14 Jan 2017, 8:35 am
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14 Jan 2017, 10:04 am
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initoasting at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
14 Jan 2017, 10:06 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initoasting at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
Well it's true for me and many of the women that I know. Weirdly enough I trust my experience more aswell.
I don't need you too believe it I'm fully aware of what you're thoughts are.
14 Jan 2017, 11:32 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initoasting at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
It isn't an excuse, it is something that is conditioned into women by our society, our parents I've seen it for myself and I understand why they do, you can't put the blame on individual women like that yes some do take that chance but most women don't because of what they can be seen as and often at times are ridiculed for it.
Take a step back, read what has been said here and try to see it from other peoples perspective.
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14 Jan 2017, 11:36 am
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14 Jan 2017, 12:59 pm
DeanFry wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initoasting at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
It isn't an excuse, it is something that is conditioned into women by our society, our parents I've seen it for myself and I understand why they do, you can't put the blame on individual women like that yes some do take that chance but most women don't because of what they can be seen as and often at times are ridiculed for it.
Take a step back, read what has been said here and try to see it from other peoples perspective.
I am 100% sure those same people initiated at some point for their cushes.
I don't buy it that a woman at this age *never* sends a hi to a guy she really likes because of society.
Most women who initiated with me are conservative middle-eastern/asians; explain this.
And I have never heard of men react badly on this; on the contrary most males NT or otherwise I talked with on this matter wish it; it is like a dream for them.
Who are these men that wp women keep claiming that they get angry if women initiate with them?Which medeival castle they come from?
I don't buy they're that common and I don't understand why anyone wants to date them in the first place.
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14 Jan 2017, 1:11 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
DeanFry wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initiating at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
It isn't an excuse, it is something that is conditioned into women by our society, our parents I've seen it for myself and I understand why they do, you can't put the blame on individual women like that yes some do take that chance but most women don't because of what they can be seen as and often at times are ridiculed for it.
Take a step back, read what has been said here and try to see it from other peoples perspective.
I am 100% sure those same people initiated at some point for their cushes.
I don't buy it that a woman at this age never sends a hi to a guy she really likes because of society.
And I have never heard of men react badly on this; on the contrary most males NT or otherwise I talked with on this matter wish it; it is like a dream for them.
Who are these men that wp women keep claiming that they get angry if women initiate with them?Which medeival castle they come from?
I don't buy they're that common and I don't understand why anyone wants to date them in the first place.
I should have properly explained myself I meant like first approaches. Thats why i said i understand what your saying about the never initiating (which autocorrected as intoasting
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14 Jan 2017, 1:24 pm
14 Jan 2017, 1:25 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
DeanFry wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
I get what you mean about the not initoasting at all thing.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
But you have to understand about the approaching men for hundreds of years we have been told approaching men is unladylike and whorish. In the olden days approaching a man was seen as 'loose'.
There is still a bit of a stigma around it. I know in secondary if I ever approached boy to ask him out I wad bullied and teased for being too upfront and desperate. Also have you seen how NT men react, they are almost insulted because you are too forward.
Those are all common excuses that you ladies repeat over and over again because you don't want to deal with rejections.
I am not convinced.
But in my experience, the women who initiate are always the ones who turn out to be interested, and the ones who never initiate, including the ones who reply enthusiastically, always turn out not interested.
I trust my experience more.
It isn't an excuse, it is something that is conditioned into women by our society, our parents I've seen it for myself and I understand why they do, you can't put the blame on individual women like that yes some do take that chance but most women don't because of what they can be seen as and often at times are ridiculed for it.
Take a step back, read what has been said here and try to see it from other peoples perspective.
I am 100% sure those same people initiated at some point for their cushes.
I don't buy it that a woman at this age never sends a hi to a guy she really likes because of society.
And I have never heard of men react badly on this; on the contrary most males NT or otherwise I talked with on this matter wish it; it is like a dream for them.
Who are these men that wp women keep claiming that they get angry if women initiate with them?Which medeival castle they come from?
I don't buy they're that common and I don't understand why anyone wants to date them in the first place.
You'd be surprised, it takes a while for women to be comfortable enough to engage first. I've seen it for myself, men especially those who focus on masculinity tend to be like this and there is a lot of men like this especially around where I am.
Other times it could be for numerous reasons why women don't engage, sometimes they already have a boyfriend or are gay hell sometimes you can even miss that they are interested in you and you are oblivious to it.
Basically like us we have to be comfortable before making the first move which tends to be men but if a woman feels comfortable she will make that first move if she likes you and is confident.
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