How do you feel about make-up?

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14 Jan 2012, 9:32 pm

i think personal preference looks like this:

"i like men in makeup"
"my face looks better with foundation"
"fresh-faced women turn me on"


i tend to think social pressure looks like this:

"heavy makeup is skanky"
"men should not leave the house without eyeliner"
"light makeup is not attractive"


but maybe it's just me who sees a difference in phrases like that.


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14 Jan 2012, 9:34 pm

I'll have to take your word for it since I never feel pressured into something unless someone flat out tells me what to do. :lol:


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14 Jan 2012, 9:35 pm

Something just occurred to me: I think the "societal pressures" have a lot to do with the culture where one lives, too. For example, in my neck of the woods I would feel almost no pressure to "fix myself up" if I were in Vermont, but if I were in New York City, I almost couldn't do enough (and it would be way, way more than I'm used to in Massachusetts). This "pressure" applies to dress and ... etiquette, too, I think. Local custom, really.



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14 Jan 2012, 9:40 pm

mv wrote:
Something just occurred to me: I think the "societal pressures" have a lot to do with the culture where one lives, too. For example, in my neck of the woods I would feel almost no pressure to "fix myself up" if I were in Vermont, but if I were in New York City, I almost couldn't do enough (and it would be way, way more than I'm used to in Massachusetts). This "pressure" applies to dress and ... etiquette, too, I think. Local custom, really.


Hmm... yeah I suppose so. I'm largely oblivious to social pressure, though, and when I do encounter it I get defiant. :oops:


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14 Jan 2012, 9:47 pm

I don't wear make up. I don't like the way it feels on my skin. And, whatever you put on you skin, goes into your body almost the same as if you ate it.



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15 Jan 2012, 7:25 am

mv wrote:
I'm much older than you, so my experiences are different. I never wore foundation, ever, when I was younger, and my skin was awful (my biological father had cystic acne and I take after that side of the family, I was only spared the worst because I'm a girl and girls have less testosterone). I agree with you, makeup just looks ridiculous when applied over poor quality skin.

They had *nothing* to treat bad skin when I was younger, other than oral tetracycline (yes, they actually gave you antibiotics) which didn't really work all that well. Bad skin, we know now, is largely a hormonal thing, which they also dared not regulate in young people. My sister takes after the perfect skin side of the family, and she can count the number of blemishes she had as a kid on one hand (and she wore very heavy makeup all through high school :roll: ). Now that we're in our 40's, though, she still has perfect blemish-free skin, but she has wrinkled more quickly than I have around the eyes and mouth (places where you don't put foundation). She's two years younger, but people think she's older than me. :shrug: Genetics.

Most makeup application, especially if you live in a city with pollution and you expect to be outside for any portion of time, starts with a good moisturizer that's right for your skin type and has a good SPF. Foundation is only applied on top of that, so it's not getting into the pores as much as you might think. Diligent removal of makeup at night is also key, and maybe what you're thinking of is people who don't have that rigor. {If you left hummus on your face all day and night, you'd have a problem, too, but hummus doesn't stick as well. :wink: }

All in all, I salute your preference of the fresh-faced look, just know that not everyone is capable of it, and that not all skin issues are "treatable". I didn't have access to Accutane, for example, until I was in my 30's, and even then they make you take BCP because Accutane is toxic to fetuses (so they mess with your hormones when you're trying to treat a skin condition! Ridiculous!). There was no Pro-Activ, etc. Yet we were still held to the same stringent standards, lookswise, that people are today.


It sounds like there wasn't much information or awareness about the long term affects of skin treatment back then, I have heard of hormonal skin treatments having permanent side effects on some people, I guess taking drugs that affected hormones would have been considered dangerous and illegal since people didn't have the same amount of awareness as they do today. People didn't realize smoking was harmful in the 19th century until they started to find that in studies that it was detrimental to the lungs and health.

I agree, I think you are right about the standards of beauty being high in the 1960's, I find the female actresses in the 1960's to be more attractive than female actresses in movies today. If anything, I think the standards for perfection and beauty may have even been higher in the sixties so I guess make up was something that was expected on women. I think make up can be attractive but I don't think it's practical on a day to day basis but some people do require it daily.

I don't think there's a standard everyone is set to but young people tend to want to look as good as movie stars or celebrities in magazines when they don't realize that the celebrities in the magazines are airbrushed and have tons of expensive make up skillfully applied on their faces. I would understand if they needed make up because they felt self conscious or uncomfortable about skin problems and I think make up can be tasteful if applied in an artistic way.



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15 Jan 2012, 3:07 pm

It depends on who is wearing it and how much. Some make up can look nice. I've never been a fan of mascara though, some girls wear so much they look like raccoons.


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