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10 Jan 2013, 8:36 pm

@periphery, He hadn't been drinking at all yet that night. He didn't know if he'd have to drive me home - the only reason I didnt go home was that I wanted to visit my other friend who wasn't there yet. What he said was cruel, especially knowing I was already insecure, but I'm as over it now as I'm ever going to be.

Edit: I just found out one of our mutual friends moved away and now the only chance I might get to see him may be at these people's bonfires.


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10 Jan 2013, 11:05 pm

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It was a general piece of advice, and I only saw one guy in this thread who routinely gives women condescending, sh***y advice, or talks about women as if they're all the same person.


Who?



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10 Jan 2013, 11:31 pm

Please don't attack other members. I don't want this thread closed for going off topic. :/


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10 Jan 2013, 11:49 pm

MCalavera wrote:
meems wrote:
It was a general piece of advice, and I only saw one guy in this thread who routinely gives women condescending, sh***y advice, or talks about women as if they're all the same person.


Who?


No point in going there.

The OP has resolved the issue and the conversation seems to be over this point. I responded to JM by PM, so this thread could pretty much be done with. There's no one else I need to respond to as of this post so I'm out of the thread now.


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10 Jan 2013, 11:54 pm

Well, if you have an issue with my posts, I'd like to have it brought to the light. At least privately. So send me a PM if you do.



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10 Jan 2013, 11:59 pm

Is it really resolved though? I saw the OP as getting really upset over something small, then punish him and withhold affection & sex until she partially-recovered from the rage of the incident. A pound of punishment for an ounce of crime. And I see the same thing happening again should he make some small mistake again, as all people inevitably do.

What are you going to do if/when he offends you again? Are you going to go into another rage like the last one? Plans to do things a little differently? Calm and rational communication will prevent some of these problems from happening but all couples step on each others' toes from time to time... Harsh punishment for tiny offenses is a great way to kill relationships slowly and painfully.

Hope you can work out something more effective! :thumright:



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11 Jan 2013, 12:27 am

Do you understand what the word rage means in terms of emotion?

I don't think there's any reason to keep picking apart everything the OP told us. She said it's resolved and I'm pretty sure she said other than this issue their relationship is good.

Why keep picking at her?


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11 Jan 2013, 12:31 am

EmoGlambertAspie, an aside, I just noticed that Harvey Milk quote in your sig and nearly exploded. Harvey Milk is one of my top ten departed heroes.

Hm. I don't know if the term departed is used for people who died so long ago but I think it works.

Anyway SQUEEEEE!! !! !


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11 Jan 2013, 1:19 am

@BlueMax He knows not to again, I discussed it with him earlier after finding out about my friend moving and that bonfires there might be my only chance to see him since I live almost another whole hour further from him. He agreed that if I go back he'll stay with me and think before he says anything about my anatomy. And props to whoever said they'd tell them to "go have fun in a guy's ass," I told him if he and the other guy ever say anything like that again they can both go f*ck a guy's ass because that should be tight enough for them (in those exact words, but in a light tone).

@Meems Thank you! He is one of mine too. I am straight but heavily involved in gay rights and am historian of my university's gay-straight alliance.


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11 Jan 2013, 1:58 am

I know it feels like I'm "picking", but I don't see any resolutions here other than "don't @$%^#$%^ tick me off again or there'll be hell to pay."

The anger remains. The problem remains.

Believe it or not, I have your own best interests at heart because I've seen how this unresolved anger and pattern of hostility just destroys relationships and families. I don't want that for you or anyone!



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11 Jan 2013, 2:09 am

@BlueMax The reason I withheld intimacy was that his remark made me feel like he didn't want it anyway and thought I was gross. If I feel self conscious I don't want to be intimate with anyone. I told him earlier that I still feel like I'm huge and saggy down there and he said "You need to stop thinking that. It's false." I told him, "No it isn't. It's the gross, ugly truth," then said "Well I guess if you say so I'll believe you".


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11 Jan 2013, 2:57 am

The queer community definitely appreciates our straight allies. We wouldn't be so far along in getting equal rights without people like you supporting us. It's super to hear you're involved!


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11 Jan 2013, 3:02 am

BlueMax wrote:
I know it feels like I'm "picking", but I don't see any resolutions here other than "don't @$%^#$%^ tick me off again or there'll be hell to pay."

The anger remains. The problem remains.

Believe it or not, I have your own best interests at heart because I've seen how this unresolved anger and pattern of hostility just destroys relationships and families. I don't want that for you or anyone!


Why do you assume she's still angry or has a pattern of hostility because she had one single disagreement with her boyfriend that she's clearly stated they've worked out.

Dude you do this to people all of the time, not every female is your ex-wife. Stop trying to fix a problem that isn't even in this girl's life.


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11 Jan 2013, 3:12 am

As I stated, the only reason I withheld intimacy was that he made me feel self conscious and instead of apologizing or denying I was loose and saggy after he said it he changed the subject to driving me home or me supposedly being inappropriate in front of the couple's child. I felt like if he was going to insult my body and thought it was gross he wouldn't miss it much anyway. I talked to him about it earlier and he convinced me enough that I'm not "gaping". I made a post at the bottom of the previous page detailing the conversation, I'm too lazy to quote it.


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11 Jan 2013, 3:58 am

Tip for guys - Most womens sexuality is mental, if she feels unattractive she's not going to want to boogy. So if you WANT to boogy with your girlfriend, make sure she knows that you think she's HAWT. You're much more likely to get a little rumpy-pumpy (worked for my ex, and he's not the handsomest guy in the world!).

That being said, implying that you think womens genitals are ugly (which includes girlfriends!) will NOT make her want to be initmate. She'll just feel like crud.

This has been a Kezzstar public service announcement :D


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11 Jan 2013, 8:49 am

Kezzstar wrote:
Tip for guys - Most womens sexuality is mental, if she feels unattractive she's not going to want to boogy. So if you WANT to boogy with your girlfriend, make sure she knows that you think she's HAWT. You're much more likely to get a little rumpy-pumpy (worked for my ex, and he's not the handsomest guy in the world!).

That being said, implying that you think womens genitals are ugly (which includes girlfriends!) will NOT make her want to be initmate. She'll just feel like crud.

This has been a Kezzstar public service announcement :D

you just won the whole darn thread. of course not all women are like that, and of course i think many men are like that too, but it's an important key to the OP's reaction and subsequent withdrawal. it's entirely logical.


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