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17 May 2009, 10:05 pm

I had to look up my moon sign. I cracked up. I call BS on all astrology, yet both the descriptions of my sign fit to an utterly ridiculous T. Even funnier is I'm the only one who really fits that well (a couple other people I've known were pretty close, most are way off), and I think that shows that they're more specific than totally vague.

Also, my Chinese zodiac fits.

I have to admit, there's an amount of fun to it all. I've noticed that I'm also attracted more often to Libras (my own), Virgos (my mom was one), Aries (my dad -- also my moon sign), Gemini and everyone loves Aquarius. Narrowing that down even more, it's Libra, Virgo and Gemini. Have no idea what Libras are supposed to fit with, so har har har, whatever.

The symbolism is cool, anyway.

I'd love to get tested. Ask me anything about my signs and I'll probably say I fit. Ask me anything about some other sign, we'll see. That sounds like FUN.



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18 May 2009, 3:16 am

anna banana, you didn't mention the rising sign which is importent aswell pehaps over 100 diffrent aspects.

also my INTJ fits me but I link it to astrology


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18 May 2009, 11:57 am

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anna banana, you didn't mention the rising sign which is importent aswell pehaps over 100 diffrent aspects.


I only pasted descriptive parts, also the ones from the "rising sign" part. find some better excuse for this stuff not working :wink:

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also my INTJ fits me but I link it to astrology


sure. why not. your DNA surely has nothing to do with your personality :roll:

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Isn't this being close-minded? :wink:


if you close your mind to the truth so much that you can't acknowledge simple facts then calling yourself open-minded can only be considered satire.


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18 May 2009, 2:40 pm

Aquarius here with a moon in Picses and Scorpio is in my first house. :wink:


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18 May 2009, 10:44 pm

anna-banana wrote:
SilverStar wrote:
Isn't this being close-minded? :wink:


if you close your mind to the truth so much that you can't acknowledge simple facts then calling yourself open-minded can only be considered satire.


I don't close my mind to the truth. I would actually consider myself a realist. Just because I am a realist, doesn't mean that I'm not open to trying out new things. So, no matter if Astrology is total BS or not, that doesn't mean it's not fun or interesting.

But, I guess you wouldn't think it's fun and interesting, because you are so bitter, cynical, and close-minded. Why are you even posting in this thread again? Anyways, I'm not gonna reply in here again, because I'm sure you will have some sort of comeback that reassures you that you know everything already.

Like a wise man once told me...don't feed the trolls... :shameonyou:



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19 May 2009, 1:24 pm

SilverStar wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
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Isn't this being close-minded? :wink:


if you close your mind to the truth so much that you can't acknowledge simple facts then calling yourself open-minded can only be considered satire.


I don't close my mind to the truth. I would actually consider myself a realist. Just because I am a realist, doesn't mean that I'm not open to trying out new things. So, no matter if Astrology is total BS or not, that doesn't mean it's not fun or interesting.

But, I guess you wouldn't think it's fun and interesting, because you are so bitter, cynical, and close-minded. Why are you even posting in this thread again? Anyways, I'm not gonna reply in here again, because I'm sure you will have some sort of comeback that reassures you that you know everything already.

Like a wise man once told me...don't feed the trolls... :shameonyou:


it's sad that all you have is petty personal attacs. you're only exposing the weakness of your argument to those on the forum.

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19 May 2009, 2:11 pm

I didn't think there was an argument for astrology going on here, but I guess I haven't read deep enough. It is just fun. I've actually been delving into it the tiniest bit lately and it's tons of fun when it matches up. Science? f**k no. Fun? f**k yes. It's also imaginative.

That said, I do find it very annoying when people start labeling and categorizing each other based on their signs--in fact, that'll infuriate me in a heartbeat. It seems destructive somehow.



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19 May 2009, 2:18 pm

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I didn't think there was an argument for astrology going on here, but I guess I haven't read deep enough. It is just fun. I've actually been delving into it the tiniest bit lately and it's tons of fun when it matches up. Science? f**k no. Fun? f**k yes. It's also imaginative.


one man's boring is another man's fun :wink: I like to know how things work. if I take something apart and find that it can not possibly logically work, than I dismiss it. I don't understand the fun of believing in everything, especially if the details/rules of it have no basis that one can explore.

and frankly, accusing people who try to rationally explain things unimaginative and close-minded is getting boring. I don't think Einstein would've gotten anywhere if he was unimaginative and close-minded (not that I compare myself to E, but I also have a scientific mind and outlook on life). anyone could make up a fairy tale and call everyone who doesn't blindly believe it unimaginative and close-minded. it is insulting and simply not true, just another Chewbacca Defense technique that has nothing to do with any argument, ever.

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That said, I do find it very annoying when people start labeling and categorizing each other based on their signs--in fact, that'll infuriate me in a heartbeat. It seems destructive somehow.


exactly. a good friend of mine used to do that which annoyed me so much that I decided to "crusade" against it :p I see astrology as yet another way to divide and discriminate against people. it makes me sad that people take it so seriously.


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19 May 2009, 5:41 pm

anna-banana wrote:
Orbyss wrote:
I didn't think there was an argument for astrology going on here, but I guess I haven't read deep enough. It is just fun. I've actually been delving into it the tiniest bit lately and it's tons of fun when it matches up. Science? f**k no. Fun? f**k yes. It's also imaginative.


one man's boring is another man's fun :wink: I like to know how things work. if I take something apart and find that it can not possibly logically work, than I dismiss it. I don't understand the fun of believing in everything, especially if the details/rules of it have no basis that one can explore.

and frankly, accusing people who try to rationally explain things unimaginative and close-minded is getting boring. I don't think Einstein would've gotten anywhere if he was unimaginative and close-minded (not that I compare myself to E, but I also have a scientific mind and outlook on life). anyone could make up a fairy tale and call everyone who doesn't blindly believe it unimaginative and close-minded. it is insulting and simply not true, just another Chewbacca Defense technique that has nothing to do with any argument, ever.


I'm pretty sure this is a matter of difference in brain function. I have both sides, logical and completely illogical, since I'm apparently nuts in my right brain (runs in the family), sections of my left brain have hardly any connections (complex calculation, etc.), but I love analysis. So, every now and then I love to delve into the right temporal spiritual feedback loop -- astrology fits into that. Divination. It gives me positive feedback in what I'd assume is much the same way you get it from analysis. I can relate heavily to that because I get just as much fun out of that. But, as right brain demands, I must also give it the attention it craves.

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Orbyss wrote:
That said, I do find it very annoying when people start labeling and categorizing each other based on their signs--in fact, that'll infuriate me in a heartbeat. It seems destructive somehow.


exactly. a good friend of mine used to do that which annoyed me so much that I decided to "crusade" against it :p I see astrology as yet another way to divide and discriminate against people. it makes me sad that people take it so seriously.


"Ugh, so-and-so is SUCH a taurus, he spends soooo much on restaurants."



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19 May 2009, 9:34 pm

gonna check mine, as well as post the meyers-briggs thing when i get a chance.

as for the arguement thats erupted in this thread, the arguement is just another further way to prove a theory ive been working on to explain why you humans act the way you do. (yeh, said it that way to make a point, as well to infuse my own unique brand of humor into this thread)

the main point illustrated here is differences in oppinion will cause conflict a majority of the time because when people tend to meet up with differing oppinions, just the simple truth of thinking diferently will trigger the whole fight or flight response. Defending your views, and argueing them out, its just an example of the "fight" response, so there, humans are just animals thats it, civility means nothing. :P



well, my stuff just got generated, so as to get back on topic with this thread...

I view astrology as more or less something for entertainment, as well as something to think about, not necessarily believe or follow.


Astrology Info

Well, i can post some detail, but the one person collects charts, so ill put some info up for them...

If you want to read anything, check Astro.com, and most of it, not all fits. Just plug in the info and you should get to a page with what i got.

Sun sign: Virgo
Ascendant Sign: Pisces
Moon Sign: Libra

Date and Time: Sept 12, 1988 @ 7:16 PM
Location Coords: 75w43, 40n50



Meyers-Briggs, or whatever it is called again

I am an ISTP (Introverted, Sensing, Thinking, Perceiving) # distinctively expressed introvert
# slightly expressed sensing personality
# slightly expressed thinking personality
# slightly expressed perceiving personality

pretty much the one name for this result is Crafter/Artisan, so yeh...


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19 May 2009, 10:44 pm

Hilarious stuff.

Do these 'readings' make any mention to the lore behind it? That they believe the where abouts of the sun amongst the constellations is the basis? That the sun travels through 13 constellations, not 12. That when this was all devised way back when they decided to just ignore the 13th to keep it easier to follow and more on track with the months. That these constellations are not all the same size (maybe just look up and you'll notice the stars are pretty random). Of the 12 zodiac signs, the sun travels through them from as short as 10 days to as long as 40.

If you were to actually figure things out legitimately, the days are off by tons, and there is a good chunk each year that the sun is not even in one of the constellations.

So the effects of the sun, and the constellations they are in has an effect on what happens to you when you are born huh? Do you know that a baseball held a foot over your head has more of an effect on you, physically speaking, than the moon? So to mention the effects of an object that is about 90 million miles away and objects 10s and 1,000s of light years away on a birth means you also have to take into effect every single object in the hospital at the time of birth because even a penny in a doctors pants 2 floors away and on the other end of the hospital had a practicaly uncalcuably larger effect on the infant at birth than even the closest star outside our solar system.



Its all fun and games trying to find correlations between things and reasoning/explanations as to why we are the way we are.

You can easily generalize most personality types into 12 groups, even less. So there is a 1 in 12 chance your horoscope will fit your personality. Thats a pretty good bet. You add in the effects of power of suggestion, that it runs in circles of those 1 in 12 people who it happens to fit and you get self-fulfilling mumbo-jumbo.



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19 May 2009, 10:55 pm

and p.s.

Here is the current timeline. I'm looking at some of these online sites that you punch your d.o.b. into and it suppose to give you the accurate reading, but they all dont seem to calculate the 13th constellation, meaning the rest of it is defunk.

Piscese - March 12 to April 18

Aries - April 19 to May 13

Taurus May 14 to June 19

Gemini June 20 to July 20

Cancer July 21 to August 9

Leo August 10 to Sep 15

Virgo Sep 16 to Oct 30

Libra Oct 31 to Nov 22

Scorpius Nov 23 to Nov 29

Ophiuchus Nov 30 to December 17

Sagittarius Dec 18 to Jan 18

Capricornus Jan 19 to Feb 15

Aquarius 16 to Mar 11



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19 May 2009, 11:34 pm

Should also mention that I'm not attacking the theory of ones personality (and I generalize the word personality to cover the bases of what astrology assumes to presume) in relation to the date/time of their birth. I'm attacking the relation between personality and constellations.

The wonderful part of science is the scientific theory. Only in very rare cases does scientific theory become law, as science encourages challenges and changes. We are constantly learning more and breakthroughs are always made, maybe one day we will find a relation between date of birth and what we become. But right now the evidence is entirely one sided against that theory.

So those of you out there who are passionate in the belief your date of birth played a role in your current personality please continue to be. But only in the capacity that you wish to search out what the connection is because its not to do with your zodiac sign, that argument is over. But who knows, you may discover something, dont stop looking and dont stop coming up with new ideas. But please stop supporting what is a scam rooted in the power of suggestion and the gullible nature of the simple minded.



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19 May 2009, 11:58 pm

It is my home page, I read it every day. It is how the planets are aligned every day, not on your birthday.

Skywatch Publications
Wednesday, May 20:
Triple check the details.


Retrograde Mercury will square the king of BS, Jupiter, in the heavens tonight. All day long people will make mistakes, assume something untrue, over/underestimate price and time.

If you get bad news today, get a second opinion. And handle the hard stuff first thing before this square gets powered up.

Simple plans can be fun tonight as the Moon meets sweet Venus in the heavens at 10:23 PM. The Mercury Jupiter square follows at 10:45 PM.

Slow down. Jupiter rules the law.

All times given are U.S. Central time. That's Chicago on the World Clock.

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20 May 2009, 12:07 am

That is the most emberassing thing i've read in a long long time.

Thats the advice offered up?

All day long people will make mistakes, believe lies, and charge/value something over/under its price and be later or early? Really? For f***s sake, I thought no one made mistakes, everyone knew the truth and everyone knows value and everyone is punctual.

If you get bad news talk to someone about it? Wow, I always thought the best thing to do with bad news was to ignore it.

Take care of harder problems first? Really? So you should be sure to solve problems you encounter, brilliant insight.

Simple plans will be fun? Well f**k, there goes my theory that making things ridiculously circuitous is much more fun.


I hope this is just a very very VERY bad example of a horoscope. And I'm the gullible one right now for taking it seriously.



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20 May 2009, 12:13 am

willa wrote:
That is the most emberassing thing i've read in a long long time.

Thats the advice offered up?

All day long people will make mistakes, believe lies, and charge/value something over/under its price and be later or early? Really? For f**** sake, I thought no one made mistakes, everyone knew the truth and everyone knows value and everyone is punctual.

If you get bad news talk to someone about it? Wow, I always thought the best thing to do with bad news was to ignore it.

Take care of harder problems first? Really? So you should be sure to solve problems you encounter, brilliant insight.

Simple plans will be fun? Well f**k, there goes my theory that making things ridiculously circuitous is much more fun.


I hope this is just a very very VERY bad example of a horoscope. And I'm the gullible one right now for taking it seriously.


you do know you are just talking to yourself, don't you? When someone comes into a thread and just distroys the topic you don't think people do the honor of reading your comments, do you?

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