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10 Mar 2011, 12:52 pm

You might as well take your profile off that dating site, jamieboy. No woman in her right mind would look twice at a bloke like you if this is what you're like

You think you've got balls? BS. Sitting on your ass whining and feeling sorry for yourself, while doing f**k all to improve you life isn't anything to be proud of. You're pathetic



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10 Mar 2011, 12:52 pm

What a coward. If he had an ounce of intellectual integrity he'd stay and argue why he think's DLA should be removed from AS people rendering them, homeless. I feel sorry for him because he knows he's wrong



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10 Mar 2011, 12:55 pm

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You might as well take your profile off that dating site, jamieboy. No woman in her right mind would look twice at a bloke like you if this is what you're like

You think you've got balls? BS. Sitting on your ass whining and feeling sorry for yourself, while doing f**k all to improve you life isn't anything to be proud of. You're pathetic


Me sitting on my ass and feeling sorry for myself is a device for people like you to feel better about yourself and your own trevails. I have chronic depression, anxiety and Aspergers syndrome, i struggle with life and i'm not ashamed about it



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10 Mar 2011, 12:58 pm

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You might as well take your profile off that dating site, jamieboy. No woman in her right mind would look twice at a bloke like you if this is what you're like

You think you've got balls? BS. Sitting on your ass whining and feeling sorry for yourself, while doing f**k all to improve you life isn't anything to be proud of. You're pathetic


Me sitting on my ass and feeling sorry for myself is a device for people like you to feel better about yourself and your own trevails. I have chronic depression, anxiety and Aspergers syndrome, i struggle with life and i'm not ashamed about it


There's nothing wrong with admiting you struggle with life. Doing nothing about that struggle though (except of course moaning about it and wallowing in self pity) means I have no symapathy though

Do you think other people here don't have problems as well? This site is full of people with problems. I have depression, anxiety and AS too, as well as a few others. But the difference between me and you is that I actively try and make my life better instead of just feeling sorry for myself and blaming it on everyone else



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10 Mar 2011, 1:01 pm

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You might as well take your profile off that dating site, jamieboy. No woman in her right mind would look twice at a bloke like you if this is what you're like

You think you've got balls? BS. Sitting on your ass whining and feeling sorry for yourself, while doing f**k all to improve you life isn't anything to be proud of. You're pathetic


Me sitting on my ass and feeling sorry for myself is a device for people like you to feel better about yourself and your own trevails. I have chronic depression, anxiety and Aspergers syndrome, i struggle with life and i'm not ashamed about it


There's nothing wrong with admiting you struggle with life. Doing nothing about that struggle though (except of course moaning about it and wallowing in self pity) means I have no symapathy though

Do you think other people here don't have problems as well? This site is full of people with problems. I have depression, anxiety and AS too, as well as a few others. But the difference between me and you is that I actively try and make my life better instead of just feeling sorry for myself and blaming it on everyone else


f*****g BS. I dont blame it on anyone else, i just dont blame myself for it either. Maybe you do blame yourself for your problems and me for mine? Have fun with that.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:08 pm

Your repeated complaining about the government and society suggests you DO blame others

You definitely like to focus on the external factors anyway

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Because real men internalise all their problems and blame themselves for the sh** education they recieved, the sh** healthcare they didnt get and start DOING SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION. That something means assimilating to the society that failed them and jumping through hoops for it. Well counts me out! I've got balls, i'm not snivelling little bootlick.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:08 pm

Everyone has their own unique struggles. Everyone constantly does everything in their power to overcome these struggles; no one wants to be unhappy. The opposite. What you may see as someone being weak and self-pitying and "not trying" is actually someone who has had to face more daunting challenges than you, and that you would cope with in exactly the same manner if these challenges were yours.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:11 pm

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Everyone has their own unique struggles. Everyone constantly does everything in their power to overcome these struggles; no one wants to be unhappy. The opposite. What you may see as someone being weak and self-pitying and "not trying" is actually someone who has had to face more daunting challenges than you, and that you would cope with in exactly the same manner if these challenges were yours.


I've not exactly had an easy life either. How many people here have? I doubt jamieboy's problems are any worse than most of the members here



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10 Mar 2011, 1:16 pm

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Your repeated complaining about the government and society suggests you DO blame others

You definitely like to focus on the external factors anyway

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Because real men internalise all their problems and blame themselves for the sh** education they recieved, the sh** healthcare they didnt get and start DOING SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION. That something means assimilating to the society that failed them and jumping through hoops for it. Well counts me out! I've got balls, i'm not snivelling little bootlick.


I do blame the education system that was unable to help me when i left school on having my first breakdown at aged 13. I wasn't properly educated and i blame them for it. Who's to blame?

I blame the health system for not diagnosing me as an aspie younger despite them admitting to my mother than i had it. Again they're to blame and why should i blame myself for it?

I dont feel any duty to make amends to society that's failed me. I could go and apply at sainsburys now if i was stupid enough to think there was any honour in being ripped off by a huge corporation but i'm not and i wont do it.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:16 pm

They may or may not be worse but they are definitely different and obviously different problems call for different measures. I am not sure what your particular struggles have been but there is certainly a place for all sorts of coping mechanisms that at first glance to you may seem unwarranted but upon empathetic examination will reveal themselves to be not only sensible but also the only recourse that the individual in question has available to them. Jamieboy is being exactly as strong as you are being. It just looks different cause you're different people living different lives.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:21 pm

You don't need to blame yourself for being at a s**t school or not getting diagnosed as AS earlier. But what good does it do you to sit dwelling on that now? They may hav f****d you over in the past, but what good does it do you to sit around NOW and not make an effort to change your situation?

purchase - how is it "strong" to do nothing about your problems, yet still whine about them and go on and on about how society has screwed you over? I could do exactly the same thing but, instead, I try and improve my life. IMO that is stronger than what jamieboy is doing (ie, nothing)



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10 Mar 2011, 1:28 pm

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You don't need to blame yourself for being at a sh** school or not getting diagnosed as AS earlier. But what good does it do you to sit dwelling on that now? They may hav f**** you over in the past, but what good does it do you to sit around NOW and not make an effort to change your situation?

purchase - how is it "strong" to do nothing about your problems, yet still whine about them and go on and on about how society has screwed you over? I could do exactly the same thing but, instead, I try and improve my life. IMO that is stronger than what jamieboy is doing (ie, nothing)


Oh that's what it's about is it? Some dumb game of machismo about who's strongest. Alright, alright tough guy YOU SO BIG, YOU SO STRONG. I'm a weakling i know. At least i have my huge coinpile to keep me away from the outside world. I'll never take s**t from anyone and i'll never blame myself for having AS and "try to change". I have full autonomy over my own life and thats all that matters me. The rest of planet earth can go f**k itself for all i care. Life is meaningless and we're all doomed to death anyway.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:30 pm

It's a different approach to strength. If you have the belief that it's every man for himself and you have to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps and that is what life is, someone wanting support from others seems weak I suppose. If you place stock in the idea of one's fellow humans coming together and supporting one another (and not ignoring one another and climbing over one another when some of its members are in distress and facing challenges) because this will create a better more truly egalitarian society where no one is left to suffer unsupported, then it is strong to persist in your belief in the possibility of the evolvement of this kind of society. Personally I think it would be, and is to the extent that it exists, a cold world where nobody looks out for their fellow beings. People are social creatures and need the support of others in so many ways it's hard to count.



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10 Mar 2011, 1:31 pm

Actually it was purchase who brought up the stuff about being strong. Not me. I was simply replying to him/her.

If I'm being completely honest though, from what I've read of your posts, I would have to say I think I AM stronger than you.

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10 Mar 2011, 1:32 pm

I've just noticed this thread. Keep the comments unpersonal. Attacks on other members won't be tolerated. If you're angry, take yourself away from the PC and take a good long walk before you post.


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10 Mar 2011, 1:33 pm

Very little is accomplished by shouting and name-calling by either side. The facts of the matter as I seem them are thus. Malthusian economic theory, which I happen to subscribe to, suggests that unregulated reproduction will always leave a certain amount of surplus labor in any society and invariably condemn said persons to a life of abject poverty regardless of any attempts by government or charity to ameliorate their situation. There will never be enough "jobs", or anything else, to go around not because of any failure of the economy, but rather because of an unnecessary surplus of humanity. In any Darwinian system in which organisms are left to their own devices to fend for themselves, some will thrive while others will struggle, and eventually die. This is how evolutionary theory works. If you're going to tell people to "get a job", you may as well be telling them to go die in a cave because they're less fit to survive than you. Effort and motivation are irrelevant from a biological perspective.

My solution, had I the power to do it, would be to implement population control laws globally that would gradually reduce the human population over a span of several decades or even centuries. If there were more than enough jobs to go around and no surplus of people to do them, we would have no choice but to be more accommodating to the less able members of our society and find ways for them to be productive. As long as it remains cheaper and easier to simply discard those that are deemed unsuitable for whatever reason, be it due to their own foolish choices or unhappy chance, there will always be a segment of the population willing to discard the weak and unproductive in favor of the strong and productive. This is the ironclad law of purely self-interested capitalist economic theory. It cannot be overcome by any amount of rhetoric about laziness or choice.


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