Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Would it be a turn off to most people if it was clear that the other person did NOT want to sleep with you - like if they had already said no and were crying or whatever? Or would a normal person just not act on it? Could following through be related to sadism?
I can see play involving those ideas being enjoyable.
I really struggle to see how genuinely harming someone would be though.
The whole idea with play is that usually you've discussed rules to ensure things don't go too far; but also, you know it's something that's desired, in a controlled setting, not something undesired in an uncontrolled setting.
I wasn’t talking about bdsm.
I understand, but some insights might still be applicable.
I think seeing someone flinch (for example) has a subconscious effect, I'd anticipate other helplessly defensive behaviours provoke similar responses. I'd certainly hope that for most people that would subconsciously trigger an inhibition on their aggression.
I would think that it would require an exceptionally high degree of sadism, possibly combined with an inability to understand the depth of distress another person can feel to be able to ignore or even feed off of that sort of level of distress you're implying.
Callousness often involves issues with how one experiences their own emotions just as much as with how one interacts with others, if one's deepest distresses don't carry substantial emotional weight they might fail to realize that's not how most people feel extreme distress. This might also help explain the tendency for people with that trait to gaslight others on their negative experiences, it's not that bad because for them, it literally couldn't be that bad, so they insist it's not as big of deal as it was.
Personally, even with all sorts of conscious elements working against those subconscious factors, they can be triggered and that's where I start not feeling so comfortable with further participation.
Although, I might be projecting inhibitions on to others.
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