Do guys think they'd be better off as woman with AS?

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18 Apr 2011, 5:04 pm

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I get called creepy on a regular basis. I try and work on not being creepy.


Here's some food for thought. If most women with AS are considered creepy (this is a big leap of faith, so if I'm wrong, just bear with me) then how can we say that women with AS have it easier? Most guys I've met with AS are "creepy" as well. But men are supposed to approach women, and women are supposed to be approached by men. Who wants to approach a creepy girl when there are many non-creepy girls out there? At least the creepy guy doesn't need to be approached.

By the way, for those of you that may have any cognitive dissonance about men approaching women, if women were supposed to approach men, then the vagina would go inside the penis. That's what dating and courtship is at the very core, the precursor to sex. Without sex, dating is out of the question. So if that idea makes sense, it explains many things, including why guys are mainly attracted to looks (if the guy gets to choose, i.e. the penis goes into the vagina, why not choose someone who is sex-y? as in more fertile, which is what attractiveness is all about) and such silliness as when women complain that guys don't approach them. Do you guys want a girl to penetrate you? I didn't think so. And most women don't want to penetrate guys either, which is why they complain about that.



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18 Apr 2011, 6:11 pm

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I think women have it bit easier than men, at least in adult years.


Oh cool. Want to share your experience from the time before you had a sex change? I'll be interested to hear.


Wow, what's up with the personal attack hale_bopp? :? I said "I think women have it bit easier than men". You might want to work on your attitude, then maybe you will be more pleasant to be around.



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18 Apr 2011, 6:51 pm

MyWorld wrote:
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I think women have it bit easier than men, at least in adult years.


Oh cool. Want to share your experience from the time before you had a sex change? I'll be interested to hear.


Wow, what's up with the personal attack hale_bopp? :? I said "I think women have it bit easier than men". You might want to work on your attitude, then maybe you will be more pleasant to be around.

i think it gets pretty frustrating to hear people saying over and over and over again how much easier aspie women have it. and it really doesn't matter what the women say in order to defend themselves - 2 weeks later another thread like this pops up...

there are fewer aspie women than men on this site (or in real life), so they are faced with a large number of men who keep telling them how easy it supposedly is for them. we are a minority and have to try to prove something that nobody believes anyways.

but those men who say this stuff don't live in our shoes... and really... you don't see us saying how easy it is for men in our perspectives, so i don't really get why we have to keep airing our dirty laundry to prove how sh***y our lives can be just so some of the men on this site will start to understand...

and then the same ideas pop up again in another thread...

after the 10th/25th/100th thread it gets tiresome.



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18 Apr 2011, 6:56 pm

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but those men who say this stuff don't live in our shoes... and really... you don't see us saying how easy it is for men in our perspectives, so i don't really get why we have to keep airing our dirty laundry to prove how sh***y our lives can be just so some of the men on this site will start to understand


I think there just fishing for good w*k material myself


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18 Apr 2011, 7:27 pm

MyWorld wrote:
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I think women have it bit easier than men, at least in adult years.


Oh cool. Want to share your experience from the time before you had a sex change? I'll be interested to hear.


Wow, what's up with the personal attack hale_bopp? :? I said "I think women have it bit easier than men". You might want to work on your attitude, then maybe you will be more pleasant to be around.


You're still implying we have it easier when you've got no idea. I think men have it really hard.. so do women.



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18 Apr 2011, 7:59 pm

Mindslave wrote:
Do you guys want a girl to penetrate you?
sounds interesting


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18 Apr 2011, 8:14 pm

Men and women both have it hard ... with each gender generally having it hard in a different way.

If we're talking seeking love and affection, men have it harder. If we're talking seeking desired person for love and affection, women have it harder.

Are you all happy now?



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18 Apr 2011, 8:50 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
MyWorld wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
MyWorld wrote:
I think women have it bit easier than men, at least in adult years.


Oh cool. Want to share your experience from the time before you had a sex change? I'll be interested to hear.


Wow, what's up with the personal attack hale_bopp? :? I said "I think women have it bit easier than men". You might want to work on your attitude, then maybe you will be more pleasant to be around.


You're still implying we have it easier when you've got no idea. I think men have it really hard.. so do women.


It's fine to disagree with me, but your snarky comment was uncalled for.



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18 Apr 2011, 9:07 pm

Ok, I apoligise it was out of line. Same with that guy in the other thread, I have no excuse.



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18 Apr 2011, 9:12 pm

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Ok, I apoligise it was out of line. Same with that guy in the other thread, I have no excuse.


I accept your apology. Thank you. No hard feelings?



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18 Apr 2011, 10:38 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Men and women both have it hard ... with each gender generally having it hard in a different way.

If we're talking seeking love and affection, men have it harder. If we're talking seeking desired person for love and affection, women have it harder.

Are you all happy now?


Meaning men and women are looking for the same things, only women are pickier?That implies any difficulties women face are partially their choice.

I would say men are seeking sex, and casual sex, to a much higher degree than women, and women are seeking relationships, and long-term ones at a much higher rate.

In that vein both sexes have it "easier"....not when it comes to getting what THEY want, but in getting what the other sex wants.


If we're actually gonna do this whole vast overgeneralization, stereotyping thing, that's my 2 cents.


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19 Apr 2011, 9:54 am

Again with the men vs. women, oy veey. :roll:



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19 Apr 2011, 11:36 am

I think I would be better off as a cat with AS since all cats are not really social anyways. They say all cats have AS (I personally think this is BS...but whatever).



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19 Apr 2011, 12:20 pm

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I think I would be better off as a cat with AS since all cats are not really social anyways. They say all cats have AS (I personally think this is BS...but whatever).


And they're fluffy and soft, which always makes me feel better. ^.^

I've known cats that are very social. My saxophone teacher had a cat named "Lover Boy" because he was a huuuuge attention whore but I digress. Generalizations are silly for humans and kitty-cats.



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19 Apr 2011, 7:36 pm

I've read that AS is underdiagnosed in girls, so if I was a girl I might have missed the benefits of knowing about it. Still, I sometimes think I'd have been better off if I grew up thinking I was a neurotypical though, and if girls are underdiagnosed, maybe (and I'm only saying maybe) they're more able to fit in normally.

A paper I read suggested AS girls are better at social camouflage, and are more likely to have a nurturing friend. There's also the dating thing you mentioned; it's probably easier to be shy in dating when you're not necessarily expected to take the lead.

I have sometimes thought that it'd be easier to be an AS girl for these reasons


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19 Apr 2011, 7:49 pm

Yes 4 to 1 says it all case closed.

No one has explained why it would be 4 times more prevalent in males why would it. :?

Also geting caned is no fun growing up undiagnosed aspie/severe co morbid conditions (I thinks it's up to 6 times) 3 times on each hand. Woman in the day where spared such humiliations and pain I thought we lived in a equal opportunity society :twisted: it was the 80's and 90;s (19 that is ) for gods sake.

And if you believe in corporal punishment your a nut job who has no idea what your talking about imagine how furious I was when your being baited by teachers/.students bite , get caned and the perpetrators got of stock free. :twisted:

Don't get me started on capital punishment... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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