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07 Feb 2016, 3:06 pm

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^I'm a male and I don't find desperation the least bit attractive.

I a man and I'd do. Or atleast it's not unattractive. Depends on the type of desperation I guess



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07 Feb 2016, 3:16 pm

Being a man simply means you have to work harder to find someone. Unfortunately that's just the way it is, I know it's unfair but nothing is fair. So stop trying to live in a fair world, because nothing about this life is fair. There's people in this world who will spend the rest of their life poor and will never get to experience love and being loved in return, and that could be one of you.

And unfortunately some people don't want to work hard for anything, they don't know the value of hard work. If something isn't easy or not given to them right away, they give up and then complain about things should be given to them. These are the people who won't accomplish much in their life whether that's getting a girlfriend, going to college, etc...

You gotta work hard even when the going gets tough.



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07 Feb 2016, 3:23 pm

I'm attracted to the psychologically interesting, to be sure. But not, 'I just want someone anyone will do oh good you're someone'. It later turned out my first girlfriend was desperate, as was I. It's not conducive to a stable relationship, nor is it exactly flattering. The experience was enough to keep me from being desperate myself, and in avoiding others who seem desperate.

I dont doubt some men find desperation attractive. It takes all sorts, after all, for better or worse.

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You have to realize how much easier it is for woman to get into a relationship compared to men, especially when you're comparing yourself to asperger men. It's not even close. Yes I know women have their own problems to deal with but never take for granted that you have power over men and generally speaking, getting into relationships will be easier for young attractive girls.


Uh oh...


Yeah. I still don't get this. Given, whatever the looks or gender, it still takes two to tango, I don't know where this 'easier' is coming from.


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07 Feb 2016, 4:50 pm

sly279 wrote:
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^I'm a male and I don't find desperation the least bit attractive.

I a man and I'd do. Or atleast it's not unattractive. Depends on the type of desperation I guess


Desperation leads to a standards flying out the window. That makes it much easier for an incompatible match-up. Won't take long for things to fall apart in that scenario.

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^I'm a male and I don't find desperation the least bit attractive.


But plenty of men do. Seriously, go to a porn site and read some of the comments about how some girls say I want to be f****d like that and then read the replies to these comments. Regardless of whether these "girls" are dudes irl or not, being a pretty girl and acting desperate for love or sex is going to get the men coming. ESPECIALLY if it has to do with sex, because lets face it a lot of men are horndogs.

And you don't even have to say anything sexual either. You can just simply be like I want to find a man to love me and the men will come. Many of these men will have good intentions as well. They're basically white knights.


If I was born a girl, i'd have had a boyfriend by now. Probably a couple.


People watching porn aren't really thinking about long-term relationships so much as they're thinking about getting off. Of course they're going to find those sort of comments attractive. But when you're looking for a life-long partner, that sort of thing gets old fast.



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07 Feb 2016, 5:57 pm

Desperation doesn't make anyone attractive. Chances are they were already attractive. Desperation makes them easy to abuse, which is a different matter. I know this is a can of worms, but I agree it's much easier for women to find any willing partner, especially for one-night stands; the problem is that the first willing potential partner who shows up is very rarely the one they want. And, when they talk about this with those of us who have never attracted anyone of the opposite sex at all, it's very easy for them to come across as arrogant, elitist jerks used to taking for granted what has always been beyond our reach and turning up their little, classy noses at us for it. Don't let this get the better of you, unless you want to forfeit your chances of ever having a loving girlfriend, rather than someone to take surrogate revenge on, making any understanding or good mutual feelings impossible.

PS -- This was for darkphantomx1.


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07 Feb 2016, 7:22 pm

CryingTears15 wrote:
Oh? I figured I could just reject the advances of people.
Of course you can! I think the people here see a very nice person and are just looking out for you, if a little over apprehensive.

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07 Feb 2016, 8:45 pm

Yeah. You'll do well.


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07 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

Just exercise 5x a day for an hour a day. Eat a healthy diet. Eat out very little. Avoid junk food and get plenty of sunshine and you will be fine as far as aesthetics are concerned.



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08 Feb 2016, 12:12 pm

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OP, there was once a girl on here who posted a thread on here about how she was scared of being alone forever and how she really wanted a boyfriend and even posted a picture of herself. She was a few years older than you.

And what happened next? She was messaged by a couple of men on here and before you know it, she's in a relationship with another WP member. Just like that, she went from being "forever alone" to being in a relationship.

And if a guy were to make the same thread, no one is really going to give a s**t. He may get advice from other male members but woman arne't going to be like awww he's lonely I will be his girlfriend. He's not going to be messaged by girl after girl. Nope, he has to "man up" and talk to women.


Desperation in females is attractive, if a pretty girl publicly complains about how she wants a boyfriend, then the men will come. Because for us men, we are the initiators whether that's because we're hard-wired to do so or because of society I don't know. And desperation in females is attractive because either that means you're easy (if you want sex) or if you want a boyfriend so bad, he thinks he has a greater shot.


So the trick for you is to give hints that you want a boyfriend. And also don't be afraid to approach men as well because I like I said previously, if a woman approaches a man, she's far more likely to be successful. Reverse the gender roles so that you are the one pursuing instead of the other way around.


People generally don't date another person because 'awww that persons lonely' that would be pity dating and its not very nice because eventually it will come to light they did it out of pity than any other interest. I wouldn't want to be someone's pity pet.

But I digress I have given a s*** about guys posting concerns that they wont find someone, otherwise I'd never post in such threads trying to encourage them or give any kind of advice, but yeah you're right even before my current boyfriend I wouldn't have been willing to date a guy on here just because they post a thread about being lonely...that's not the basis for a relationship. Also I imagine the feeling of being with a guy who just wants anyone regardless of who isn't going to feel very good, then you don't feel like you're anything special to that guy...also it can be questionable whether the guy is putting on an act to keep the relationship on or actually being himself.

Also most guys I know find desperation to be pretty unappealing, when it comes to looking for a woman to be in a relationship with. Desperation would be attractive to someone who just wants to use another person for pleasure since due to the persons desperate state they'll be willing to do 'anything'...not just talking about guys who need somewhere to put their dick though, females use desperate males for sex to.


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08 Feb 2016, 12:44 pm

When I met my special someone, we were both lonely. Now, even though she is not here sometimes, I am not lonely anymore.


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08 Feb 2016, 12:50 pm

darkphantomx1 wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
^I'm a male and I don't find desperation the least bit attractive.


But plenty of men do. Seriously, go to a porn site and read some of the comments about how some girls say I want to be f****d like that and then read the replies to these comments. Regardless of whether these "girls" are dudes irl or not, being a pretty girl and acting desperate for love or sex is going to get the men coming. ESPECIALLY if it has to do with sex, because lets face it a lot of men are horndogs.

And you don't even have to say anything sexual either. You can just simply be like I want to find a man to love me and the men will come. Many of these men will have good intentions as well. They're basically white knights.


If I was born a girl, i'd have had a boyfriend by now. Probably a couple.


No, most of those men have the intention of getting off via sex....of course any woman willing to let them do that who is at least semi-attractive to them is going to be 'attractive' to them in that context. Outside of that though plenty of those guys will find the idea of actually being in a relationship with those desperate women quite undesirable. I don't think you find many guys who are looking for desperation in a potential life-long partner. Now guys who just want to get laid and feed their ego often find desperation very, very attractive.


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08 Feb 2016, 1:50 pm

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not just talking about guys who need somewhere to put their dick though, females use desperate males for sex to.


Even desperation has standards. You'll never see a woman using me for sex. And I'm assuming, for the sake of argument, that that phrase actually means something, because I don't know how she could use me for sex, since I'd be much more interested in having sex with her than she would be in having it with me. It'd seem a rather perverse use of language to say I'm being used if I'm getting what I want the most in life. I don't care how worthless it is to those who get it effortlessly all the time; to me, it's the absolutely most valuable thing in the world, precisely because it's unattainable.


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08 Feb 2016, 2:16 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
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not just talking about guys who need somewhere to put their dick though, females use desperate males for sex to.


Even desperation has standards. You'll never see a woman using me for sex. And I'm assuming, for the sake of argument, that that phrase actually means something, because I don't know how she could use me for sex, since I'd be much more interested in having sex with her than she would be in having it with me. It'd seem a rather perverse use of language to say I'm being used if I'm getting what I want the most in life. I don't care how worthless it is to those who get it effortlessly all the time; to me, it's the absolutely most valuable thing in the world, precisely because it's unattainable.


I imagine after the sex you'll find its not all you hyped it up to be....especially if it was a woman from her point of view using you for sex because your desperate enough to allow it. It feels dirty when you come to find you've been having sex with someone who doesn't really care for anything but the sexual orifice on your body...at least in my opinion. Though maybe it is different if both parties know its just sex and nothing else initially.

What if a women acted like she was actually going to be with you, had sex with you maybe saw you a couple more times and out of the blue stopped talking to you? Also if you actually ever interacted with females or figure out what it is you think is so undesirable about you and make some improvements it might not be unattainable, so in part it seems you're stuck in a self fulfilling prophecy...doesn't mean you have to be. I mean unless its some kind of obvioius disfigurement not sure what it is you think people can see that makes them deem you unworthy of so much as even looking in their direction.

Maybe constantly repeating that stuff in your head or thinking about it, like that when your out and about effects your posture and body language in such away people feel its best to avoid you. Maybe you seem hard to approach.

Just not sure what you want people to say you constantly complain about not having sex or a relationship, but as far as I can tell you don't try anything people suggest you just tell them why you specifically are the lowest of the low and it wont work. I mean what is it a curse, like your cursed never to get laid and for everyone everywhere to immediately despise your mere existence? Because there is no scientific phenomenon I know of that ensures any of this. You should question your self loathing sometime.


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08 Feb 2016, 2:20 pm

To spiderpig:
I really dont believe you are as unattractive as you think(i have no idea what you look like tho), but even if you arent attractive its not gonna ruin your chances of relationship, since theres a lot people who arent attractive or rich who still find relationships.. I think its more your self hating attitude thats stopping you from it and also that you that it sound like your given up and dont even try even anymore.. Like i know saying "dont hate yourself blahblah" arent gonna change anything, but maybe try to not show it as much? because a guy who totally hate himself and constantly talk crap himself is kind of 'scaring'(not litterally scared, just lack of better words and my basic english) girls away



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08 Feb 2016, 2:27 pm

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Desperation doesn't make anyone attractive. Chances are they were already attractive. Desperation makes them easy to abuse, which is a different matter. I know this is a can of worms, but I agree it's much easier for women to find any willing partner, especially for one-night stands; the problem is that the first willing potential partner who shows up is very rarely the one they want. And, when they talk about this with those of us who have never attracted anyone of the opposite sex at all, it's very easy for them to come across as arrogant, elitist jerks used to taking for granted what has always been beyond our reach and turning up their little, classy noses at us for it. Don't let this get the better of you, unless you want to forfeit your chances of ever having a loving girlfriend, rather than someone to take surrogate revenge on, making any understanding or good mutual feelings impossible.

PS -- This was for darkphantomx1.


You've never been a female being called ugly and having it inferred any sort of intimate activities with you would be absolutely disgusting for any guy it was thrust upon as a teen as one of your first internet forum experiences when you just wanted a picture avatar like everyone else. Nor been told repeatedly by male peers in school how you're not attractive, and having students of both genders asking 'are you a boy or a girl' ect.

You think that makes it easy to find a willing partner, no makes you petrified to even look available because you're afraid of how gross you'll be to them...not an easy thing to deal with. But I suppose only males can be made to feel unworthy of sex or relationships according to some of you here.


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08 Feb 2016, 2:32 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Desperation doesn't make anyone attractive. Chances are they were already attractive. Desperation makes them easy to abuse, which is a different matter. I know this is a can of worms, but I agree it's much easier for women to find any willing partner, especially for one-night stands; the problem is that the first willing potential partner who shows up is very rarely the one they want. And, when they talk about this with those of us who have never attracted anyone of the opposite sex at all, it's very easy for them to come across as arrogant, elitist jerks used to taking for granted what has always been beyond our reach and turning up their little, classy noses at us for it. Don't let this get the better of you, unless you want to forfeit your chances of ever having a loving girlfriend, rather than someone to take surrogate revenge on, making any understanding or good mutual feelings impossible.<br abp="245"><br abp="246">PS -- This was for darkphantomx1.
<br abp="247"><br abp="248">You've never been a female being called ugly and having it inferred any sort of intimate activities with you would be absolutely disgusting for any guy it was thrust upon as an adolescent as one of your first internet forum experiences. Nor been told repeatedly by male peers in school how you're not attractive, and having students of both genders asking 'are you a boy or a girl' ect. <br abp="249"><br abp="250">You think that makes it easy to find a willing partner, no makes you petrified to even look available because you're afraid of how gross you'll be...not an easy thing to deal with. But I suppose that kind of thing only happens to males because by default females are attractive goddesses with all the power in the world over all of men. :roll:

THANK YOU SWEETLEAF
These are some things that annoy me about some of the male members here who act like every female is an attractive goddess who would never ever have any problems with relationships

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