BurningMoose wrote:
I'm seeing a lot of women here saying "seduction wouldn't work on me because I wouldn't realize the guy was trying to seduce me." Ladies, you would NEVER realize a player was seducing you--that's kind of the point. You would be thinking, "wow, this guy is funny, exciting, and there's just SOMETHING ABOUT HIM--I don't know what exactly--that makes me want to get to know him better." The word "seduction" or the phrase "he's hitting on me" would NEVER enter your mind (if he was doing it correctly). As far as "whether seduction stuff works" for aspies, the answer is : some of it will, some of it won't. There are literally hundreds of systems available, some of which focus on the creepy (I think) "cold" pickup, which is when a guy dresses like a flaming idiot and runs lines and routines on women to get them into bed (this only works with drunk and/or promiscuous women--but it DOES work with them!). These guys spend years memorizing material directly out of other peoples' books, and is showcased on the VH1 show "the Pickup Artist." THESE are the ones who can and do turn into "social robots" who eventually lose the ability to make real friends, male or female.
As a member of the Community, I can tell you that there ARE systems and guidebooks out there that have much more to do with cultivating attractive qualities in yourself to maximize your chances which absolutely can help men with AS. There are books for shy, kind people that do not require you to buy the clothes of a poor rockstar /drag queen, do not require you to memorize lines, and can teach you how to feel better about who you really are and display your positive qualities--nothing like the false confidence that comes from picking up women with a bunch of memorized scripts. I've read / experimented with a lot of stuff, and for those guys who want to increase their chances without turning into woman-destroying creeps like Mystery's followers, I would recommend the following books above all else:
Double your Dating, by David DeAngelo
Juggler Method, by Juggler (Wayne Elise)
Without Fear: The Social Coward's Totally Fearless Guide to Seduction, by Mike Pilinski.
The last one in particular, Without Fear, is PERFECT for men who do not wish to go out and sleep with random whores every weekend, but are simply looking to develop the qualities which make him a High Status Male--thereby making him attractive to women. It's more about kindness and gentleness than "not taking sh** from people," trying to look like a badass, or any of that other phony stuff. Best of all, there is no need for clubs or bars to utilize Mike P's teachings--it's simply about how to recognize what women do when they're interested, how to respond in order to show you're interested back, and take it from there. Cold Pickup and Mystery Method are about pretending you don't like a women in order to keep her "hooked." It's great for drunken women with daddy issues and no self-esteem. Without Fear and Double Your Dating are more about relationships with high self-esteem, intelligent, and self-aware females...you know, the kind you actually want in your life in the first place!
Coincedentally i''ve just started reading Without Fear, a freind found it through a recommendation on a love shyness site or sumthing by chance and was really impressed by it. I'm barely a quartar of the way into it but it alrady seems like an incredibly valuable resource for developing relationship skills. Burning Moose sums up the content in a nutshell.