17 Jun 2015, 5:20 pm
18 Jun 2015, 1:35 am
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon 
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
18 Jun 2015, 7:24 am
314pe wrote:
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
I imagine it's a bit worse everywhere these days, but the lion's share of it is probably in the U.S. since we've got a rep for having tons of arrogant/stuck-up people here(along with using up a lot of the world's resources), but only having a small percentage of the world's population.
That website I quoted in the other post has a legit-lookin section with a large number of success stories from men who supposedly became "players" shortly after leaving U.S. borders, whereas they were celibate for many years before that.
I personally have no interest in leaving this country though, especially since weed is gonna be legal here in just 2 weeks.
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18 Jun 2015, 11:51 am
314pe wrote:
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
In Russia it's even worse probably. At least in US or Italy I wasn't rejected immediately after starting a conversation every time
18 Jun 2015, 12:07 pm
18 Jun 2015, 1:19 pm
Andreger wrote:
314pe wrote:
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
In Russia it's even worse probably. At least in US or Italy I wasn't rejected immediately after starting a conversation every time
Yeah but do the majority of those Russian women secretly assume that "almost every guy is a creep, until he proves otherwise"? I doubt they do, and that common-mindset here is one of the main reasons why the U.S. probably has it the worst when it comes to this.
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18 Jun 2015, 3:29 pm
Venger wrote:
Andreger wrote:
314pe wrote:
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
In Russia it's even worse probably. At least in US or Italy I wasn't rejected immediately after starting a conversation every time
Yeah but do the majority of those Russian women secretly assume that "almost every guy is a creep, until he proves otherwise"? I doubt they do, and that common-mindset here is one of the main reasons why the U.S. probably has it the worst when it comes to this.
Not exactly. They assume - most of them, not all of course - that "almost every guy is a creep, until he proves he has large amount of money". That is a fact unfortunately - amount of gold diggers among girls here is terribly high. And I say it while having here an income significantly higher than average.
Money is the only point for most of marriages here, and when they ends - relations and marriages are ending as well. For me it's worse than barbarism.
18 Jun 2015, 6:51 pm
Andreger wrote:
Venger wrote:
Andreger wrote:
314pe wrote:
Venger wrote:
This makes me wonder if the semi-recent trend of more men being "excluded" from intimacy-with-women is mostly just a U.S. phenomenon
No it's not. It's the same in Europe. I don't see why would it be different. My colleague is NT, really buff, well educated, has an ok job, owns a car, but has trouble getting into a relationship. I've got many similar examples.
In Russia it's even worse probably. At least in US or Italy I wasn't rejected immediately after starting a conversation every time
Yeah but do the majority of those Russian women secretly assume that "almost every guy is a creep, until he proves otherwise"? I doubt they do, and that common-mindset here is one of the main reasons why the U.S. probably has it the worst when it comes to this.
Not exactly. They assume - most of them, not all of course - that "almost every guy is a creep, until he proves he has large amount of money". That is a fact unfortunately - amount of gold diggers among girls here is terribly high. And I say it while having here an income significantly higher than average.
Money is the only point for most of marriages here, and when they ends - relations and marriages are ending as well. For me it's worse than barbarism.
If a woman is effectively exchanging access to her vagina for money, a place to live, food, and presents....is she a prostitute?
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