I don't like to party/dance/drink. Where do I find women?

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27 May 2009, 4:40 pm

Bataar wrote:
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As far as the grocery store goes, I'd prett much have to get contact info the first time as the odds of seeing them again are very slim, so if you have any more suggestions, I'd be happy to have them.


Well, I think to start with just try striking up friendly conversations with other people at the store. Don't force anything, just if the situation seems appropriate. When you feel more confident with that, maybe try with women who you find attractive as well.

I must admit, I met one of my good friends because he was busking and I walked past (we were complete strangers) and I struck up a friendly conversation with him. We chatted a good long while and ended up swapping emails. Then I came by again the next week where he was, and we chatted again, then he decided to take a break and we thought we'd go for a walk down to the supermarket to pick up some lunch food.

That's sort of how it works. If you don't feel the person would ever come back, then maybe try to get into a decently long conversation with them, and if you're getting along well at the end of the conversation (just before you both depart) suggest swapping emails. As long as you keep it friendly, and casual, you won't scare the other person off and they'll generally be open to getting to know you better.

Conversation is the killer for me. In general, unless there's something relevant or interesting to discuss, I don't talk. So, as I'm pushing my cart down an aisle and a woman is pushing her cart toward me, in that short time period, I probably won't think of anything interesting to talk about. Sure, I can say something generic like, "Hi, how's it going?" and she'll reply with some generic response as she passes, but I would have no idea how to proceed.


Hmm, that's the challenge. Conversation is an art form, and it does take practice. It will really increase your odds of finding a partner, or making friends, if you learn how to kick-start conversations. Pretty much the idea is to start with a general comment (like the one you said in your post), but leave an opening for the conversation to continue ("Hi, how's it going?" cuts the conversation dead before it has begun - a better one would be "Hi, the meat prices are low today hey?" or something that is relevant to where you both are and what you're doing), and then from there you narrow it down to something relevent and interesting. But to open, you have to start general in order to establish that initial connection (like plugging your computer into the power socket - it's boring, but it has to be done), then after that you can talk about more interesting stuff (like programming on your computer once it's up and running) if that makes sense.

The only way really is to practice your conversation whenever you get the chance, and you can also read books on interpersonal communication if you want further info. Personally, my biggest weakness has always been reading body language, so I read a book on body language and it helped me immensely.


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27 May 2009, 7:35 pm

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The only way really is to practice your conversation whenever you get the chance, and you can also read books on interpersonal communication if you want further info. Personally, my biggest weakness has always been reading body language, so I read a book on body language and it helped me immensely.



what's the name of the book



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27 May 2009, 9:43 pm

I found this while poking around the web for some conversation tidbits:

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You don't need to be extroverted to be a great conversationalist; you need to care about other people. You need to trust that you will find other people interesting because you are a curious, engaged person. The good news for introverts is that this means working a room doesn't require comfort with crowds as much as it requires comfort with yourself.


This is where it gets hard for me and I have to get phony. In all honestly, until I get to know someone, I don't generally care about them. Don't take that to mean that I want them all to die or I want bad things to happen, I'm just not interested. The few acquaintances I do have, I made over a long period of time. A new guy comes to our game group. I probably won't talk to him directly but I observe how he reacts, his level of interest, comments he makes, etc. The next month, if he comes again, I'm a little more aware of what he's like so I might make some game related talk. Depending on his responses, I may, or may not be interested in him anymore. If I am, I'll ask questions like where he works, if he watches the same TV shows I do, etc. And that develops over months (game night is only once a month after all) and finally, once I know the guy, I'll invite him to go see a new movie, or include him with the other people I invite to my BBQs, or whatever. The key is having an interesting context to observe the person in. This is something that is sorely lacking when it comes to meeting women.



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28 May 2009, 1:02 am

Mw99 wrote:
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The only way really is to practice your conversation whenever you get the chance, and you can also read books on interpersonal communication if you want further info. Personally, my biggest weakness has always been reading body language, so I read a book on body language and it helped me immensely.



what's the name of the book


http://www.bookworm.com.au/Book/The-Def ... 16070.aspx

That's the one. I borrowed it from a friend, and found it was really really good - it also was just a really good read, I picked it up and couldn't put it down, really interesting. It has diagrams and drawings and everything, and starts off with simple gestures, moving to different combinations of gestures.


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28 May 2009, 9:30 am

heh yeh, ive had this problem, especially since i live out in the middle of nowhere. (if In PA, places of interest tend to be very far apart unless you are in one of the cities. The bars in the towns/towns around me tend to be more of the old classic tavern feel, or biker bars.)


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