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01 Nov 2009, 11:29 am

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Those are thoughts that would put any man off of marrying any woman. From what I understand, California is pretty bad.


The joke here is that in a California divorce, you divide everything into two equal halves - and then give both to the woman.

The basic premise of California divorce law is that women are helpless, unsophisticated and incapable of surviving without a man. How's that for a "liberal" state?



From what I understand, its the same here in Mass.. Judges seem to give everything to the women.



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01 Nov 2009, 11:51 am

Maybe the best solution is to go and live in Thailand, enjoy all the women that you want, and then, if things get rough, just leave the country.



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01 Nov 2009, 1:06 pm

Grisha wrote:
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Those are thoughts that would put any man off of marrying any woman. From what I understand, California is pretty bad.


The joke here is that in a California divorce, you divide everything into two equal halves - and then give both to the woman.

The basic premise of California divorce law is that women are helpless, unsophisticated and incapable of surviving without a man. How's that for a "liberal" state?


Sources, please? I wonder why it would be different from other states.



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01 Nov 2009, 1:38 pm

Divorce laws vary from state to state, as do marriage laws. I knew a woman who was planning to divorce her hustband, but was contemplating moving to California to file from there, because the divorce laws are so much more favourable to the women.



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01 Nov 2009, 7:35 pm

here is another film that might be worth watching:

http://www.in.com/videos/watchvideo-tha ... 53970.html

If you are familiar with bit torrent, it is available in the usual places.



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02 Nov 2009, 8:31 am

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I could go just about anywhere in Thailand and never feel threatened. Not so in the Philippines.

Again you are coming from the position of ignorance "what I don't know can't hurt me". Just because you let loose in Thailand, and people where hospitable, doesn't mean you are necessarily safe. Thailand has it fair share of criminal activity, terrorist militias operating within the country and spilling over the borders. Abductions are not that rare.

I get the impression that people are coming to the incorrect conclusion, that you can stereotype Asian women, and that makes them suitable for "aspie" men, and that Asian women are naive.

Foreigners can learn to adapt quickly to a new culture, and even overtake you socially.


Thailand is rather safe, except parts of the south because of muslimextremist activity. The women don't think you're weird when you are quiet and like to be alone.


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02 Nov 2009, 9:02 am

If you go to the main tourist areas (especially the sex-tourist areas), someone is bound to try to hussle you. But, if you just learn how to brush them off, you're fine. Also, if you jump in a taxi without first negotiating the price, you will be hussled then, too. Also, if you are looking for good deals on gold and jewelry, you will probably be cheated, if you have no idea on what you buying.



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02 Nov 2009, 9:03 am

Actually, the same thing happens in the USA all the time, most commonly when you seek to buy a house or car.



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02 Nov 2009, 9:08 am

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Divorce laws vary from state to state, as do marriage laws. I knew a woman who was planning to divorce her hustband, but was contemplating moving to California to file from there, because the divorce laws are so much more favourable to the women.


Is it still the weirdo hippie State? You must have a decent marriage contract. I was not naive.


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02 Nov 2009, 11:49 am

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Is it still the weirdo hippie State?


Well, they do keep electing second-rate actors as governor.

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You must have a decent marriage contract. I was not naive.


Well done!

A lot of girls who work at the bars in hopes of marrying a foreigner seemed quite hard core to me--a nice, quiet one can be wonderful!



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02 Nov 2009, 12:06 pm

pandabear wrote:
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Is it still the weirdo hippie State?


Well, they do keep electing second-rate actors as governor.

WhiskeyInTheJar wrote:

You must have a decent marriage contract. I was not naive.


Well done!

A lot of girls who work at the bars in hopes of marrying a foreigner seemed quite hard core to me--a nice, quiet one can be wonderful!


I don't go to bars. The women approached me. Just look rich, smartphone, and its done.


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02 Nov 2009, 1:20 pm

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Thailand is rather safe, except parts of the south because of muslimextremist activity. The women don't think you're weird when you are quiet and like to be alone.

Thailand has other violent criminal groups also spilling over the borders in the north. It is part of the golden triangle.

Don't get me wrong I don't think it is that terrible, I have lived in a war zone it was fine. I am saying it is naive to think you are somehow automatically safer in Thailand than the Philippines.

Women might not find you weird in Thailand, if you over them more than they can expect in Thailand. It is all to do with social expectations. In USA for instance. Groups of women (the ones that interest you, as you will ignore then ones that don't despite people claiming not to be picky) have a much different social expectation, and given the opportunity to have a more confident outgoing man, with status they will probably go with that. Simply due to the fact they have that opportunity



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02 Nov 2009, 2:37 pm

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If you go to the main tourist areas (especially the sex-tourist areas), someone is bound to try to hussle you. But, if you just learn how to brush them off, you're fine. Also, if you jump in a taxi without first negotiating the price, you will be hussled then, too. Also, if you are looking for good deals on gold and jewelry, you will probably be cheated, if you have no idea on what you buying.

That is exactly my point abduction are then unheard of in the tourist areas too. Sometime they keep them locally other time they take them over the borders.

Besides they have coup d'état practically every year these days. Granted most of these are relatively bloodless.



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02 Nov 2009, 5:59 pm

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I don't go to bars. The women approached me. Just look rich, smartphone, and its done.


Did you decide to live in Thailand, or to go back to wherever you're from?

You being approached by women in Thailand might bother the wife. And, men approaching your wife in your country might bother you.



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02 Nov 2009, 7:41 pm

I think the video is fascinating. (As are the other videos about Thai relationships on the same site, even when they caused me to wince). I'm very glad I saw it.

And because I know enough couples where one person is North American and the other is Asian, I understand the family responsibilities involved, especially (in my personal knowledge) when it comes to American/Filipino marriages. Taking care of one's parents is an essential duty to most Asians (female or male, doesn't matter), and this is just understood as a fundamental center point of adult children's lives. If someone from North American culture is not agreeable to providing regular monetary support to their in-laws-to-be, then they should not be in a marriage or a committed relationship with the adult offspring involved.

It's the same thing as an American woman marrying a Saudi national and going to Saudi Arabia (or Yemen, Ethiopia, etc.) to live: if you don't want to live under those kinds of realities and restrictions, and you don't want your children (especially your girls) growing up in those kinds of restricted, highly crippling circumstances (which could, according to that family, include routine and expected female genital mutilation), then do not marry that man.

The one comes with the other--in Asia, or the Middle East, or Africa, or wherever else there are substantial and basic conflicting cultural norms between what "we" feel is right and proper and what "they" do.



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02 Nov 2009, 8:28 pm

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You being approached by women in Thailand might bother the wife. And, men approaching your wife in your country might bother you.

In the sense that it might break the arrangement. It is not a given that there is going to be any love lost. That is what I mean about being realistic.

If this is what you want go into it eyes open, and don’t get lost in your own fantasy.