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19 Nov 2011, 12:08 pm

I can't drive and my family doesn't own any cars.

Just saying... You're not alone there.



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19 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm

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Learning how to drive,

i can't drive.

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going to prom,

i didn't go to prom.

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first kiss,

yes i did have this.

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having real friends,

i did not have those.

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dating,

yes i did date.

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graduating from HS,

i graduated when i was 33.

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and going to college.

i went when i was 27 (yes, before my high school diploma). it is not too late if that is what you want to do. if you don't want to do it then don't worry about it.

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There's tons of other stuff as well. Stuff other people take for granted because it comes so naturally for them.[/b]

you need to understand that you are on an aspie board surrounded by people with similar struggles. at your age i was living in the projects, was stealing toilet paper, and had to shortchange my bus fare to get to work. i had a different set of problems, but like you i also had some things going for me.

i know what you're thinking... that you don't have anything going for you. but you do... you've got a roof over your head, a family that cares for you, and food on the table. you have your health, and you have a gift with the written word***. you are young and you have a choice to change your entire life if you are brave enough to try.

you said before that there is no reason to wash yourself because the house is so dirty so you will smell anyway. well, there are free places that can help you to get it clean if the job is too big for your family. churches, charities, social services agencies, etc can assist you. use the google and make a call, or even anonymously call your city or town's general referral line (usually community services has a switchboard).

i know you also said your sister is scared from past experiences (PTSD?) and has a problem at night, and that must be contributing to the general problems in the house too. she needs help so that her nighttime issues can be helped, and she has emotional needs that are too big to be ignored. it's more than you can really help her with, even though it seems like you are doing everything you can to be there for her. if she is not already seeing a doctor or therapist, she could benefit from a free clinic of some kind to get support.

the thing is that... yes, things are very hard for you right now and your situation is difficult. but i think it may help you to ease up the burden and improve your environment first of all so that you don't feel surrounded by a deep hopeless funk. help your family and get your surroundings cleaned up and you may start to feel a little more hopeful.


***take notice that some people who are better educated and supposedly smarter than you on WP can hardly write as well as you.



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19 Nov 2011, 12:54 pm

I said it and I'll repeat again: MR20, you are quite eloquent and you write well. Not that the level of writing skills always reveals someone's education, but I honestly thought you were highly educated.



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19 Nov 2011, 1:20 pm

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You do set unrealistic expectations for yourself, you think all your problems can be solved by being less ugly or less weird but thats not true.

Not all but quite a few can.


If you gave up on everything, why are you posting here whining about them? If you gave up you won`t care, but you obviously care! So you haven`t given up.

You also stated that there are no positive sides to you, but there are. I can point one out easily! Your writing is very easy to read and easily understandable! Even for someone who doesn`t have English as his mother-tongue. Maybe you should try writing a book about your everyday struggles and try to sell it. (Yes people will read it)

I wish people would stop saying this. Anyone can write decently if they halfway paid attention to english classes in elementary. Heck my 10 year old niece can write pretty well. I don't really consider that impressive.


Me, just like you has no remarkable "features". I maybe the top student, but the school i`m on is one of the lowest levels of education in the Netherlands.

Dude I couldn't even get past the 9th grade WHILE in special ed. I'd consider being near the top in anything (positive) at school is impressive.

There isn`t much things that are pretty big that you can (realistically) achieve on or before your age (25)

There are a lot of things; Learning how to drive, going to prom, first kiss, having real friends, dating, graduating from HS, and going to college. There's tons of other stuff as well. Stuff other people take for granted because it comes so naturally for them.



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Just because it doesn`t come easy for you doesn`t mean you should quit trying. All you`re doing is whining on the internet while you could be out there making something of your life.

Stop being ignorant and go do something, take small steps and take NOTHING for granted.
Sure SOME people may take it for granted but A LOT don`t. Your view on the world is not in sync with reality.


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19 Nov 2011, 1:41 pm

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I'm tired of being ugly and undateable (not a word, don't really care). I'm tired people (male and female) rubbing it in my face about their "dates" or hookups. I'm tired of being slow and stupid, and not knowing how to have a conversation and keep people interested.

I'm tired of being an uneducated, mentally ill bum that no one respects or views as their equal.

I'm tired of not having the skills and wherewithal to take care of myself, (can't drive, doesn't bathe and change clothes regularly) so I'm probably going to have to live off SSI and welfare for the rest of my life.

I'm tired of not having any friends and having both genders (mostly females) repulsed by me. I'm tired of not being normal. I'm so f***ing sick and tired of feeling lonely, bitter, depressed, and suicidal all the time.

Man I just I feel like taking a sledge hammer or an axe, and tearing through one of the walls inside my room.

What's so maddening and frustrating is that I can't change any of this crap. I'm basically stuck this way until I'm dead, or at the rate I'm going, commit suicide.


Well I know kind of how that feels.......I am not in your exact situation but I am quite depressed so I know how it feels to be tired of it all. Sorry I don't have much advice on how to feel better as for not driving though are there buses or any sort of public transportation? I don't drive because I can't afford a car and I would get too anxious driving in traffic so its probably better if I don't. I think its pretty understandable how you feel.



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19 Nov 2011, 3:47 pm

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Well, I've given you advice numerous times.

Anyway, my last advice is. What can you change? What is in your power to change? If you can find something, anything in your power that you can change to be the way you want, do it, regardless of how trivial it seems. For me anyway, I can't solve my various social issues and general "weirdness" very easily, so instead of trying super hard to fix an almost unfixable problem, I instead put forth my effort into working out, which then raised my self image. You have to figure out what you have the power to change, even if it's trivial, and change it.

Really though, the fact you're in a "black" neighborhood pretty much is 90% of your problem. If you can find like, an anime club or something at a college in your area, you'd probably make some friends there. Bathing would help, but there's other people in anime clubs that don't bathe. Bathing is always a plus, though, hint hint.

But yeah, change what you can, and don't concentrate on what you can't. To an extent, though, some people are more driven than others. Helen Keller would be an example, she obviously had it much harder than any of us on this messageboard, and she managed to defeat her problems.

I'm a terrible motivational speaker, huh?


I don't think I'd do well around college people. They expect you to be intelligent and educated, both things I'm not. They also expect you to appear and act halfway normal, have a bunch a friend, and hook up a lot, (which is all that goes on in college apparently) needless to say none of those thing apply to me.

Also, I don't think there are any clubs for that stuff around here, at least not near where I live.


1. People go to college to get educated.
2. There are all types of people in college. In fact a good chunk are on the spectrum.
3. Some people at college have a bunch of friends and are there for the social aspect, others have few, if any friends and are there for the educational aspect.
4. The whole time I was in college I never once "hooked up", nor did I attend any parties.

I don't think you are as dumb or hopeless as you would like to think you are. I think you are just afraid of failure. Or, maybe you are also afraid of success. What if you took a shower, put some clean clothes on, and went out there to a club or an event one day, or a place you had never been to and had always wanted to see? What if you enrolled in a class at a community college and you did well and you liked it? What are you afraid of?


I'm afraid of people. I'm afraid of the pressure of trying to fit in and be accepted. I have to change the way I act, talk, and try to mask my lack of intelligence and knowledge. And even then it only works for a short while, then they'll start treating me the same other people have in the past.

I told myself long ago that I would stay locked in my house, away from people, rather than get made fun of, used, humiliated, and talked down to. I won't take any of that crap anymore.



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19 Nov 2011, 3:54 pm

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MR20 the place you live, do you own, rent or are you guys squatters?

Do you have any of these things: electricity, natural gas, heating oil or pressurized water. How many hours a day do you have these things?
Are you hooked up to a sewer system or septic tank?
Do you have a bath tub?
Do you have a shower?
Do you have a hot water heater, what kind of heater is it?


My Grandma is renting.

I haven all the thing above except for gas/hot water.



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19 Nov 2011, 4:00 pm

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i know what you're thinking... that you don't have anything going for you. but you do... you've got a roof over your head, a family that cares for you, and food on the table. you have your health, and you have a gift with the written word***. you are young and you have a choice to change your entire life if you are brave enough to try.

It's really really hard for me to see my situation that way.


i know you also said your sister is scared from past experiences (PTSD?) and has a problem at night, and that must be contributing to the general problems in the house too. she needs help so that her nighttime issues can be helped, and she has emotional needs that are too big to be ignored. it's more than you can really help her with, even though it seems like you are doing everything you can to be there for her. if she is not already seeing a doctor or therapist, she could benefit from a free clinic of some kind to get support.


My sister has been struggling with bed-wetting ever since she was little, the incident didn't cause that. And she has been going to doctor regularly, for meds and therapy.




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19 Nov 2011, 4:02 pm

MR20 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
MR20 wrote:
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Well, I've given you advice numerous times.

Anyway, my last advice is. What can you change? What is in your power to change? If you can find something, anything in your power that you can change to be the way you want, do it, regardless of how trivial it seems. For me anyway, I can't solve my various social issues and general "weirdness" very easily, so instead of trying super hard to fix an almost unfixable problem, I instead put forth my effort into working out, which then raised my self image. You have to figure out what you have the power to change, even if it's trivial, and change it.

Really though, the fact you're in a "black" neighborhood pretty much is 90% of your problem. If you can find like, an anime club or something at a college in your area, you'd probably make some friends there. Bathing would help, but there's other people in anime clubs that don't bathe. Bathing is always a plus, though, hint hint.

But yeah, change what you can, and don't concentrate on what you can't. To an extent, though, some people are more driven than others. Helen Keller would be an example, she obviously had it much harder than any of us on this messageboard, and she managed to defeat her problems.

I'm a terrible motivational speaker, huh?


I don't think I'd do well around college people. They expect you to be intelligent and educated, both things I'm not. They also expect you to appear and act halfway normal, have a bunch a friend, and hook up a lot, (which is all that goes on in college apparently) needless to say none of those thing apply to me.

Also, I don't think there are any clubs for that stuff around here, at least not near where I live.


1. People go to college to get educated.
2. There are all types of people in college. In fact a good chunk are on the spectrum.
3. Some people at college have a bunch of friends and are there for the social aspect, others have few, if any friends and are there for the educational aspect.
4. The whole time I was in college I never once "hooked up", nor did I attend any parties.

I don't think you are as dumb or hopeless as you would like to think you are. I think you are just afraid of failure. Or, maybe you are also afraid of success. What if you took a shower, put some clean clothes on, and went out there to a club or an event one day, or a place you had never been to and had always wanted to see? What if you enrolled in a class at a community college and you did well and you liked it? What are you afraid of?


I'm afraid of people. I'm afraid of the pressure of trying to fit in and be accepted. I have to change the way I act, talk, and try to mask my lack of intelligence and knowledge. And even then it only works for a short while, then they'll start treating me the same other people have in the past.

I told myself long ago that I would stay locked in my house, away from people, rather than get made fun of, used, humiliated, and talked down to. I won't take any of that crap anymore.


So you decided to just let it be and don`t try to chance it? Then all hope is indeed lost.


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19 Nov 2011, 4:05 pm

Basagu wrote:
MR20 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
MR20 wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
Well, I've given you advice numerous times.

Anyway, my last advice is. What can you change? What is in your power to change? If you can find something, anything in your power that you can change to be the way you want, do it, regardless of how trivial it seems. For me anyway, I can't solve my various social issues and general "weirdness" very easily, so instead of trying super hard to fix an almost unfixable problem, I instead put forth my effort into working out, which then raised my self image. You have to figure out what you have the power to change, even if it's trivial, and change it.

Really though, the fact you're in a "black" neighborhood pretty much is 90% of your problem. If you can find like, an anime club or something at a college in your area, you'd probably make some friends there. Bathing would help, but there's other people in anime clubs that don't bathe. Bathing is always a plus, though, hint hint.

But yeah, change what you can, and don't concentrate on what you can't. To an extent, though, some people are more driven than others. Helen Keller would be an example, she obviously had it much harder than any of us on this messageboard, and she managed to defeat her problems.

I'm a terrible motivational speaker, huh?


I don't think I'd do well around college people. They expect you to be intelligent and educated, both things I'm not. They also expect you to appear and act halfway normal, have a bunch a friend, and hook up a lot, (which is all that goes on in college apparently) needless to say none of those thing apply to me.

Also, I don't think there are any clubs for that stuff around here, at least not near where I live.


1. People go to college to get educated.
2. There are all types of people in college. In fact a good chunk are on the spectrum.
3. Some people at college have a bunch of friends and are there for the social aspect, others have few, if any friends and are there for the educational aspect.
4. The whole time I was in college I never once "hooked up", nor did I attend any parties.

I don't think you are as dumb or hopeless as you would like to think you are. I think you are just afraid of failure. Or, maybe you are also afraid of success. What if you took a shower, put some clean clothes on, and went out there to a club or an event one day, or a place you had never been to and had always wanted to see? What if you enrolled in a class at a community college and you did well and you liked it? What are you afraid of?


I'm afraid of people. I'm afraid of the pressure of trying to fit in and be accepted. I have to change the way I act, talk, and try to mask my lack of intelligence and knowledge. And even then it only works for a short while, then they'll start treating me the same other people have in the past.

I told myself long ago that I would stay locked in my house, away from people, rather than get made fun of, used, humiliated, and talked down to. I won't take any of that crap anymore.


So you decided to just let it be and don`t try to chance it? Then all hope is indeed lost.


You're right, sadly.



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19 Nov 2011, 4:06 pm

Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


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19 Nov 2011, 4:10 pm

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Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


idk I guess this is my way of venting and blowing off some frustration.



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19 Nov 2011, 4:11 pm

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Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


idk I guess this is my way of venting and blowing off some frustration.


You do realise you`re insulting/annoying a lot of people in the process?


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19 Nov 2011, 4:17 pm

Basagu wrote:
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Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


idk I guess this is my way of venting and blowing off some frustration.


You do realise you`re insulting/annoying a lot of people in the process?


You do realize I don't care right?

If you don't like what I'm saying you don't have to open, read, and/or reply to anything I post.



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19 Nov 2011, 4:20 pm

MR20 wrote:
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Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


idk I guess this is my way of venting and blowing off some frustration.


You do realise you`re insulting/annoying a lot of people in the process?


You do realize I don't care right?

If you don't like what I'm saying you don't have to open, read, and/or reply to anything I post.


If you don`t care, why do you share it with us then? What you just said makes no sense whatsoever.


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19 Nov 2011, 4:32 pm

Basagu wrote:
MR20 wrote:
Basagu wrote:
MR20 wrote:
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Then why are you still posting? You`re slightly hinting that you want help.


idk I guess this is my way of venting and blowing off some frustration.


You do realise you`re insulting/annoying a lot of people in the process?


You do realize I don't care right?

If you don't like what I'm saying you don't have to open, read, and/or reply to anything I post.


If you don`t care, why do you share it with us then? What you just said makes no sense whatsoever.



What I meant is that I'm going to keep talking about the way I feel about myself, life, etc regardless if some people here are annoyed by me or what I say.