Do racial preferences make you a racist?
- every girl i find attractive where i live, i find out later that she has european blood. "they always look way better than the pure european thing" i mean irish or german are too white for my taste.
- i feel attraction towards some black women. esp those who have the body to die for. smaller waist sexy butt/legs etc
- most beautiful women i have seen were lebanese, eastern european, and mixed ppl in brazil.
- i have never felt attracted to anyone from india/arabs from gulf
I think people naturally gravitate toward people who look similar to them. It's not racist.
That being said, sometimes people get together with partners who look completely different from themselves as well. Studies have shown that black men are generally considered the most attractive men on the planet and asian women are generally considered the most attractive women on the planet. That doesn't mean that black men are going to always going to get all the girls or that asian women are going to get all the guys. People are all different and they are attracted to different things.
Yes, if you reject someone just because they're of certain race, then yeah, this is racism, and it's often associated with classicism as well. Whites are associated with the West and wealth, other colors? are associated with poverty and 3rd world; and all races are blamed on this thinking, even many non-whites claim to like only whites.
I don't buy it that this a something "ohhh I can't control it....boo hoo. I am no racist". Sorry, I don't buy it.
I agree with this article's author:
Often, what I want to respond is:
1) There are other races besides white and black.
2) You’re not attracted to black people? ALL black people? You’ve met all of them, and not a SINGLE PERSON does it for you? Man, you must be exhausted after traversing the ENTIRE GLOBE searching for just ONE black person that you could get it up for! Do you need to lie down?
But this kind of racism is so deep-seated, so ingrained, that people genuinely believe their attractions are chemical. That these “preferences” are out of their hands.
Of course, that’s not the case. This isn’t biological, it’s societal. It’s institutional.
We are not the passive victims of our own internalized biases. We have governance over our actions. As author and psychologist James Giles writes, “That is not to say that romantic attraction is fully under our control, but only that it is not fully beyond our control.” So when are our love lives going to start reflecting that? Studies have shown that we are attracted to what we know and are used to, but as Deborah Ward writes, “Repeated exposure to certain people will increase our attraction toward them.” This means that a conscious change in behavior will impact subconscious desires.
Of course it is hard to parse out what turns you on due to pheromones and what turns you on due to cultural influence, but even allowing that both play a part is a huge step in the right direction.
http://www.theestablishment.co/2015/10/ ... tchmaking/
"Unfortunately, most people feel like attraction is out of their control. Like it’s something they’re born with and nothing can be done about it. People say to me, “Ah . . . I actually only want to date women. I know it’s awful, but I’m just not attracted to men.
Often, what I want to respond is:
1) There are other genders besides men and women.
2) You’re not attracted to men? ALL men? You’ve met all of them, and not a SINGLE PERSON does it for you? Man, you must be exhausted after traversing the ENTIRE GLOBE searching for just ONE man that you could get it up for! Do you need to lie down?
But this kind of sexism is so deep-seated, so ingrained, that people genuinely believe their attractions are chemical. That these “preferences” are out of their hands."
Do you see the problem with this logic?
If you can actively change your racial preferences, doesn't it stand to reason that you could also change other preferences the same way? Can a straight man also then change his preferences so he becomes attracted to other men? Can a person who prefers average-sized partners rewire their preferences in such a way that they become attracted to morbidly obese people? If not, why would racial preferences be any different?
I don't think these preferences are necessarily innate. I think they are a combination of an individual's biology and their exposure to the world around them. The fact that twins with identical genes can have different sexual preferences suggests to me that sexuality isn't fixed from birth.
A largely white media probably does have an effect on people's preferences, but in a country where white people are the largest racial demographic, there's no reason not to expect the media to reflect this. But at the same time, the media is far from the only influence, and preferences can be subject to quite extreme changes over time. I know my preferences are quite different now than they were 5 or 6 years ago. But I was a teenager back then, so I'd imagine my preferences won't undergo as big a change throughout any other time in my life (but I could be wrong about that).
I can only speak for myself, but I wouldn't have an issue dating outside my race. That said, there are certain races that I have a preference towards, and certain races that I can't see myself being attracted to. I don't see how race is different to any other preference.
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Race is not like gender - jeez why
you people always mix these two?
Your brain is attracted to the opposite sex (or to same, it depends), there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction.
I don't believe there's an innate neurological/biological component that makes you totally incapable to be attracted to another race - I believe it's mostly culturally fueld, classism and yes... subtle racism.
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Here, she said it best:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/11/rac ... re-racist/
It's 100% true, and it will hit a nerve on many of you.
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you people always mix these two?
Your brain is attracted to the opposite sex (or to same, it depends), there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction.
I don't believe there's an innate neurological/biological component that makes you totally incapable to be attracted to another race - I believe it's mostly culturally fueld, classism and yes... subtle racism.
If there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction, how is it that identical twins - people with the exact same genes and biological make-up - can vary in their sexuality? There are plenty of cases where one identical twin is attracted to members of the opposite sex, and one identical twin is attracted to members of the same sex. That couldn't happen if sexuality was ENTIRELY biological.
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you people always mix these two?
Your brain is attracted to the opposite sex (or to same, it depends), there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction.
I don't believe there's an innate neurological/biological component that makes you totally incapable to be attracted to another race - I believe it's mostly culturally fueld, classism and yes... subtle racism.
If there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction, how is it that identical twins - people with the exact same genes and biological make-up - can vary in their sexuality? There are plenty of cases where one identical twin is attracted to members of the opposite sex, and one identical twin is attracted to members of the same sex. That couldn't happen if sexuality was ENTIRELY biological.
Except that "identical" twins are rarely 100% genetically identical - that's a myth.
Still, there's a high rate of identical twins (more than 60%) who are concordant for homlsexuality, despite homosexuality makes about 1% of general population.
you people always mix these two?
Your brain is attracted to the opposite sex (or to same, it depends), there's a biological and neurological reason behind this attraction.
I don't believe there's an innate neurological/biological component that makes you totally incapable to be attracted to another race - I believe it's mostly culturally fueld, classism and yes... subtle racism.
People from different cultures and races have differ face structures. Aisans have more slanted eyes etc. if one didn't find slanted eyes attractive they'd likely not be attracted to Asians. That's not racist. Same as people will be turned off by certain accents. Some people won't find Irish or Germans attractive. Others may be highly attracted to them.
Racism is believing you're better then others because of their race. Not being attracted to someone has nothing to do with thinking your better then them.
I have the feeling this has to do with your past studies where you were rejected more by people from Europe and America?
I simply don't find most African women attractive. There's been a few I have. I'd only hesitate to date a African woman because I've seen backlash from the African community to mixed couples. I'd hate to be hated by her family. I don't get why many people are against mixed couples. I suppose they all fear it'll dilute their culture and community.
Sly is on the money here. I don't think any race of people I'm not interested in dating are lesser. I just don't generally find the distinctive features particular to some races attractive. But there are also features associated with other races that I do find attractive. In some cases, more attractive than their Caucasian counterparts.
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Saying that "I won't date people who are [insert race]" is racist.
Read the feminist article.
And not every of some "race" have this one looks feature that you may not like.
For example not all Asians have stalles eyes, ever seen Visaya Filipinas? They look caucasians at most. Not all blacks have big lips and wide nose, look at Kenyans ans Ethiopians.
No way you would find *all* women of an entire race as unattractive unless there's racism and prejudice at play.
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But to exclude dating an entire race or to exclusively include dating only one race is not. It's not ok.
That's like saying you would never date someone with brown eyes or that you only date redheads. It is that silly.
I don't think it's silly to say either of those things. People have the right to set their own standards for dating. They can do so as broadly or as narrowly as they please. If I want to exclude people with brown eyes from my dating pool, and only date redheads, who are you to say I can't do that?
Of course, people who make their dating pool that narrow are probably going to have a more difficult time finding someone that fulfils their requirements.
there is no accounting for taste.
sexual taste usually extends to phenotypes at large.
i think that if someone needs a particular mineral or vitamin that will replenish their health, they will seek foods that contain that mineral. for instance, cows that are deficient in calcium are often seen to be sucking the bones of other dead cows (after they have been denuded of flesh). the cow does not know why it is attracted to the bone, but it just is. it is a biological process that happens unconsciously.
when someone feels aroused by a particular phenotype, then it is probably because the pairing of their genes would make a very healthy baby, and not because of any conscious knowledge of their genetic compatibilities.
i, for example prefer slavic girls to all others. like russian ones and to an extent german and scandinavian ones, but i do not like asian girls because they seem different to me in a way that i do not feel aroused by. the chemistry is not there. they have flat faces and smell like soy sauce or something. i also do not like negro women because their hair looks wiry and their lips are too thick and i am not attracted to any shade of skin darker than a light tan. i like paleness.
but i do not consider asians or negros to be inferior to anyone else in the world in any way.
they can think in an interesting way and they can be good friends and i know that almost all of them are decent people.
i would put just as much effort into rescuing a negro woman with a bone through her nose in an african jungle, as i would rescuing any other person.
so "there is no accounting for taste". that also means that one can not be held to account for what appeals to them.
sexual taste usually extends to phenotypes at large.
i think that if someone needs a particular mineral or vitamin that will replenish their health, they will seek foods that contain that mineral. for instance, cows that are deficient in calcium are often seen to be sucking the bones of other dead cows (after they have been denuded of flesh). the cow does not know why it is attracted to the bone, but it just is. it is a biological process that happens unconsciously.
when someone feels aroused by a particular phenotype, then it is probably because the pairing of their genes would make a very healthy baby, and not because of any conscious knowledge of their genetic compatibilities.
i, for example prefer slavic girls to all others. like russian ones and to an extent german and scandinavian ones, but i do not like asian girls because they seem different to me in a way that i do not feel aroused by. the chemistry is not there. they have flat faces and smell like soy sauce or something. i also do not like negro women because their hair looks wiry and their lips are too thick and i am not attracted to any shade of skin darker than a light tan. i like paleness.
but i do not consider asians or negros to be inferior to anyone else in the world in any way.
they can think in an interesting way and they can be good friends and i know that almost all of them are decent people.
i would put just as much effort into rescuing a negro woman with a bone through her nose in an african jungle, as i would rescuing any other person.
so "there is no accounting for taste". that also means that one can not be held to account for what appeals to them.
Um you're insanely racist congrats. "Smells like soy sauce." What the f**k? And "negro women." They're black, Jesus f**k.
And yes, "racial preferences" as based in racism, because society at large tells us that lighter skin and other "white" attributes are preference. Why do you think lighter skinned black women are treated as more attractive than darker skinned ones? Do you think it's some random chance lol?
Racial fetishization exists too. It's also racist because you're only attracted to them because of their race and stereotypes you associate with them (like white men who are creepily obsessed with east Asian women, usually because of the submissive stereotype).
To claim that racial preferences aren't based in racism is incredibly f*****g stupid and irresponsible.
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