02 Apr 2013, 10:48 am
Ratae wrote:
Men need to be the perfect Channing Tatum, 6'2, chiseled abs, cute face, good jaw, masculine, and if they don't have that, they will die alone and unloved. You never hear women lust over a short, emasculate, weedy, spectacled Asian male. There is only one type of guy women lust for: it is the men that are tall, handsome and masculine.
Total rubbish. I mean just think about it, how many men fit into that profile? Now think about how many men do find a partner. Big difference. Besides being 'ugly' doesn't mean you're unsuccessful because you're 'ugly', if you weren't and were still unsuccessful you'd just find something else to blame it on.
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02 Apr 2013, 11:11 pm
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Women always say that men are the shallower sex and judge women based on appearance, while women judge men based on other things. This is manifestly false. Everyone judges potential romantic partners on their appearance. This is a simple fact. The difference, however, is that there are a diverse selection of physically acceptable women, and that doesn't happen for men. Some men like chubby women, some men like skinny, some like tall, some like short, some like blondes, some like brunette, some like big butts, some like ehtnic, some don't, etc. But with women, this does not exist. There is only one perfect man.
That is so much BS. So many of my friends like different types of guys than I do, it's not funny. Different women like different types of men. Now, there are going to be some types of guys who just aren't going to be lusted after because of their body. Just like there are certain types of girls who aren't going to be either. Sure, there may be a small fetish population that likes them but there are some who just are not what is considered "hot". However, this is a very, very small portion of the population that would be put in that "never, no way" category. Different people have different tastes. I have friends who like that light blonde hair, blue eyes, hairless, surfer look. I cannot stand it. If I were single and a guy who did look like that asked me out, I would have to like him in spite of his type. That doesn't mean I wouldn't acknowledge that he was very good looking, he just wouldn't be good looking to me. See what I'm saying?
So if a girl is ugly, that's okay. She is beautiful by some guys' standards. A girl that I think is beautiful, you might think is ugly, and vice versa. So if you're an ugly woman, all you need to do is wait for a guy who is turned on by women who look like you. But men don't have that option.
Then why do we constantly see all these ugly people hooked up with somebody? You see, all the time, ugly people married. Sometimes they are married to other ugly people, sometimes they aren't. Chances are they don't think each other is ugly though.
Men need to be the perfect Channing Tatum, 6'2, chiseled abs, cute face, good jaw, masculine, and if they don't have that, they will die alone and unloved. You never hear women lust over a short, emasculate, weedy, spectacled Asian male. There is only one type of guy women lust for: it is the men that are tall, handsome and masculine.
Oh now honey, I only recently found out who Channing Tatum is, when I watched 21 JumpStreet. Yes, he's very lustable and so was his character in that movie. That doesn't mean I would actually want to be in a relationship with him. That only means that I think he's very, very hot. He's nice to look at, but I have no idea how nice he would be to talk to, hang out with, hold my hand in a crisis, let me cry on his shoulder, put up with me when I've got PMS, etc. Just because we think these guys are very hot does not mean that's all we like, not at all. Men buy porn that always has hot girls in it. You only see porn with real looking women in it when it's either fetish porn or very cheap porn. That doesn't mean that men don't desire regular looking women, it just means that they don't buy porn with us in it, just like most of us wouldn't buy porn with Lewis Black in it instead of Channing Tatum, but there are quite a few that would marry Lewis Black over Channing Tatum (regardless of incomes here, I'm talking looks not money).
Also, extremely hot guys are somewhat intimidating. I dated one once. He was very nice to look at but I never was able to relax around him. I was always worried about how I looked because I wanted to look as good as he did. There is a big burden to look your best at all times, and even better than your best, when you are with one of those types of guys, even if he thinks you are hot the way you are, you don't so you aren't happy.
As for skinny little Asian men, I have a friend who does. She married two of them and basically only dates them. Not the buff Kung Fu movie ones, but regular guys. I never thought a one of them was hot at all but she did and I met a few and she always dates guys who are fun to be around without being obnoxious and overbearing (like some of those really hot guys tend to be).
Why do I wake up in the morning? A girl who struggles with her weight can still find love, because there are TONS of men who love chubby girls. She can lose weight and have even more guys interested. But are there any women who love chubby guys? Nope.
Oh yes there are, in the fetish community.
Are there women that lust for short, skinny guys? Nope.
Yep, in the fetish community.
I iused to be very skinny and short and girls were repulsed by me. So repulsed I used to get rejected and face hostile comments by female strangers. Now a short skinny girl is highly desired. Double standard right there.
Not a double standard at all. Men are overall, taller, bigger and stronger than women. As a group, not always individually. I've dated guys smaller than me, I'm tall and skinny. It's not a double standard because short and skinny is the size that fits into the traditional standard for women. That doesn't mean everybody likes either one of those though.
I'm not skinny anymore or obese, that was just my example. My point is, ugly men will always be second rate. So what's the point of getting up in the morning if you're as ugly as me?
That is so much BS. So many of my friends like different types of guys than I do, it's not funny. Different women like different types of men. Now, there are going to be some types of guys who just aren't going to be lusted after because of their body. Just like there are certain types of girls who aren't going to be either. Sure, there may be a small fetish population that likes them but there are some who just are not what is considered "hot". However, this is a very, very small portion of the population that would be put in that "never, no way" category. Different people have different tastes. I have friends who like that light blonde hair, blue eyes, hairless, surfer look. I cannot stand it. If I were single and a guy who did look like that asked me out, I would have to like him in spite of his type. That doesn't mean I wouldn't acknowledge that he was very good looking, he just wouldn't be good looking to me. See what I'm saying?
So if a girl is ugly, that's okay. She is beautiful by some guys' standards. A girl that I think is beautiful, you might think is ugly, and vice versa. So if you're an ugly woman, all you need to do is wait for a guy who is turned on by women who look like you. But men don't have that option.
Then why do we constantly see all these ugly people hooked up with somebody? You see, all the time, ugly people married. Sometimes they are married to other ugly people, sometimes they aren't. Chances are they don't think each other is ugly though.
Men need to be the perfect Channing Tatum, 6'2, chiseled abs, cute face, good jaw, masculine, and if they don't have that, they will die alone and unloved. You never hear women lust over a short, emasculate, weedy, spectacled Asian male. There is only one type of guy women lust for: it is the men that are tall, handsome and masculine.
Oh now honey, I only recently found out who Channing Tatum is, when I watched 21 JumpStreet. Yes, he's very lustable and so was his character in that movie. That doesn't mean I would actually want to be in a relationship with him. That only means that I think he's very, very hot. He's nice to look at, but I have no idea how nice he would be to talk to, hang out with, hold my hand in a crisis, let me cry on his shoulder, put up with me when I've got PMS, etc. Just because we think these guys are very hot does not mean that's all we like, not at all. Men buy porn that always has hot girls in it. You only see porn with real looking women in it when it's either fetish porn or very cheap porn. That doesn't mean that men don't desire regular looking women, it just means that they don't buy porn with us in it, just like most of us wouldn't buy porn with Lewis Black in it instead of Channing Tatum, but there are quite a few that would marry Lewis Black over Channing Tatum (regardless of incomes here, I'm talking looks not money).
Also, extremely hot guys are somewhat intimidating. I dated one once. He was very nice to look at but I never was able to relax around him. I was always worried about how I looked because I wanted to look as good as he did. There is a big burden to look your best at all times, and even better than your best, when you are with one of those types of guys, even if he thinks you are hot the way you are, you don't so you aren't happy.
As for skinny little Asian men, I have a friend who does. She married two of them and basically only dates them. Not the buff Kung Fu movie ones, but regular guys. I never thought a one of them was hot at all but she did and I met a few and she always dates guys who are fun to be around without being obnoxious and overbearing (like some of those really hot guys tend to be).
Why do I wake up in the morning? A girl who struggles with her weight can still find love, because there are TONS of men who love chubby girls. She can lose weight and have even more guys interested. But are there any women who love chubby guys? Nope.
Oh yes there are, in the fetish community.
Are there women that lust for short, skinny guys? Nope.
Yep, in the fetish community.
I iused to be very skinny and short and girls were repulsed by me. So repulsed I used to get rejected and face hostile comments by female strangers. Now a short skinny girl is highly desired. Double standard right there.
Not a double standard at all. Men are overall, taller, bigger and stronger than women. As a group, not always individually. I've dated guys smaller than me, I'm tall and skinny. It's not a double standard because short and skinny is the size that fits into the traditional standard for women. That doesn't mean everybody likes either one of those though.
I'm not skinny anymore or obese, that was just my example. My point is, ugly men will always be second rate. So what's the point of getting up in the morning if you're as ugly as me?
Looks just get your foot in the door. Develop some quirky look thing, or some personality thing that's attractive. Learn to play drums and get in a band, even a garage band. No, I'm serious. For real. I have seen some of the hottest girls I know fall all over themselves for some butt ugly, antisocial, filthy, half drunk guys because they were drummers!! !! ! I do not understand this, but rock musicians can get away with a lot that other guys can't and you don't even have to be a successful rock musician to do it. just learn to play something, get in a band and get some bookings where you play for free to open for the paid bands at small clubs. You will be so surprised that it's not even funny. For real. Or learn to play something and start hanging out with musicians. Really. I've had crushes on some musicians that when I look back at how they looked I wonder what I was thinking, but I do remember just a sort of vibe they had, even Chuck, the geeky socially awkward chubby overly hairy guitar player with the overbite. He had girls all over him and he couldn't even look at girls when he talked to them.
For real, I feel you on not being the ideal or even close to it. I'm very far from the ideal for girls, and at almost 49 years old, I know that will never change, but I didn't settle for just what came along that would talk to me. I developed a personality that was outgoing and actually interesting to guys. I had a friend who was a guy who helped me so very much with this. He taught me how to talk to guys when I wanted them to like me in a romantic way and not in a "buddy to hang out with" way. Unless you are hideously ugly and have some sort of horrible facial deformity or something, your problem isn't as much your looks as it is how you play it. That's the only thing I can tell you, and I do hope you get to feeling better about this, because I'm telling you the truth. Learn to talk and walk and act like a hot guy. Say the things they say (not the overly obnoxious come on lines though, just the confidence and the fact they can sit at a bar and talk to buds as well as go up to women to talk, they aren't ANXIOUS TO find somebody). Dress like the kind of guy you want to be, don't put out so much effort that it looks like you went to too much trouble, but look and smell like you took a little time with yourself. Smile and then look away. Don't be afraid to go up to a girl and smile and say hey and ask her name. You don't need a clever line. In fact, you can say "Hi, what's your name? I'm <yourname> and I don't have a clever line at all" and smile. That works more than you think. My point is that when you act like you are the sh*t, you display the confidence that you are, you have friends with you that are somewhat popular and who act like you do, then people will think "maybe I'm wrong in my initial judgement, I obviously was wrong" and they will treat you like the guy you want to be. That's what I did. I acted like a hot girl.
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03 Apr 2013, 12:29 pm
BlueMax wrote:
FMX wrote:
Ahaseurus2000 wrote:
Get yourself a power suit, practice confident walking and put on an alpha male persona. It won't matter how short or ugly you are then
Which meaning of "power suit" are you referring to here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_suit
LOL! My first thought was mechanized combat armour, THEN something with a bright red or yellow tie.
Yep, mine too. I reckon someone could look pretty damn "alpha" in an exoskeleton combat suit.
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Even shallow women are about more than looks. If that spectacled Asian man were wealthy, he could have anyone he wanted.
Ah, but how would they know he was wealthy?
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03 Apr 2013, 12:33 pm
FMX wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
FMX wrote:
Ahaseurus2000 wrote:
Get yourself a power suit, practice confident walking and put on an alpha male persona. It won't matter how short or ugly you are then
Which meaning of "power suit" are you referring to here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_suit
LOL! My first thought was mechanized combat armour, THEN something with a bright red or yellow tie.
Yep, mine too. I reckon someone could look pretty damn "alpha" in an exoskeleton combat suit.
Tyri0n wrote:
Even shallow women are about more than looks. If that spectacled Asian man were wealthy, he could have anyone he wanted.
Ah, but how would they know he was wealthy?
Some women are good at judging proxies of wealth: manner clothing, cars, etc.
03 Apr 2013, 2:25 pm
luvsterriers wrote:
A woman may want a better looking man if she's looking to have children with him. Who wants to make love to someone as ugly as Tim Curry example, when women would want a man as handsome as Tom Cruise?
Tim Curry is ugly?
03 Apr 2013, 2:40 pm
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06 Apr 2013, 12:54 pm
appletheclown wrote:
Men who are strong, smart, and treat women like queens are usually the best fathers you can find.
And yet, my wife STILL tossed me aside like a used tissue... I officially have NO idea what the ladies want.
...so I'll just be my goofy ol' self and hope someone eventually wants that.
06 Apr 2013, 1:49 pm
BlueMax wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Men who are strong, smart, and treat women like queens are usually the best fathers you can find.
And yet, my wife STILL tossed me aside like a used tissue... I officially have NO idea what the ladies want.
...so I'll just be my goofy ol' self and hope someone eventually wants that.
Then stop blaming yourself. If it was her, and you know you were being a good man to her and being loyal and all that, you still got it!
If she tossed you aside like a used tissue, then you know treating ladies like a gentleman would will still work. You don't have to go all butler on a girl, but treating a girl special should be required in any marriage, if not all women. It sounds like you are blaming yourself for what happened, and even if it was a little you, you still have time. Some of the marriages that happen latest in life are the most tightly bound marriages out there.
06 Apr 2013, 2:16 pm
appletheclown wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Men who are strong, smart, and treat women like queens are usually the best fathers you can find.
And yet, my wife STILL tossed me aside like a used tissue... I officially have NO idea what the ladies want.
...so I'll just be my goofy ol' self and hope someone eventually wants that.
Then stop blaming yourself. If it was her, and you know you were being a good man to her and being loyal and all that, you still got it!
If she tossed you aside like a used tissue, then you know treating ladies like a gentleman would will still work. You don't have to go all butler on a girl, but treating a girl special should be required in any marriage, if not all women. It sounds like you are blaming yourself for what happened, and even if it was a little you, you still have time. Some of the marriages that happen latest in life are the most tightly bound marriages out there.
YESS!!^^^^ My marriage failed but I'm not blaming myself and I'm not going to change how I am and how I treat my partner. I will be the same way I've always been and I WILL find someone who deserves it cause he sure didn't. I'm not worried about my age one bit!
Just because she tossed aside what she had didn't mean what she had wasn't wonderful. She just didn't appreciate it.
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