women have it harder(coming from a male)

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Which doesn't explain all of those average married guys.



As a woman, who indeed used to be quite, I am quite certain that you are the one who is wrong.




I can't get women for free (and of course, it's because of my negative attitude and lack of confidence lol)....what makes you think I could get them to pay me?
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Who said women?



Wow...and I'm the insensitive one? They commit suicide because of how women treat them.
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People who commit suicide are responsible for their own actions, or lack there of and have no one else to blame but themselves for not seeking counseling and treatment for their depression. And I reject your notion that "they commit suicide because of how women treat them," perhaps some men do but a blanket statement such as the one you made would not be accurate. Men commit suicide ultimately for the same reasons women do; untreated depression, and that depression can be due to a variety of reasons.



And they also in fact commit more actual crimes. The vast majority of men in prison are not in prison for sex crimes. They are in prison for theft, assault, murder, vandalism, or drug possession.



I considered it quite a prestigious job for a teenager or young adult. Working part time at most other jobs I was qualified for at the time, I could only earn $270 per week before taxes. But pizza delivery guys made over $100 a night in tips plus their hourly wages. They brought in over $670 a week before taxes.



There is a difference between a field dominated by one sex and a field dominated by one sex that is hostile to the idea of the presence of the opposite sex. As an executive assistant, I highly doubt you would have been subject to workplace hostilities, harassment, or possible sexual assault simply because you are a male. I am pretty sure the same is true for social work. I've had many male social workers and they always seemed well liked by their colleagues and clients/patients. Most of the children they saw were boys who really looked up to them and they were always very welcome in their work environment.

Government jobs don't care what sex you are. There is no affirmative action. Those programs ended years ago, and if a woman gets a job simply because she is attractive, is that her fault she is attractive or her boss's fault for being incompetent?



And you were identical to this woman in every way with the exception of your sex? I don't think so.

I'm going to be perfectly honest. I don't think the root of your problem has anything to do with the fact that the human species is divided into two different sexes and you happen to feel you got the short end of the deal because nature made you a man. I think if you were a woman you'd be just as miserable, because your problem is actually that you have AS and still have a relatively limited range of social skills, and probably clinical depression that needs treatment.

I also think a woman could go to the ends of the Earth to help you, and be as nice as humanly possible to you and it still wouldn't be good enough. You would still find some reason to hate women.

how long have you been on teh internets? if you can't prove your theory it's worthless in an argument.



did you expect that your degree and a pair of balls would be enough to get the job over that woman? have you had a chance to compare your resumes, experiences, skills and strengths? what makes you think that you were a better candidate?

Well based on my usual attire of male clothes I usually assume if a guy approaches me he either is intrested in me as a person or wants a ciggerette(yes when you live in a city it is not uncommon to have people bumming cigs).

Just so you know depression can be a very serious mental illness and suicide is a pretty big issue. I am female and when I attempted suicide no one had a clue I was thinking about it because I did not say a word to anyone. I did not seek counseling or treatment because I did not want to bother anyone with my problems and did not really know how to approach anyone about how I was feeling. So don't assume all guys refuse to seek treatment and all females do seek treatment.

there are males who seek treatment and there are females who don't....I might also add I am still severely depressed and though I have not attempted suicide again I have certianly thought about it. And since counseling and anti-depressants failed and I cannot afford either of them I don't really get any counseling or treatment for it.

How about quit with the freaking stereotypes and ignorance.

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I'm sorry that happens to you. I want to clarify what I meant, because I don't want you to assume that ALL women ALWAYS assume that they are being approached based upon their looks. I think it is accurate to say that we are usually approached for our outward appearance ( or rejected for the same reasons.) Now, I wouldn't mind being approached if they guy made it apparent up front that he was responding to something intelligent that I had said, or mentioned the art work I was working on. The guys that annoyed me, were the ones who thought that I would be flattered if they started the convo with sexual innuendos, making me feel like a cheap slut.

So, if you are approaching a reasonably intelligent woman, always make it clear why you are initiating with her. I remember a guy who made a good impression on me when I was 18. He gave me a book that he thought that I would like. I was pleased and touched, but unfortunately I was not at all attracted to him. Yet his approach really impressed me. He said not one word about my appearance and that was a great compliment, IMO.

Hartz, how dare you not put out. He gave you a book! A BOOK!! !






Yes but if you don't find someone attractive then you don't find them attractive. Where some very negative men go wrong is not getting that attraction should be there as well and it's a double standard if a man himself knows that he only approaches women he finds attractive meanwhile degrading women who don't fall for men that woman doesn't find attractive.

So it turns into:

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[like some idealist WP members Mode (ie. hyperlexian, Tea...etc)]

But what if he was a poetic man with a wonderful personality? Then he has a chance to be accepted by her [/idealist]


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LOL

poor delusional guy.

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lulz i love this thread.

I've seen it happen IRL; it just requires gold chains, a pencil mustache, and lots of Phatfarm or Fubu used to go a long way. Puerto Rican or Pacific ethnicity tends to help. If you aren't a 'fat cat' though the odds of making your weight work for you are slim, no pun intended.

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well i do understand alot of it has to do with my looks since i dress mostly for comfort and not for appeal, and im quickly judged as an unattractive person (or doesnt care about their appearence) becuz of that, so theres no need to be sorry

its just sometimes i think women immediately assume a guy is simply wanting to get in their pants and thats all they want...its an issue one of my friends has alot with men and becuz of it she constantly doesnt see the guys who are just interested in her(and beleive me theres alot)......and only believes that women are truely sincere henece y she decided to become Bi (i know thats not it goes for all Bi ppl but i know its why she went that way) and it just makes me wonder how many other women and men screw themselves over by making assumtions that people arnt truely interested in THEM and not just their sex

That is so true. The negative types think that if they have pushed all the right buttons, women should damn well put out, dammit!

I never said all guys refuse to seek treatment or all female do seek treatment. SadAspy presented the argument that more men commit suicide than women in an attempt to support his claim that men have it harder. However it's not a valid argument because suicide is something one commits against themselves and that one person commits suicide, or attempts to, and another person does not, is not a valid indicator of how difficult one's life actually is because different people choose to deal with life difficulties in different ways.

A depressed woman is far more likely to seek professional treatment than a depressed man, and frequently depressed men will not seek treatment even at the prompting of their wife, girlfriend, or mother. Further, when men to attempt to commit suicide, they tend to be more successful than women because they tend to choose more efficient methods. For example, a man is more likely to shoot himself in the head while a woman is more likely to swallow a bottle of pills.

My stance remains that this is not an inequality that can be blamed on anyone but the perpetrators and so is not a valid supporting argument of SadAspy's claim.

True, but it certainly shows that men's life isn't as rosy as the OP trying to paint, that's why I used this argument too when I replied to him, both lists are incomplete.

Also, when people here say "X have it easier", I think they're referring mainly to the dating scene, and not to all aspects in life.