Loneliness
Even my friends, they just don't value deep conversation like I do. My best friend is capable of deep conversation however I am the much more talkative one and 99% of the time I 'lead' all of our conversations. He is short responses and brief type of guy (not because he isn't interested, that's just how he is due to also being an aspie) I am detailed and verbose (as if anyone couldn't already tell in the first place. XD).
Is it weird you make a 'career' out of it? No, I'd say not. Solitude and isolation seems to encourage us to think deeply and introspectively; it's natural. I mean if you don't have many people to talk to about 'interesting things' with that deviate from societies usual boring, generic 'small talk' and the few friends you do have aren't capable of it, then of course you'd be keeping these thoughts to yourself.
It's hard though, I know. It's like some...some sort of energy within you. I believe many people in this world are opinionated and like to hear their own opinions and are confident in them that they are right or correct. Even now I'm going into detail with this., because it;'s true. It feels good to express your inner thoughts, to get them off your chest. Just keeping everything inside negatively affects you when you want people to talk to about this stuff to.
You sound a lot like me. I never stop thinking. I get in trouble with small talk. I start thinking about other (more interesting) things and then drift out of the conversation completely. I need intellectual stimulation but it's hard to find others I can share my thoughts with. I find most people's thoughts and opinions kind of trivial and not very interesting. If I do open my mouth about something in my head I don't communicate it clearly enough and it goes right over people. Its annoying.
In groups I seem 'shy' when the truth is I am not shy, just quiet. I prefer to aproach others and usually only socialize if the topic interests me, in which the majority do not. I often just sit there staring into the distance, thinking deeply to myself while others might talk and socialize. I would rather actually speak to others in deep conversation but that's rarely possible.
It;s the only reason I do come across as shy - by comparison to the people I hang around.
Yea. Most people can't understand not wanting to talk all the time. They assume someone who doesn't talk all the time is timid or afraid to talk. It's really really stupid.
Even my friends, they just don't value deep conversation like I do. My best friend is capable of deep conversation however I am the much more talkative one and 99% of the time I 'lead' all of our conversations. He is short responses and brief type of guy (not because he isn't interested, that's just how he is due to also being an aspie) I am detailed and verbose (as if anyone couldn't already tell in the first place. XD).
Is it weird you make a 'career' out of it? No, I'd say not. Solitude and isolation seems to encourage us to think deeply and introspectively; it's natural. I mean if you don't have many people to talk to about 'interesting things' with that deviate from societies usual boring, generic 'small talk' and the few friends you do have aren't capable of it, then of course you'd be keeping these thoughts to yourself.
It's hard though, I know. It's like some...some sort of energy within you. I believe many people in this world are opinionated and like to hear their own opinions and are confident in them that they are right or correct. Even now I'm going into detail with this., because it;'s true. It feels good to express your inner thoughts, to get them off your chest. Just keeping everything inside negatively affects you when you want people to talk to about this stuff to.
You sound a lot like me. I never stop thinking. I get in trouble with small talk. I start thinking about other (more interesting) things and then drift out of the conversation completely. I need intellectual stimulation but it's hard to find others I can share my thoughts with. I find most people's thoughts and opinions kind of trivial and not very interesting. If I do open my mouth about something in my head I don't communicate it clearly enough and it goes right over people. Its annoying.
In groups I seem 'shy' when the truth is I am not shy, just quiet. I prefer to aproach others and usually only socialize if the topic interests me, in which the majority do not. I often just sit there staring into the distance, thinking deeply to myself while others might talk and socialize. I would rather actually speak to others in deep conversation but that's rarely possible.
It;s the only reason I do come across as shy - by comparison to the people I hang around.
Yea. Most people can't understand not wanting to talk all the time. They assume someone who doesn't talk all the time is timid or afraid to talk. It's really really stupid.
Yeah, the group I hang out with at school I am exactly this. The silent type for the most part but I have opened up a bit more and do socialize a bit more. Still, I do sometimes exchange odd looks with people of nearby groups, it's like they can sense I 'don't belong' with my acquaintances/friends that I hang around. I do try to ignore it and they are none of my concern but still, just interesting really.
I don't know how to overcome it, to not be the 'quietest' one in a group. It's not being the quietest that I dislike, it's being THOUGHT of as shy/timid/stuck-up/etc.
Only around really good friends can I be a lot more loud and extroverted and 'blend in' much better. Around most others however I uniquely stick-out very easily. Not that I'm complaining, but stilll.
And yeah, wish more people could value silence/a lack of talking for once.
I just want to thank all of my new friends on this forum! Thanks also for playing games with me; it really cheers me up a lot! ![]()
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That's good to hear. At least you enjoy using this website for socialization, right?
Me, I only socialize here because I'm practically forced too, but I do still also force myself to enjoy it. Like I've said in many posts I am more social aspie and enjoy real-life friendships more. But I've been going through some rough patches - I have two friends that live in another city and we usually keep in contact online, and I am planning to meet-up with them again sometime in the near-future, but it's been a while. I've got to try and reach out to them again. That, and my deadbeat dad has failed once again to keep his promise and hasn't shown up. He usually visits and takes me and my younger brothers and sisters out to do fun things. I like it because it gives me the chance to meet new people, or at least have fun outside of the house. But no, I don't have that either. Finally my ex-girlfriend broke up with me for the second and last time yesterday. But, I'll handle it. It's not like this has been the worst for me. Due to my consistent effort all year to make a social life for myself, I often do suffer a lot of hardships and failure. But whatever minor success I've had has been worth it in the end.
So, I'm having trouble understanding, you said you lack interest in a real-life social life but still feel lonely? Is it something of a paradox?
With me I highly value my solitude but at the same time deeply desire friendship. I think it's just I have too much solitude than what I actually want. At the same time, like I said way earlier, when I actually am around other people I might not actually enjoy their interactions. Most people are 'conformists' in the least-offensive way and I find it hard to converse with them - I might enjoy sitting with and socializing with the group I do at school, but they mostly talk of trivial or uninteresting topics so I don't enjoy it that much anyway. Paradoxes within paradoxes...
Yep, I'm a paradoxical girl. Even I really don't understand my loneliness sometimes.
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I seem to more emotional at night than during the day sometimes, but other times it's the other way round. Sometimes I just feel so sad and I cry a lot but I don't understand why at all. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Yeh, it's probably depression, and same here.
Seems even at school sometimes at random times I can feel sad inside and feel ligtbtears water my eyes. I try to control it and hold it back though. No on e notices anyway and I'd prefer it that way.
In the past I'd always hold back tears in public, but really let it out at home to try and appear 'brave' and in control of my emotons. But I've had times where I just broke down and couldn't hold back. Cried during class in front of my friend, not caring if others around me noticed or not, about something serious.
Well, my early preteens and early teens were pretty rough because of family matters, and before I started high school we had to move from the lovely country house that I've lived in for 90% of my life to the town house that I live in now, so I guess it's like I've been running ever since [kind of like the Doctor, now that I think about it, although my adventures aren't nearly as interesting half the time].
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Hey..I'm damn lonely sometimes but I think I just embrace that loneliness as a part of me..
I thought I can tell you something..but thought again it might not be helpful for you..
which made me say nothing so far.
I just let life flow as it goes...
These years in my life, I thought, are the times prepared only for myself with nobody around.
I cherish this hours and I'm afraid that I feel like this time flows too fast...
I believe we need time to know oneself better focusing on just being alone,
while enjoying companionship with one's interests..in your case such as fantasy books..drawings..etc..
For me life is too short to live in the middle of people and die,
I need time being alone for several years more..I feel never enough..I need more of loneliness.
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"Embrace the glorious mess that you are."
What an interesting philosophy, Drawyer. [and I'm not just saying that!] One of the aspects of my own little division of philosophy that I made up is to act like a river, so I guess I should try to practice that more often. ![]()
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There's not always a problem with being someone who thinks before they take actions, so long as you don't overthink or aren't too much of a perfectionist I would think.
If it affects your life too much though, then I'd say yeah learning to go with the flow helps.
I still definitely have trouble doing it.
But I have trouble understanding how someone could live when they are the opposite to overthinking extreme perfectionist - an extremely 'go with the flow' type person.
To me it's counter-productive - you've got to actually THINK about your life, where you're headed, what you're doing, etc.
That is how goals are set, and that is how they are pursued.
Life can't always be spontaneous and 'just go with it'.
In other words, balance is necessary so that you don't go to extremes or work in absolutes [right or wrong, black and white, ectc].
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