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21 Jan 2010, 10:15 am

I didn't even catch the "it" thing biostructure said. Totally insulting, never refer to anybody, or any group of people as "it". This is completely dehumanizing, and part of the underlying problem, which is objectification. Which again bothers me.

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21 Jan 2010, 10:28 am

therange wrote:

A lot of guys on here just seem to want sex and nothing else.

I'm not convinced this is true. I think it's part defense mechanism, and part having no 3-d experience so your imagination is happening in a vacuum of a set of real-life intimate experiences.

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21 Jan 2010, 12:12 pm

biostructure wrote:

I think the question is, why don't more women obsess over our gender? I think part of the answer is a supply and demand issue. There are so many more men looking for sex or dates that women never get desperate.

Sounds like someone needs a biology lesson. Do you know there is a 50/50 chance of the gender of a new born baby? Guess what that means? Theres approximately the same amount of women and men in the world.

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21 Jan 2010, 12:13 pm

HopeGrows wrote:

@Biostructure - If you want to have more physical intimacy with women, you may want to stop referring to them as "it" - as in, "Just a need to be near a body of the opposite sex, to admire it naked, whatever." If you said "it" and didn't realize it, I've no doubt you're giving off that vibe in person to any woman you're interested in - and that's not going to work.

Jesus. I think you're right. objectification at its worst. He's probably giving off that vibe all the time.

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21 Jan 2010, 10:40 pm

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Like Hope always says, it's normal to want sex, but when it's your main focus for talking to the opposite sex, there's a problem.

Why is this a problem. Isn't sex the only thing that requires someone of the opposite sex (for heterosexuals)? Everything else could equally well be done with people of the same sex.

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I'm not convinced this is true. I think it's part defense mechanism, and part having no 3-d experience so your imagination is happening in a vacuum of a set of real-life intimate experiences.

That's what's so frustrating to me, that 95% of women find it SOOO much easier to get "3-d experience" as you put it, to get out of that vacuum. If I weren't in that vacuum, I wouldn't be obsessing about sex so much. And it almost seems that women just expect us to get a clue without helping us actually get experiences first.

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I naturally tend to refer to bodies as "it", even my own sometimes. it's amazing how sensitive people are about this.

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21 Jan 2010, 10:46 pm

okay, well, if it means so much to the people on this board, I'll at least make an effort to stop talking about myself so much... though i can't promise 100% compliance, i'll at least give it a shot...

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21 Jan 2010, 11:08 pm

biostructure wrote:

If I weren't in that vacuum, I wouldn't be obsessing about sex so much. And it almost seems that women just expect us to get a clue without helping us actually get experiences first.

If all you want is sex, go hire an escort.

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21 Jan 2010, 11:33 pm

biostructure wrote:

Do you not realise this applies to women too? Most guys can't be bothered with girls with no experience.. but then how are they going to get any?

You really come across as an idiot from your posts sorry. Are you 95% of women? Yeah, didn't think so. Don't speak for 95% of women unless you are them, THANKYOU VERY MUCH.

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21 Jan 2010, 11:34 pm

Yeah, I should become a madam. I see a potential for healing and cash. No, I don't want to be an escort, I fall in love too easily. SporadSpartan, where are you?

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21 Jan 2010, 11:43 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

Most guys can't be bothered with girls with no experience..

This is HUGE news to me. Seriously. I feel like we're living on separate planets here.

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You really come across as an idiot from your posts sorry. Are you 95% of women? Yeah, didn't think so. Don't speak for 95% of women unless you are them, THANKYOU VERY MUCH.

I don't (in person) know a single woman who I don't think could easily get sex *tonight*, just by extending an offer to all her male friends. They would have no need to approach strangers, go to bars, etc. unless they wanted to. Though the more time I spend on this board, the more I'm beginning to question how much this has to do with them being female.

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22 Jan 2010, 12:21 am

Biostructure...women are attracted to men that want them for more than the fact that they have a p***y. And when they want casual sex, they're naturally going to seek out the best guy for the job. What are you currently offering them?

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22 Jan 2010, 12:42 am

biostructure wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

Most guys can't be bothered with girls with no experience..

This is HUGE news to me. Seriously. I feel like we're living on separate planets here.

Well take it from me. I am a 24 year old woman, who up until recently, had no experience. I have observed males for years. I have been passed by by males for years, for THIS REASON. I was so desperate to lose my virginity i got really drunk and someone did something horrible to me and it completely SMASHED and ruined my idea of what sex should be like. Does that sound like someone who is all talk? It was a real problem for me, and it really F*CKS ME OFF hearing you say that.

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22 Jan 2010, 12:48 am

hale_bopp wrote:

biostructure wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

Most guys can't be bothered with girls with no experience..

This is HUGE news to me. Seriously. I feel like we're living on separate planets here.

I'm sorry. That sounds absolutely awful, not only because you had to resort to that kind of situation to experience sex, but also how alone you must have been, that you didn't know a man who would have been willing to help. I don't have a huge circle of friends, and yet I know many who would have no problem with this.

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22 Jan 2010, 12:56 am

biostructure wrote:

And again, you're making assumptions. Some women are afraid to because they're scared of men like you, who are definitely out there. Women are much more easily taken advantage of than men are. Women get stuck with a lot more of the consequences as well, and in this still-admittedly misogynistic society, they get stuck with a lot of the social issues...

So don't go thinking a woman could just go out and sleep with any man they wanted, because women, unlike men, can't (and shouldn't) make such decisions lightly...

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22 Jan 2010, 12:58 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:

biostructure wrote:

And again, you're making assumptions. Some women are afraid to because they're scared of men like you, who are definitely out there. Women are much more easily taken advantage of than men are. Women get stuck with a lot more of the consequences as well, and in this still-admittedly misogynistic society, they get stuck with a lot of the social issues...

So don't go thinking a woman could just go out and sleep with with any man they wanted, because women, unlike men, can't (and shouldn't) make such decisions lightly...

Wow, for once Toad and I agree on something.

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22 Jan 2010, 12:59 am

you obviously didnt see my post on page 5:

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