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16 Dec 2011, 10:58 pm

Maybe I've just been lucky that I've known a lot of cool girls. None of them had 'types' but they got excited by a connection.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:00 pm

"connections" i can understand. "safety"... not so much. i am accustomed to taking care of myself in most ways.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:01 pm

fraac wrote:
Maybe I've just been lucky that I've known a lot of cool girls. None of them had 'types' but they got excited by a connection.


It's never good to make sweeping statements about entire groups of people just based on people you've known.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:01 pm

Then how could any of us talk about anything?



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16 Dec 2011, 11:03 pm

fraac wrote:
Then how could any of us talk about anything?

it's pretty easy to do it without making generalisations.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:03 pm

fraac wrote:
Then how could any of us talk about anything?


You could cite actual peer-reviewed research when making flat statements about half the planet.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:04 pm

I'm not certain that it is. Reasoning from the specific to the general is my style, and I thought it was the style of most of us.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:05 pm

fraac wrote:
I'm not certain that it is. Reasoning from the specific to the general is my style, and I thought it was the style of most of us.

not really. some do and some don't. i started a thread about generalisations in PPR once.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:06 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
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Then how could any of us talk about anything?


You could cite actual peer-reviewed research when making flat statements about half the planet.


You want peer-reviewed papers on how you can tell if you're not her type?



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16 Dec 2011, 11:07 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
fraac wrote:
I'm not certain that it is. Reasoning from the specific to the general is my style, and I thought it was the style of most of us.

not really. some do and some don't. i started a thread about generalisations in PPR once.


I honestly thought it was the archetypal autistic way of working stuff out. Start with details, find a pattern, get more general. Actually I'm quite sure of it. And for that I CAN cite papers.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:17 pm

fraac wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
fraac wrote:
Then how could any of us talk about anything?


You could cite actual peer-reviewed research when making flat statements about half the planet.


You want peer-reviewed papers on how you can tell if you're not her type?


I'd like peer-reviewed papers before someone says "Women do/act/think in X way", fullstop.

Thinking in a specific - > general style has nothing whatsoever to do with basing one's generalizations off personal experiences.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:22 pm

It sounds like you're annoyed because you disagree with my conclusions, because what you're saying now makes no sense. I generalise from my personal experiences and observations because that's the only possible way to learn about the world.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:26 pm

fraac wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
fraac wrote:
I'm not certain that it is. Reasoning from the specific to the general is my style, and I thought it was the style of most of us.

not really. some do and some don't. i started a thread about generalisations in PPR once.


I honestly thought it was the archetypal autistic way of working stuff out. Start with details, find a pattern, get more general. Actually I'm quite sure of it. And for that I CAN cite papers.

if you want to approach it that way (which is not 100% true, but for the sake of argument), then the autistic method would be to collect massive amounts of information on a subject, then gain an encyclopedic knowledge of that subject. however generalisations would not necessarily come into it. it would remain a collection of specific knowledge.


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16 Dec 2011, 11:29 pm

{gives chemistry degree back to prestigious college, clearly having not earned it}

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16 Dec 2011, 11:31 pm

Generalisation would occur whenever there were enough connected nodes on the network. I think it would happen automatically. Abstraction is fundamental to autistic learning.



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16 Dec 2011, 11:34 pm

fraac wrote:
Generalisation would occur whenever there were enough connected nodes on the network. I think it would happen automatically. Abstraction is fundamental to autistic learning.

no, not necessarily. many of us may have problems with generalisation, which can be seen when such aspies have problems with knowing when to apply a specifically learned rule or procedure to a new situation. for example, some aspies could be taught to make coffee in a certain coffee maker but not be capable of applying that knowledge to all other coffee makers.


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