I will NEVER succeed without a better strategy. So insulting my masculinity is pointless.

I haven't insulted your masculinity; if there has been affront by others, I am sorry but please do not direct it at me. What is your strategy at present, then?


M.

There's a spanish saying "Siempre hay un roto para un descosido", which loosely translates as:
For every rip, there is a torn
(torn as in unstitched)

which means
For every man, there is a woman (:

I was wondering, are part of the 12 rejections and some of them are succesful dates or is it 12 rejections or is it 12 succesful dates or is it 12 at the same time? and why 12?

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it look like I was directing most of it at you. Anyway, my current (albeit undeveloped) strategy is to follow Woody's advice... putting myself out there more often. Lately I've been doing this, but it isn't enough. When it comes to actually finding single women who'd be compatible with me, I don't even know where to start looking. This is part of the reason why I started the "Finding Non-Superficial Women" thread. I can't "just go out and do it" until I know WTF I'm "doing." It also doesn't help that I have nothing in common with most of the people where I live (hopefully I'll be moving in the not-too-distant future.)

As they say in retail... location, location, location.

If I am not being too intrusive, do you have female friends? My best learning experience (albeit at a younger age) was that most of my friends growing up were female... that at least gave me some understanding, and I still turn to some of them when I get confused. Having an agenda when meeting people can be risky, even if it is non-superficial, because (as I have learned and been told) people get a sense that you're studying them, analyzing them, and they get uncomfortable. While becoming friends first -can- be a limiter on relationships, I find that given time it is often how the connection is made, and over time it is more successful for me. What are you finding incompatible? And where are you going at present to meet people?


M.

thank you
its the truth
I mean even if its just a friendship

example-last semester I would talk to a lot of the girls in my class, now I am not much of a talker-so I listened
I got rides home a few times, even though they had boyfriends-it was still a learning experience
I am a good listener
and I felt more confident around women, its all about exposure
like I want to be a locksmith-now that won't ever happen if I sit here complaining how I don't know how to repin a lock-no I gotta go out there and learn-get the lock-open it up
sure I'll fail the first few times but eventually I'll get the right idea
its kind of like that with people, eventually you'll see your strengths and weaknesses and know where you stand and can work from-but sitting here whining how you get nowhere when you do nothing...
well there's your problem
of course its hard-that's what life is, a challenge-or it wouldn't be life
life is easy for no one, and making others believe that "NT's" have it so easy is a total lie
they are people too. just like everyone here
I know its not nice to hear grow some balls-but its the damned honest truth
you need to get out there, not sit at a computer
because at the end of the day, its not me who suffers
you can say and think what you want about me, my life isn't perfect, but I got out there and I give it my best shot and I am happy with how things are going

look at yourself and ask yourself-can you say the same thing?

well yeah, but it is not as simple as that, for a few it would be simpler and for others it wouldn't be enough to just "grow some balls", but I see that Alex probably meant that only for those who keep whining about it only, it seems, so they would shut up and not exactly for the ones who don't. However, saying things in that tone certainly would not do any help to them in this way, it doesn't seem that anything could be accomplished by it.

I am still wondering about the number 12