If you're 27 and never had a girlfriend, is it too late?

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well go 2 years younger and its illegal, creepy, craddle robbing etc. I don't get why one day they its that, then they turn 18 the next day and its all ok. if the age gap was bad then why wouldn't it be bad the day after. reality is they didn't change much over a night 17 year olds are same when they are 18. so I worry about being called creepy or those things. and the chance shes just lying and wont' turn 18 for a few months.

besides those society viewing of things.
19 year olds don't tend to be as mature as me. yes I know its hardI want a mature woman but also playful woman. I don't like the way 19 year olds often see the world as all for them me, me, me etc. I don't want to be a passing interest until the next guy. I want to be their special someone. I know not all are that way , but many are. I've always been more mature, when I was 16-19 I didn't really feel I could relate to many people my age.

yet these tend to be the women who show interest in me, age wise, I don't get it. I see many 19-24 year olds have a age limit of 2-3 years older and no older. women 25 and up though tend to be too serious. so perhaps I might end up dating younger one. the lady my sister knows is 23-24. the one who I spent a week with was 22, he friend was 20, the others were 19, 20, and 21.

I was 25-26 when I dated them. so not as large a gap as 19 vs the 27-28 I am now.

wouldn't people find that creepy a 28 year old dating a 19 year old? won't their family hate me and see me as a disgusting cradle robber?

Only if you have sex. Dating / flirting with somebody that young might be seen as creepy, but it isn't illegal.

But what if you don't go 2 years younger? The age range you mentioned is when young women reach peak attractiveness.I don't get it either. You're right that one day makes no difference and that 17 year olds can look identical to 18 year olds. What I don't get is that they expect celibacy from 17 year old boys and girls at an age when they can feel sexual attraction, when they can have sex, when they can be mothers and fathers and when all the NTs have already started having sex one or two years earlier. So who came up with this idea that they have to remain celibate for several years after they have both the desire and capability to have sex?Would you settle for just playful? You did say you wanted to have a cute relationship for a few years before you have kids? A 19 year old could act cute and playful and not say she needs to have kids this instant because her biological clock is at two minutes to midnight. And some girls that age are OK with long term commitment. I know a guy who married when he was 19. The girl was 18. Now they're both in the 20s.Lucky you. For some reason the women who most often show interest in my are in their mid to late 20s. Some of them were even in their 30s You spent a whole week with her and met her friends? That's better than most of my dates go. If only you two had stuck with it.No. No.

It's normal. Often girls are attracted to guys who are 5 to 10 years older than them. As for her family, there may be a 5 to 10 year age gap between her parents.It probably still is illegal.

But if she's 18 Sly can do anything with her. Even if he's 28. Even if he's 98.

If a girl is 18, it's not illegal to have consensual sex with her in any state of the US.

I don't find a relationship between an 18 and even a person in/her 30s creepy. I would date somebody 20 years younger than me.

I meant keeping the same age gap but going back. its odd to me a say 18 with 16 year old is bad, but an 20 year old witha 18 year old is good. its the same age gap. the rfirst they would say is cradle robbing yet the latter is ok o.O
I don't get the logic. kids can join the military at 16 with parent permission but can't have sex til 18 , can't vote either, and can't drink til 21. these age rules seem illogical and probably based on christian moral beliefs rather then logic.

I would think 15 would be and have some standard age gap rule that would apply to all ages.
then maybe less teenagers would become felons for having consented sex with their gf/bf.

I don't judge women by attractiveness. peak attractive ness doens't matter or make sense to me. women are pretty at most ages.

no. because such a girl would just leave me after a few weeks when she got bored. thats where responsiblity comes in, sticking through the tough times instead of just the initial fun time. a lot of the younger gen is just me me me, so when stuff gets tough or stops going their way they just quit. I'm looking for a life long relationship. yeah its possible but such cases are the rare exceptions.

you're in your 30s just about. time to accept you're almost 30 so you're going to date 30 year olds. I'm have to aaccept that myself. I use to do 20-30 range and while I've raised the first. I have a hard time raising the latter. atleast I won't have to deal with much over 30. I 'd hate to reach a point where I could only date 40+

no i met her friend before we hung out for a week. she was still truing to date the catfish at that point and introduced her friend to me in a attempt to get me and the friend to date. well the friend wasn't into guys and I helped her decide that
we hung out not dated. we never went on any dates. I did go on a brief date with the friend though.
well I lacked the income and home that she desired.

doesn't seem to be normal most couples I see are withing 1-2 years or the same age.

maybe if I was rich like the playboy guy.



yes that is the guy opinion its women who are the ones who say its creepy or cradle robbing.

Do you want to be still this way in your forties? Then better hurry up now.

In some states, there are "defenses" to statutory rape charges, based upon age difference. It's legal in New York State, for example, for someone who is 18 to have sex with a 16-year-old, though a 21-year-old cannot have sex with a 17-year-old. Other states have laws which state that a 3-year age difference is a valid defense.

I've never met a person who finds a relationship between an early 20's and an early 30's person to be creepy. In my experience, the older party tends to be the man. But I've had March/December romances before where I was the younger person. It would evoke questioning responses--but not "ewwwww" responses.

Let me emphasize that I have no particular desire for much younger ladies. I find ladies of my age to be frequently attractive as well.

What would be the point of celibacy if it didn't frustrate them?

The thing is, almost noöne wants their children to have sex, especially their daughters. Perhaps the age of consent should be raised to 30, and we should get rid of any pretence that it's for protecting young people from older sex offenders, rather than simply for preventing them from having sex. To reinforce the measure so it won't be taken back, we could raise the age required to vote to 40

So to summarize this long thread, is being romantically and sexually inexperienced in your late 20s a life sentence or not?

Unlike OP I'm not bitter about the past I could have had. I'm just worried about the future I might not be able to have.

I don't like that approach, because it's only a matter of time for the future to become past. So, if you won't be bitter for having wasted the time which is now future, why not just waste it, especially if you're already in the habit of wasting your life, like I am?

Even though you're being sarcastic it's sort of true. It's because they don't want their 15 year old kid having mutually consensual sex with another 15 year old kid. They say a 15 year old isn't smart enough to know whether or not they're consenting.

I'll admit that I did some pretty dumb things when I was 15. I also did some pretty dumb things when I was 20. They say the brain doesn't mature until 25. But even at 15 I wasn't so dumb that I couldn't tell whether or not I wanted something.

So why this arbitrary age? Why can't the age of consent be based on biology rather than a randomly selected number? Is it just to frustrate all the teenagers? To tell them they have to be celibate at an age when they're physically mature and experiencing sexual attraction?

Is it just a rule that's meant to be broken? Remember for all the NTs, the majority of them were sexually active when they were teenagers. Remember that a 17 year old may look just as physically developed as an 18 year old. How to tell them apart? Is this just another mad rule of our mad society?

That is true. Tell that to AspieOtaku. He's going to that 20 year old amazon get away. Think how disappointed she'll be.

I think very much all rules are meant to be broken by those who dare and can afford it. It's yet another mechanism to weed out the weak. Neurotypicals seem to know it instinctively. I wish I'd known it as a teenager.

I don't like to waste my time. It's just a matter of what a waste of time is. For example I have time off work at the moment. The NTs would be flying to exotic countries and many of them had suggestions for places I should go where I would meet new people, but I would prefer not to as I find it stressful. Therefore I've been at home working out. I don't care what anyone says about how fun holidays are, I'm half way through my 'holiday' and I'm already feeling fitter and stronger. So my time isn't wasted at all. Except that I really can't meet any new people like this. But maybe next year I will be fitter and stronger to the point that I can take on the challenge.

I'm aware of being behind other people my age but that in itself is not motivation enough for me to speed up and do things I'm not comfortable with.

It's just hard to constantly reassure myself that it will all be fine in the end.

hurry up to what?
life hardly changes. people who are well off stay well off people who are poor stay poor. its a system designed by the well off to keep people poor. if more and more people become well off that means what? means the limited money is spread out. so people who were well off are less well off as some of the money they got is now going to the new well off people. the more there is the more its spread out. mean if everyone in the use was well off. then no one would be well off anymore. if we all had 200 billion dollars. you wouldn't have rich and poor. the whole system relies on there being people below you so you can be above people. so they dont 'want people climbing up. heck anything I do to try to get off SSI i get punished. welfare is designed to keep people on it. I was born poor. the days of people climbing out are long gone. you wont' be that guy who started as a poor immigrant then later became a billionaire rancher anymore. its very very very rare for that to happen anymore.
america isnt' the land of opportunity anymore.

they dont' say it to their faces. they gossip about them behind their backs. I hear this all the time. I see it in other groups.
"omg did you see ____ is dating an older guy how creepy, cant' he just find a girl his own age."
or hearing parents talk about trying to break them up.

this is how people work. only a very few will openly tell others they are creepy or bad.