Why not to go after an aspie girl

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26 May 2009, 9:59 pm

As for the statistics, WP only represents a very small portion of the AS community.



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27 May 2009, 2:23 am

CelticGoddess wrote:
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Some of us aspie girls can be crazy :P

I don't speak for all but I think you're all crazy if you're just going after Aspie chicks.


Agreed.

I speak for myself when I say the success rate of hitting on me is about 0%. I have a weird warped mindset when it comes to relationships, which is partly why the topic of Love and Dating fascinates me so much, and the only time I ever seem to open my mind to the possibility is if I have the complete control (like I meet the guy, I choose the guy, I pursue the guy, then the guy accepts me). I quite like being single too - it's more restful.

You probably have a much better chance with NT girls simply because they actually want to be in relationships, and are more open-minded and forgiving and less set in weird rituals and mind-blocks.


I have found though that where that changes is if you've met the right individual. You can be really set in your ways when you're around someone who doesn't understand those ways, and seems to interfere. When you meet the person who compliments your quirks, and understands why you do what you do, and allows you to just be yourself, then it's completely different. All of a sudden you have a level of comfort you never knew existed. It's such a shocking discovery that it takes awhile to adjust to the idea that it was even possible to begin with.


Wow that would be really nice. I hope that happens to me eventually. Often I feel like there's something seriously wrong with me, because all these guys hit on me and I'm never attracted (romantically, I mean I really like most of them in a friendly way) to them - and I feel I should be. I feel like there's this subtle pressure from people around me to just hurry up and pick one of them, but I could never date someone I wasn't romantically attracted to; it would be like trying to date a brother or sister.

I would be thinking I was asexual if I hadn't already fallen deeply in love before in my life. It's just been over a year since I've been romantically attracted to anyone. Sorry to go off topic.


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27 May 2009, 4:56 pm

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I would but the male aspie gene is stronger than the female, infact i havent met a single aspie girl in my whole life


Neither have I, I would like to meet an aspie girl though.



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27 May 2009, 5:45 pm

robbokris wrote:
dalekaspie wrote:
I would but the male aspie gene is stronger than the female, infact i havent met a single aspie girl in my whole life


Neither have I, I would like to meet an aspie girl though.

that you know of :wink:



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27 May 2009, 6:52 pm

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I know what you mean, ToS, a tactic that seems to help is to do little or nothing for women you don't know well - for example, I've seen girls carting gas cylinders around (heavy) and barely offered to hold the door for them (and not offered to help with the cylinder itself). Actually, I could even have given her some advice that would've saved her a lot of effort (she was using the wrong type of cart), but didn't. Mean perhaps, but then she seemed to expect that I would do it for her even when it was her turn, in exchange for nothing*. If you behave like that, you at least send out the message that you're not easily taken advantage of, you set boundaries.

*My rule is that, as long as I'm not worse to them than they are to me, I can do as I please. For example, refusing to give help, however trivial to me and useful to them, to people that have tried taking advantage of
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Mean? That sounds like cruel and unusal to me... not to mention narcissist...

I tried doing the whole jerk thing once in high school, and all it got me was alienation of some of the few friends I had and a bunch of women asking me why I was being such a jerk and wanting me to go back to being nice... it didn't make anyone respect me...

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Simple statistics: There are more oddball/outlier NT girls out there than there are AS girls.

The oddball/outlier NT girls just have oddball/outlier social requirements. Even in the case of something like a gamer girl, I would still be dragged to lan parties. While I could at least enjoy the gaming aspect of it, it's still socialization with a bunch of strange people that I don't know... Whereas a genuine aspie woman wouldn't have any of that...

On top of that, an oddball NT woman is still just as manipulative and deceptive as a more "average" NT woman...



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27 May 2009, 7:32 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
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I know what you mean, ToS, a tactic that seems to help is to do little or nothing for women you don't know well - for example, I've seen girls carting gas cylinders around (heavy) and barely offered to hold the door for them (and not offered to help with the cylinder itself). Actually, I could even have given her some advice that would've saved her a lot of effort (she was using the wrong type of cart), but didn't. Mean perhaps, but then she seemed to expect that I would do it for her even when it was her turn, in exchange for nothing*. If you behave like that, you at least send out the message that you're not easily taken advantage of, you set boundaries.

*My rule is that, as long as I'm not worse to them than they are to me, I can do as I please. For example, refusing to give help, however trivial to me and useful to them, to people that have tried taking advantage of me.


Mean? That sounds like cruel and unusal to me... not to mention narcissist...

I tried doing the whole jerk thing once in high school, and all it got me was alienation of some of the few friends I had and a bunch of women asking me why I was being such a jerk and wanting me to go back to being nice... it didn't make anyone respect me...


To clarify, I did this after she showed she expected me to do her chores for her, such as changing the gas cylinders. Had she been someone who had been nice to me, let alone a friend, I would have offered to help her with the cylinder, and would have told even a stranger about the cart. But, since she appeared to expect me to be her doormat, I declined the position; because she tried to make me her lackey, I will not spontaneously give her even the most trivial help, which I don't think is unfair. Among my using, two-faced, backstabbing colleagues (with a few exceptions), to be respected at all you are either very charismatic, in a position of power so they have to suck up to you, or you set boundaries forcefully. That leaves the third option for me.

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Simple statistics: There are more oddball/outlier NT girls out there than there are AS girls.

The oddball/outlier NT girls just have oddball/outlier social requirements. Even in the case of something like a gamer girl, I would still be dragged to lan parties. While I could at least enjoy the gaming aspect of it, it's still socialization with a bunch of strange people that I don't know... Whereas a genuine aspie woman wouldn't have any of that...

On top of that, an oddball NT woman is still just as manipulative and deceptive as a more "average" NT woman...


I meant more as in outlier character than outlier interests. An outlier social requirement could be requiring less socialising from you, or being more tolerant of your quirks. I know an NT girl, for example, whose boyfriend does not socialise with anyone apart from her and his dad. NTs do vary in how socially inclined they are, and in what way. Not everyone is equally manipulative, and there's no a priori reason why an aspie girl wouldn't be (just would have less natural talent for it).


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27 May 2009, 7:35 pm

I'd be a woman's doormant, slave, clean up her house, do everything for her, I'd be the "Nice Guy" ...if she let me play with her feet, soles, and toes everyday and suck on them



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27 May 2009, 8:17 pm

If anyone's only basing aspie women from this forum, I highly doubt it's very accurate. In fact I think many of them like myself are usually undiagnosed or diagnosed for other things. There's still some myths among the superstitious peasant folk that aspergers is only found in males /:

So you might meet an NT woman who's quirky and a bit socially akward who may actually be on the spectrum. I think it's just common misconception and expected that women with ASD traits are just shy and being polite when their not out like their female NT counterparts in the dating scene.

As far as females on WP that're single only because they're not seeking a relationship is not all together accurate. This forum isn't exactly what I'd call a very female friendly place unless one was only looking for a partner online.


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27 May 2009, 8:32 pm

^^I would have to agree there.



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27 May 2009, 8:35 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
^^I would have to agree there.
lol another aspie girl just ignored one of my pms.....but i aint trippin'



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27 May 2009, 9:41 pm

pbcoll wrote:
To clarify, I did this after she showed she expected me to do her chores for her, such as changing the gas cylinders. Had she been someone who had been nice to me, let alone a friend, I would have offered to help her with the cylinder, and would have told even a stranger about the cart. But, since she appeared to expect me to be her doormat, I declined the position; because she tried to make me her lackey, I will not spontaneously give her even the most trivial help, which I don't think is unfair. Among my using, two-faced, backstabbing colleagues (with a few exceptions), to be respected at all you are either very charismatic, in a position of power so they have to suck up to you, or you set boundaries forcefully. That leaves the third option for me.
Okay, that makes sense now... I thought you were just doing this to some random woman... I try to give the benefit of the doubt in any circumstance, but if she acts like that, then she loses that benefit..

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I meant more as in outlier character than outlier interests. An outlier social requirement could be requiring less socialising from you, or being more tolerant of your quirks. I know an NT girl, for example, whose boyfriend does not socialise with anyone apart from her and his dad.

It's not so much who I talk to, it's whether or not I'll be dragged to parties or not... I am definitively not a party guy... they're too chaotic for me to derive, well, anything from the experience... And I don't necessarily mean the standard definition of party either... "parties" can even mean some office dinner outing... to me, social activities need to have structure to them, or else that whole social pecking order BS takes over and I'm completely lost... at least with structured activities, I can concentrate on the task at hand...

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NTs do vary in how socially inclined they are, and in what way. Not everyone is equally manipulative, and there's no a priori reason why an aspie girl wouldn't be (just would have less natural talent for it).

I know a few AS women at my church (outside of my age range though), and none of them has ever even tried to manipulate me... compared to pretty much all the women (to some extent, anyway) where I went to high school... can't say about college because I go to a college with very few women in general...



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31 May 2009, 1:03 am

I would like to at least once in my life, preferably within the next few years or so, find a female friend, open to physical intimacy, with whom I don't have to pretend to be "normal". Preferably from the time we first meet. In other words, someone with whom I can be completely open with about myself, what I like, etc. Someone who does not conform to cultural "blueprints" of what sexuality should be like and what type of emotions the people should be feeling.

Assuming I find a person like that, whether or not she has AS (diagnosed or not) is immaterial. Of the people I have seen online who seem to have such a free attitude toward relationship models, I certainly wouldn't say that all seem to have AS. But I'm sure most of them are atypical in how they relate to others.



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31 May 2009, 1:06 am

Because women suck and they all think alike. They're only a vessel for pleasure.

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31 May 2009, 3:24 am

I agree with those who say that aspie girls aren't exactly the ticket like many AS men seem to think. For one thing, they're still girls, and therefore have all the same pathologies that come with that. Second, becuase it's easier for female aspies to "pass" for normal (and especally if they're pretty), then they often chase the same desires as regular women and may see an aspie male as settling.

I find intellectual girls in general are a best bet, not necessarily those on the spectrum.



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31 May 2009, 3:41 am

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I agree with those who say that aspie girls aren't exactly the ticket like many AS men seem to think. For one thing, they're still girls, and therefore have all the same pathologies that come with that.


Because all females are exactly the same. :roll:


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31 May 2009, 4:09 am

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then they often chase the same desires as regular women and may see an aspie male as settling.


What is *with* the stereotype that all women are after rich a**hole guys? I swear, I have never in real life met a female who was specifically trying to find a guy with money. All the girls *I* know are trying to find guys they can relate to, guys they feel they have a connection with.

And isn't it the same thing with what guys want in a girl?

People on this forum really need to learn to stop stereotyping.

P.S. I'm an aspie girl, and I can be extremely outgoing at times when I feel like it; I love socializing and meeting strangers (as well as loving solitary activities and quiet time). How's that for breaching the stereotype?


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