Feeling ugly, flat chested and that I'm not good enough

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26 Jan 2013, 7:48 am

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If all women walked around topless, it wouldn't be long before nobody paid any attention at all. It would quickly become a case of "if you've seen one, you've seen them all".


No, women still drool over muscled male chests at the beach as we speak.


I think it is more the general physique and looks.


and you think men usually admire big boobs on an ugly face?


Why models are desired despite their small breasts then?



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26 Jan 2013, 7:49 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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If all women walked around topless, it wouldn't be long before nobody paid any attention at all. It would quickly become a case of "if you've seen one, you've seen them all".


No, women still drool over muscled male chests at the beach as we speak.


I think it is more the general physique and looks.


and you think men usually admire big boobs on an ugly face?

aka "butterface"


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26 Jan 2013, 11:03 am

We're going to see a play at the university later. I want to see him and visit him and whatnot, but I don't want him to see or touch my bare chest. If he wants to ogle other women and fantasize about them so much he can go on the Internet and do that. I really don't care today.


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26 Jan 2013, 12:14 pm

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Okay. So earlier, my boyfriend and I were with some friends of ours and my one gay friend asked my boyfriend if women should be allowed to go around topless (long story). My boyfriend said they should be wherever men can, but that they "shouldn't be mad if [he checks] them out." This hurt me deeply. He knows I'm self conscious of my small breasts. We got in a small argument and he went to the school rec center, then came back for the event I'd been helping with. We apologized to each other but I'm still upset. I feel smaller than I did before and like mine aren't enough for him. Like I am not enough for him. He wants to leer at other women's breasts - and not in porn. He wants to see them in real life. I feel so repulsive and like a child I could cry.

I don't know. I guess I just needed to vent.


I think you misunderstood his comment. What he said is very sensible. Its like if you found a guy's biceps to be extremely attractive and all guys covered them ... would you not also think that if a guy went around showing them that he should be aware girls will stare at his biceps?

Let's be honest here now.. this is the same reason why girls like to wear tight pants and revealing clothing. To attract attention. To feel sexy.

What he said has nothing to do about your size nor that he wants to look at other girl's breasts because yours are not good enough. Its just normal in guys to look.

Also, don't feel bad about your breast size. Guys like small breasts as much as they do huge ones. People have preferences. I for example, do not like big breasts or even 'normal/standard' sized ones. I prefer small ones. I find them very aesthetic and they just 'go' with the beauty that is a woman's body. When I see porn or even women on the street with those huge boobs I just feel repulsed. It simply doesn't fit with my sense of beauty.

Finally, consider this as an advantage of small breasts: When you have children they WILL get bigger after the breastfeeding is over. Women with normal or large sized breasts tend to suffer a lot after having children because of the increased size , back pains, etc. You on the other hand, would go from small to medium or 'normal' sized and be the envy of all other mothers because your figure improved. Keep that in mind and be sure to rub it this in their faces ;)

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The fact he wants to ogle other women, compare mine unfavorably to theirs and wish he was with them bothers me. He said if women walked around topless he'd check them out.

Where are you getting that fact from, if not from what he said (because he did not say any of that)?


This needs some clarification. Does he tell you that he compares you to them and finds your lacking? If so, dump him now.

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Well isn't that what men do when they check out other women?


No we don't. Its instinctive to stare at breasts. We do not compare them we simply go 'whoa nice' but thats it. You can expect any male of the species to glance at breasts at least every 10 seconds in a crowded place. Now, if he leered (stare at them for more than 10 seconds) then he probably has an excessive interest in breasts (some guys just get turned on by breasts nothing else).

If he is comparing you to theirs and tells you then he isn't worthy of your time. that is emotional abuse and that is not someone you want to be with. If he stares at boobs too much for too long he may have a boob fetish or something.

But if he just glances at boobs a lot ..that's just being a guy.



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26 Jan 2013, 12:43 pm

How would he like it if I looked at men's crotches all the time and compared them to his so his came out last? That's what I'm upset about He wants to look so he can fantasize.


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26 Jan 2013, 12:51 pm

I'm new to this topic and being a guy my views may not be helpful but this needs clarification above all else:

Does he tell you that he compares you to them?

Because he if doesn't then you're being insecure and you need to address that or any relationship with any guy will not work. If it's true then dump him, as soon as possible and start rebuilding your self-confidence.



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26 Jan 2013, 12:52 pm

Once again you're assuming a million things from a small action/statement based on your intense fears.



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26 Jan 2013, 12:55 pm

@BlueMax No, I am making an educated guess based on the habits of his gender.


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26 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm

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@BlueMax No, I am making an educated guess based on the habits of his gender.


So you're being insecure and over-reacting to something that hasn't happened? Ugh....



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26 Jan 2013, 1:03 pm

That's sure assuming the worst of the male gender now isn't it? ;)

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26 Jan 2013, 2:21 pm

I don't really care if a guy I am with, looks at other women, as long as it is not staring and he doesn't make any comments about it with me. We all know it's part of human nature to look. It would only evolve to a problem, if he decided he wanted to go and bed all those women he might find attractive, or was crude about it. But to assume he doesn't look? That's being in denial. Just like I can look at a guy's something or other, and think they are handsome, or errrrr...nice biceps, like someone had previously mentioned.

I have learned with time and experience, to feel secure about my image. It wasn't always like this. But once I become confident and self-assured, all other women's physical attributes were just seen for what they were. If the man I am with, expressed he wanted someone with bigger, or smaller boobs? Then he knows where the door is, and "please don't slam it on your way out!" But oddly enough, once you become self-confident, the man you are with is usually not bothered to go elsewhere.

And before I get jumped on, I know there are exceptions to every rule. :)



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26 Jan 2013, 2:24 pm

@aspiesandra If a woman was topless I know he'd stare. He's a guy.


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26 Jan 2013, 2:58 pm

If a woman was topless, *I* would stare.

And I'm not a guy.



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26 Jan 2013, 3:03 pm

Well, what you said about not wanting the guy to stare applies even in this situation. I don't think it's too much to ask that he not leer at other women, fantasize about how much nicer their boobs are than mine, etc. It bothers me BECAUSE I know mine aren't very good - so why would he want mine if everywhere he looked there were DDs?


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26 Jan 2013, 3:23 pm

maybe because he likes the package that comes with your breasts?



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26 Jan 2013, 3:32 pm

He does but still. I don't like feeling like I'm not good enough in any way, that he wants to fantasize about some woman he doesn't even know with tits like basketballs.


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