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12 Mar 2007, 2:00 pm

You are welcome to PM me, if you think I can help out in advisory capacity, although I can't guarantee anything I say would work perfectly, since I am removed from the situation geographically and can't know all the sides of it, etc. (To make an informed assessment with)

Does their actions impact you in other ways socially? If it is just their disapproval you are getting, chalk it up to experience, as the consequences of certain actions, to know not to do that type of thing in the future (which I am sure you know well by now, but I'm just saying...it kinda comes with it) and ignore it as much as you can.

If their actions are impacting other people's opinion of you, then it is really those people you need to appeal to, or try to change opinions of. From a woman's point of view - it is a scary world out there, and you are probably right, you probably won't change the minds of the girls who felt offended to start with (I'm not sure how serious the actions were - verbal or touching?). Their survival instinct has kicked in and they are likely to stay wary of you personally.

The good part is it's high school so in a while you will be someplace else.

NEW SLATE! :)



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16 Mar 2007, 3:50 pm

New slate indeed! 8)

Beginning Monday 3/19, here is my schedule for Trimester 3.
US History A
Lit/Comp
Math Study
Art Field Study

Will update on Monday.



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16 Mar 2007, 4:46 pm

Go to your teacher or your principal and tell them that these girls are bullying you!



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16 Mar 2007, 6:22 pm

I'm editing this whole thing. If this girl who accused you of stalking is walking with them, you need to put a halt to this right now. They are setting you up. Not one doubt in my mind. They probably think you weren't "taken care of" like they wanted the first time so now they are setting you up to try to get you kicked out or whatever. DO NOT approach them in any way. Start taking copious notes about what they are doing, who is doing it and when they are doing it. List everyone around when it happens. Make a copy and take it to the Principal and a counselor. Make sure to keep a copy.

The rest of them can think what they want about this, but I've hung out with many NT girls and they are setting you up bigtime. Do not play their game. If you can get a camera, get one and document it. If not, I'd tell the Principal that you have requested the security tapes at the store whether you did or not. Those tapes have the proof that they are following you.

Was there a police report of that incident in Oct? If there was, I'd report them to the police as well when you have everything written down.

They are going to try to bump into you next. You make sure you never go anywhere alone and stay far away from them.



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17 Mar 2007, 5:07 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
Go to your teacher or your principal and tell them that these girls are bullying you!


I got laughed at the first time so why should I?



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17 Mar 2007, 5:14 pm

[quote="ZanneMarie"]If this girl who accused you of stalking is walking with them, you need to put a halt to this right now. They are setting you up. Not one doubt in my mind. They probably think you weren't "taken care of" like they wanted the first time so now they are setting you up to try to get you kicked out or whatever. DO NOT approach them in any way. Start taking copious notes about what they are doing, who is doing it and when they are doing it. Make a copy and take it to the Principal and a counselor. Make sure to keep a copy. Was there a police report of that incident in Oct? [quote]

Come to think of it, I was told by another NT girl to stop taking notes wherever I was back in May so note-taking is a bad idea.
There was absolutely no police report of the October incident just the fact I was legally cleared. Socially, no. There are two NT girls {one is playing double agent} I know who could help me out with this. New trimester starts on Monday so I hope NONE OF THEM are in any of my classes.

I know this is a little OT but are there any films that are similar to the mess I'm in now?



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17 Mar 2007, 8:02 pm

It reminds me of Heathers, Jawbreaker, The In Crowd to name a few.

I don't care what that NT girl told you about taking notes, take them. Tell her to shut up if she says something. Those little twits are lucky I don't live near you or they would wise up real quick. You write down every single detail and do not stop if they see you. No matter what do not be alone with them and stay in open view of other people at all times. Did you tell your parents about this? These girls will escalate this if they don't get the reaction they want. You need to be ready. Even if it's other geeks and freaks, keep people around you at all times.



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17 Mar 2007, 8:13 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:
It reminds me of Heathers, Jawbreaker, The In Crowd to name a few.

I don't care what that NT girl told you about taking notes, take them. Tell her to shut up if she says something. Those little twits are lucky I don't live near you or they would wise up real quick. You write down every single detail and do not stop if they see you. No matter what do not be alone with them and stay in open view of other people at all times. Did you tell your parents about this? These girls will escalate this if they don't get the reaction they want. You need to be ready. Even if it's other geeks and freaks, keep people around you at all times.


Actually it could have been friendly and quite sensible advice (about avoiding openly taking notes). Alienating a potential friend by telling them quite bluntly to be silent when they may have been trying to be helpful might not help things much. He (AnonymousAnonymous) clearly does not wish his actions to be misconstrued and the note taking would not really count as documentary evidence separately to his oral testimony anyway - still one witness with his word agaisnt theirs. Can you (AnonymousAnonymous, that is) persuade anyone to support your testimony? If they (school authorities - principal etc.) are dismissing the idea that girls can be bullies, either to each other or to males, they are not very experienced with children or adolescents rather.


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17 Mar 2007, 8:41 pm

The reason you take notes is not to wipe out the individual aspect of the testimony. It is to document details at the time they happen. The reason for this is because it is much better than trying to remember later on. Notes, especially detailed ones, always hold more weight than any verbal testimony later on. Ask any employer in a lawsuit. And yes, any witness is better than none.



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17 Mar 2007, 8:51 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:
The reason you take notes is not to wipe out the individual aspect of the testimony. It is to document details at the time they happen. The reason for this is because it is much better than trying to remember later on. Notes, especially detailed ones, always hold more weight than any verbal testimony later one. Ask any employer in a lawsuit. And yes, any witness is better than none.


Fair points, particularly with regard to the recording of detail while fresh in the mind. I still think there may be valid concerns with this method, but perhaps you know best.


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17 Mar 2007, 9:51 pm

Write in some kind of code, and if anyone asks what it says, say you're writing a novel.



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18 Mar 2007, 11:22 am

I'm no expert, but my gut instinct is that if they're friends with the girl that accused you, they ARE setting you up for something. So yes, don't go anywhere alone (the more witnesses, the better), and keep some kind of record of when & where they're following you (but be nice to your friend) - it may be good to also take notes of where you go. Do not approach them for any reason and avoid physical contact at all costs. If there is anyone older or in a position of authority you trust (an older friend, teacher, etc) talk to him/her asap, say you think they're trying to set you up for something (never say you're being bullied or harassed because society tends to think females can't do that to males - say that you're concerned about being set up, not concerned about the 'surveillance' in and of itself). if you can, travel by car and not on foot - if you can't, ride a bike (to minimise chances of their bumping into you). If you decide to complain to the school authorities again, it may be a good idea to request an appointment in writing (or for your parents to ask for one if you're a minor), but it may only be worthwile if you have a 'respectable' witness (an older adult who is not your relative - but bear in mind any witness is still better than none). avoid routines - the more predictable your movements are, the easier it's for them to set you up. this particularly applies on foot. always take a phone with you.
on the bright side, once you graduate you'll probably never have to see them again.


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19 Mar 2007, 11:50 am

To be honest with everyone, I'm starting to get tired of talking about this and new trimester just started today so right now it's best if talk the NT girls that I know to see if they can help.




Write in some kind of code, and if anyone asks what it says, say you're writing a novel.

Like anyone would believe that!



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19 Mar 2007, 12:08 pm

Hope it goes better this semester!



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19 Mar 2007, 11:34 pm

Hope it goes better, Anon!

I stopped posting for several days. Caught up in my own dramas and then a painful migraine took me out of action.
But I wanted to check in and see how you are.

If you notice more of the same after a few days of this trimester, go talk to the principle or one of the counselors. Just tell them you want to let them know what's up because you don't want to cause trouble yourself and you're not sure what's going on. It's fine to talk some NTs for suggestions and to document or not is your business, but a low-key heads' up to someone in charge covers your backside more definitively (to hell w/ the teacher that laughed).

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