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27 Apr 2011, 1:02 am

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yeah i like women who have curves but not who are fat

theres a huge difference

a girl with curves is at a healthy weight and looks like she works out


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I believe that social dating pressures will make fat men disappear, as they suffer badly in dating.
This already exists to an extent for black men. Here in UK it is heard to find any fat black men.

I don't think men mind dating a larger woman, except maybe higher status men. So I don't think
A larger woman would be childless as a result of her not finding a mate.


Its a stereotype that black men like overweight women. There is a black man at work who I'm friends with and we like the same kind of women. He talked to a girl for me once but it never worked out, and she was overweight. I also work with another black guy who is my friend, and always tells me about women he sees that I would like. :)


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27 Apr 2011, 5:54 am

Less emphasis by women on appearance sounds like a good thing for folks on the spectrum, seeing that many of us have sensory issues with clothes. Most of us also have trouble understanding the whole fashion business--preferring to wear clothes purely for comfort, instead of non-verbal communication, which many of us don't get.



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27 Apr 2011, 6:59 am

trojan51 wrote:
yeah i like women who have curves but not who are fat

theres a huge difference

a girl with curves is at a healthy weight and looks like she works out


But there are overweight people who work out too. Just because they haven't reached a healthy weight yet doesn't meant they're not trying. Heck, I see more fat people at the university gym than thin people. We have to work harder in a means of justifying ourselves to everyone else that yes, we are living a healthy lifestyle. And don't say, "if they were living a healthy lifestyle, they wouldn't be fat in the first place." While diet and exercise are a good part of what makes a person fit, there are many other factors that can throw it out the window: stress, medication, hormone levels, genetics, metabolism, etc.

I know my weight is a (but not the only) reason that a lot of guys at college don't even acknowledge my existence. Why? Because younger men tend to be shallow (IMO) as they haven't been humbled by the real world yet. In my experience, it's usually the ones with a high metabolism too that are the worst with judging overweight people. They've never dealt with the problem (or not to the same extent) so therefore they're better people than us. :/

To sum up my point: try walking in someone else's shoes for a while before making judgments on them.



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27 Apr 2011, 7:50 am

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True beauty is dead.


8O OMG necrophilia.


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27 Apr 2011, 8:17 am

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*refains from a posting a personal attack*

Perhaps.. just stop posting here and educate yourself on life.

should i edit my response? i was trying to be lighthearted but perhaps i was harsh?


Yeah a little bit, and im not a hater like this guy says

All i hear is my friends and other guys dissing on fat girls all day and then coming onto this site and seeing men who like them! Maybe its an aspie thing

sorry, i didn't mean to be harsh.

there is nothing wrong with men liking fat girls, because the women are fine the way they are, and perhaps some men on this site are more aware of that than the people you know in real life. i don't know how else to say that to you.

if you see people IRL who are dissing fat girls, perhaps you could be a better person than them and stand up for the girls. but it won't get you anywhere on this site to introduce the attitudes you learned from those sorts of people.


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27 Apr 2011, 8:41 am

emuman100 wrote:
Its a stereotype that black men like overweight women. There is a black man at work who I'm friends with and we like the same kind of women. He talked to a girl for me once but it never worked out, and she was overweight. I also work with another black guy who is my friend, and always tells me about women he sees that I would like. :)


Isn't findings about Aspergers syndrome a collection of steriotypes.



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27 Apr 2011, 8:43 am

You are most likely to see beautiful people at large social gatherings that Aspies intentionally avoid. Go to something like Hair and there will be lots of beautiful women in the audience.

http://www.hairontour.com/



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27 Apr 2011, 8:45 am

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You are most likely to see beautiful people at large social gatherings that Aspies intentionally avoid. Go to something like Hair and there will be lots of beautiful women in the audience.

http://www.hairontour.com/


"If you want to see stereotypically beautiful people, avoid places where Aspies want to go because we're all the same." :roll:

Seriously, I would love to go to that. I love broadway shows and concerts. Does that make me not Aspie enough? I'm not the stereotypical beauty either, so is the activity unfit for me? :/



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27 Apr 2011, 9:03 am

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You are most likely to see beautiful people at large social gatherings that Aspies intentionally avoid. Go to something like Hair and there will be lots of beautiful women in the audience.

http://www.hairontour.com/

so... all the beautiful aspies stay at home? or you think aspies are uglier and would dirty up the crowds of beautiful people? i am not understanding your point. both options are a little unlikely.


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27 Apr 2011, 9:10 am

Hi Erisad,

My guess is that if you were to go to a Broadway show, it is likely that you would look more beautiful than if I saw you buying groceries or visiting the drug store. I forgot to include my initial point that it takes work to look beautiful--so people only look their best at special occasions, like going to shows or parties.

Then there is the magazine cover version of beauty--which may take hours of preparation before the photoshoot and a similar amount of time post-production, so everything looks perfect!



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27 Apr 2011, 10:25 am

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Hi Erisad,

My guess is that if you were to go to a Broadway show, it is likely that you would look more beautiful than if I saw you buying groceries or visiting the drug store. I forgot to include my initial point that it takes work to look beautiful--so people only look their best at special occasions, like going to shows or parties.

Then there is the magazine cover version of beauty--which may take hours of preparation before the photoshoot and a similar amount of time post-production, so everything looks perfect!


I highly doubt that. I work hard everyday in a vain attempt to look beautiful. I skip meals, bust my ass at the gym and wear make up, hoping that someone will think I'm beautiful enough to earn their love. There are lots of women like me who just want to be pretty just like the girls that have legions of men yearning for them. Some of us just want the acceptance of one man in their lives. Threads like this chip away at my hope of ever being beautiful. I hope you're happy Trojan Troll. With this thread of yours and your constant fat-bashing, you've succeeded in making me cry at my desk at work. :cry:



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27 Apr 2011, 10:53 am

BTDT wrote:
Hi Erisad,

My guess is that if you were to go to a Broadway show, it is likely that you would look more beautiful than if I saw you buying groceries or visiting the drug store. I forgot to include my initial point that it takes work to look beautiful--so people only look their best at special occasions, like going to shows or parties.


Well that's just a matter of opinion isn't it? Not everyone thinks people who are all glammed up look great.

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Then there is the magazine cover version of beauty--which may take hours of preparation before the photoshoot and a similar amount of time post-production, so everything looks perfect!


And what if you think the magazines cover verision of beutiful is ugly? Just becuase someone may take longer to get ready doesn't mean they look good.



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27 Apr 2011, 10:59 am

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Hi Erisad,

My guess is that if you were to go to a Broadway show, it is likely that you would look more beautiful than if I saw you buying groceries or visiting the drug store. I forgot to include my initial point that it takes work to look beautiful--so people only look their best at special occasions, like going to shows or parties.

Then there is the magazine cover version of beauty--which may take hours of preparation before the photoshoot and a similar amount of time post-production, so everything looks perfect!


I highly doubt that. I work hard everyday in a vain attempt to look beautiful. I skip meals, bust my ass at the gym and wear make up, hoping that someone will think I'm beautiful enough to earn their love. There are lots of women like me who just want to be pretty just like the girls that have legions of men yearning for them. Some of us just want the acceptance of one man in their lives. Threads like this chip away at my hope of ever being beautiful. I hope you're happy Trojan Troll. With this thread of yours and your constant fat-bashing, you've succeeded in making me cry at my desk at work. :cry:
Erisad, sorry that his comments hurt you. maybe with age you will change your feelings about this. at your age i would not have felt this good about myself, and comments like his could really get to me. i know i'm not perfect, but now my reaction to people saying stuff like that is to remember that i am fabulous regardless of what some internet person considers to be my "flaws". i just remember that it's his loss if he can't perceive the good things about big girls because of his own problems.

Erisad you are beautiful already, without any of the makeup or fancy clothes or exercise. knowing and embracing that truth will draw people to you. for real. loving yourself as you really are, as well as you can (nobody is perfect, and we all have some insecurity) is a worthwhile exercise and will bring you great happiness. but you need to really believe that you are worth it, and i can't force you to see it.


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27 Apr 2011, 11:08 am

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I highly doubt that. I work hard everyday in a vain attempt to look beautiful. I skip meals, bust my ass at the gym and wear make up, hoping that someone will think I'm beautiful enough to earn their love. There are lots of women like me who just want to be pretty just like the girls that have legions of men yearning for them. Some of us just want the acceptance of one man in their lives. Threads like this chip away at my hope of ever being beautiful. I hope you're happy Trojan Troll. With this thread of yours and your constant fat-bashing, you've succeeded in making me cry at my desk at work. :cry:


Erisad, sorry that his comments hurt you. maybe with age you will change your feelings about this. at your age i would not have felt this good about myself, and comments like his could really get to me. i know i'm not perfect, but now my reaction to people saying stuff like that is to remember that i am fabulous regardless of what some internet person considers to be my "flaws". i just remember that it's his loss if he can't perceive the good things about big girls because of his own problems.

Erisad you are beautiful already, without any of the makeup or fancy clothes or exercise. knowing and embracing that truth will draw people to you. for real. loving yourself as you really are, as well as you can (nobody is perfect, and we all have some insecurity) is a worthwhile exercise and will bring you great happiness. but you need to really believe that you are worth it, and i can't force you to see it.


I shouldn't have to wait until I'm older to be beautiful. Beauty is supposed to be a gift to the youth and goddamn medication ruined it for me, making me a social pariah for being the only plus size girl in my class at age 10. I feel like my youth has been wasted by being so big. By the time I'm thin, I'll be too old and preoccupied with paying off my loans that I won't have time to go out and meet people. College was my chance to meet someone without the pressure of my family being on him, now it's too late. Until I move out, I won't be able to date at all.

I probably wouldn't care what the trojan troll thinks if it wasn't the popular view of girls like me. I hate spring and summer so much. The skinny girls get to show off their perfect bodies and I have to hide in ugly clothes made for grandmothers. It's like I don't even exist in the warmer months. I have D cups but can't get cleavage, even with a push up bra. So I have nothing that men find attractive at all.

And if this is off topic, f**k YOU. This is an effect that the shallowness of men and the media have on us worthless fatties. :cry:



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27 Apr 2011, 11:38 am

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I know my weight is a (but not the only) reason that a lot of guys at college don't even acknowledge my existence.


Completely false. You're very beautiful. I think it's because most guys are afraid of rejection. I know I am, even my neurotypical friend said he is as well, and has missed so many opportunities to ask women out. I've liked so many women but never had the guts to even talk to them.

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Hi Erisad,

My guess is that if you were to go to a Broadway show, it is likely that you would look more beautiful than if I saw you buying groceries or visiting the drug store. I forgot to include my initial point that it takes work to look beautiful--so people only look their best at special occasions, like going to shows or parties.


Where do you come off saying this? If a girl is beautiful she's beautiful no matter what she wears, whether she has makeup on or not. I think girls typically look better without makeup.

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I work hard everyday in a vain attempt to look beautiful. I skip meals, bust my ass at the gym and wear make up, hoping that someone will think I'm beautiful enough to earn their love. There are lots of women like me who just want to be pretty just like the girls that have legions of men yearning for them. Some of us just want the acceptance of one man in their lives.


You don't have to work at anything, you're already beautiful. You have a beautiful face, beautiful eyes, and a very attractive body. In other words, you're hot. :)

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Erisad you are beautiful already, without any of the makeup or fancy clothes or exercise. knowing and embracing that truth will draw people to you. for real. loving yourself as you really are, as well as you can (nobody is perfect, and we all have some insecurity) is a worthwhile exercise and will bring you great happiness. but you need to really believe that you are worth it, and i can't force you to see it.


I cannot agree more.

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I shouldn't have to wait until I'm older to be beautiful. Beauty is supposed to be a gift to the youth and goddamn medication ruined it for me, making me a social pariah for being the only plus size girl in my class at age 10. I feel like my youth has been wasted by being so big. By the time I'm thin, I'll be too old and preoccupied with paying off my loans that I won't have time to go out and meet people. College was my chance to meet someone without the pressure of my family being on him, now it's too late. Until I move out, I won't be able to date at all.

I probably wouldn't care what the trojan troll thinks if it wasn't the popular view of girls like me. I hate spring and summer so much. The skinny girls get to show off their perfect bodies and I have to hide in ugly clothes made for grandmothers. It's like I don't even exist in the warmer months. I have D cups but can't get cleavage, even with a push up bra. So I have nothing that men find attractive at all.

And if this is off topic, f**k YOU. This is an effect that the shallowness of men and the media have on us worthless fatties. :cry:


You don't have to wait to be beautiful, you already are. You were just born that way. You have an attractive body and men find that attractive. And what self respecting man would say no to D's? :) You are not worthless, you're a wonderful person. Please don't be so negative on yourself, because none of it is true.


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27 Apr 2011, 11:47 am

If I'm beautiful, then why am I always alone? Surely men would be throwing themselves at me if I were, right? Not literally although it sometimes can be. Why am I constantly being told that I need to lose weight? Why am I never good enough for the world I live in? What's so attractive about stretch marks and cellulite? Nothing, that's why they're edited out on the magazines. :cry: