It seems to me that most hot women in the US are stuck up.
And I also find it interesting that everyone just ignored what I wrote and went right to the arguing. I think I summed it up pretty nicely, given my general lack of knowledge on women from other parts of the world. Just like with politics and religion, people like to argue about things such as this. Maybe this is a form of philosophy?
I didn't ignore you, I thought you were correct.
And like I said, there's a difference between hot and attractive/beautiful/pretty. When I refer to hot, I'm talking about the diva types or the types that are escorts or strippers, not just any attractive or beautiful woman. Or the one in high school that everyone wanted.
The perfect example is the Mena Suvari character in American Beauty...and the way she treated her own friend even (Kevin Spacey's daughter)...those are the women I'm talking about.
I don't hate women, or have sour grapes. I dated a girl that was very pretty...an 8 on the 10 scale to most guys who saw her (and a 10 to me, which is all that matters)...but she wasn't that type of woman...she was more girl next door/down to earth. She knew she could get guys, but didn't have that air of superiority since she didn't grow up with a sense of entitlement.
I understand what you're trying to say but I'm still curious about your definition of 'hot'. Am I incorrect in saying you have your own definition of hot? Seems to me you call beautiful women who are stuck up hot? Or are you saying that super hot women by definition are stuck up? I also want to mention that the girls in my high school that everyone wanted are actually nice.
I didn't ignore you either. I said that "I think this captures most everything relevant about the topic."
_________________
Put the curse of loneliness on every boy and every girl,
Until everybody's kickin', everybody's scratchin',
Everything seems to fail ?
And it was all for the want of a nail.
So, let me understand: your concern is that you can't seem to meet an escort or stripper who's not stuck up???
_________________
Put the curse of loneliness on every boy and every girl,
Until everybody's kickin', everybody's scratchin',
Everything seems to fail ?
And it was all for the want of a nail.
So, let me understand: your concern is that you can't seem to meet an escort or stripper who's not stuck up???

I'm not concerned at all. I don't even want sex, at least casual sex. I'm just having a discussion.
Bla bla f***ing bla I read the first couple of sentences and it was enough. Why don't you people find some hobbies or something?
Unfortunately I didn't have anything else to do at that time so I thought I would make a topic about something that intrigued me.
I also fail to believe most men here who harbor such convictions as yours about "hot" women, have probably never actually interacted with a "hot" woman because they are so intimidated by their own (mis)perceptions and social awkwardness. I postulate that it's some of the men here who have never given "hot" women a chance.
I would also like to point out that some "hot" women are stuck up, but it usually has nothing to do with thinking they are better than anyone, and more to do with past experiences at being harassed by men they were friendly to in the past, who took that friendlyness as them being interested in dating them or having sex with them, and then became hostile when it did not pan out they way they had expected.
And remember, it's much easier for a woman to get pegged as cold or stuck up than a man, because people expect women to be overtly warm and friendly. This has been addressed in previous topics.
I have interacted with "hot" women and have many male friends who have and have experienced the same thing. Anyone who isn't in their direct social circle or can benefit them in some way is less than human to them.
I think most people prefer to socialize primarily with those in their social circles...thus social circles. It's not limited to hot women. As someone with AS, I generally don't prescribe to the concept of staying within one's social circle, but most NT's do and feel uncomfortable with people who are not very similar to them.
Escorts, strippers, porn stars. If your intention is just one of interacting with them as human beings, then most of them are relatively nice people. If you were just chatting with them in line at the supermarket, or car wash, or happened to be neighbors with one and wanted to talk about the hedge between your two houses, I doubt the most of them would come off as snobbish. If you are trying to interact with them to "get" with them that's a different story. These women are in the business of using their looks to earn a living. All of their clients/fans would like to have sex with them, most of them would like to date them, and some of them want to marry them, and for the most part, that is not something these women are interested in at this point in their lives, and they probably get tired in engaging in very long turn downs where they attempt to say "I'm not interested" nicely. So they are just direct about.
As for the high school girls, they are teenagers, who are usually emotionally immature children, and the stuck up ones were not worth my time as friends, or your time as a girlfriends, end of story.
Yes but you are choosing cases where looking hot is already coupled with snobbery and assuming that is always the case.
[img][800:768]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/Beckett20and7/Rose-Byrne-28.jpg[/img]
The first two women are extremely attractive...whether you want to call them beautiful or hot or whatever...but they look like nice people...and from what I know of them in their interviews, they are nice people despite their beauty.
The second two (I'd argue that Pam Anderson isn't at all attractive anyway...fake boobs, ugly face (and even if you like her face, look at it without makeup)...are the kind that a lot of guys would rather have than the first two, because of supposed "sex-appeal." I've had guys tell me that women like the first two are too "plain."
Also, Pam Anderson just looks like a snob and up to no good...and no surprise, she is. The last woman...she's not ugly, but she has that "snobby" look to her...and no surprise, she always plays a b*tch in whatever role she has...and married a douche in real life, Brian Austin Green (no offense to Brian, I actually like him in 90210...but in real life, he's had his share of problems with the spotlight)...and Green is now married to another douche...Megan Fox.
Am I saying every woman on the earth that looks like that type of women is a douche or a snob? No. But with the excessive makeup and ostentatious wardrobe...they aren't helping their causes at all.
And my point, the reason I even talk about these women in the first place...is because I get the impression some guys on here have fantasies about that type of woman, and it's simply not going to happen, and they wouldn't want her anyway if they thought about it.
The first type of woman...even while nice, they have standards, too...whether lookswise, personality wise, lifestyle wise. And it's safe to say that the below average looking guys on this site have no chance with them, let alone the snobby types. Most NT women of any attraction level want a guy, who if not handsome, is at least social.
For the above average looking guys on here, they could very well attract someone like the first two women. That's why the movie Adam is realistic. My ex looked like a combination of those two.
techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,682
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi
here it is, for your perusal.
It wasn't that. Later on, when he said that he was hoping these problems would work their way out of society - he never said that he wanted an outcome where girls become agreeable and guys stay brash, I couldn't find anything between the lines to that effect either.
here it is, for your perusal.
It wasn't that. Later on, when he said that he was hoping these problems would work their way out of society - he never said that he wanted an outcome where girls become agreeable and guys stay brash, I couldn't find anything between the lines to that effect either.
he said that women start out agreeable and become less so because of men's treatment. which says that women were somehow ruined from their better state (agreeable), which is what i disagreed with. agreeable little girls are not a positive thing - they should be raised to be strong and speak up for themselves.
_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105
techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,682
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi
here it is, for your perusal.
It wasn't that. Later on, when he said that he was hoping these problems would work their way out of society - he never said that he wanted an outcome where girls become agreeable and guys stay brash, I couldn't find anything between the lines to that effect either.
he said that women start out agreeable and become less so because of men's treatment. which says that women were somehow ruined from their better state (agreeable), which is what i disagreed with. agreeable little girls are not a positive thing - they should be raised to be strong and speak up for themselves.
I think the 'agreeable' he was using was something entirely different, he was wishing it on both genders as well.
here it is, for your perusal.
It wasn't that. Later on, when he said that he was hoping these problems would work their way out of society - he never said that he wanted an outcome where girls become agreeable and guys stay brash, I couldn't find anything between the lines to that effect either.
he said that women start out agreeable and become less so because of men's treatment. which says that women were somehow ruined from their better state (agreeable), which is what i disagreed with. agreeable little girls are not a positive thing - they should be raised to be strong and speak up for themselves.
I think the 'agreeable' he was using was something entirely different, he was wishing it on both genders as well.
sure, absolutely. we stopped discussing that part of it.
then he went on to make other misogynistic comments. did you miss those? check out page 2 and so on.
_________________
on a break, so if you need assistance please contact another moderator from this list:
viewtopic.php?t=391105
