Why are women so triggered by the friendzone?
Women are triggered by the friendzone because if you are friendzoned as a woman that means you are not attractive enough. Circumstances don't matter. Women are judged by their looks and if they are not attractive enough...
Also a lot of women have narcissitic traits, basically "how dare you not find be beautiful????"
Are you saying it's cause of their money and status? Cause me saying that people say I'm misogynistic. I don't disagree it is interesting to see a woman here say it. I see women everywhere else admit to it though.
The op means women are triggered by men saying they were friend zoned.yiu won't find many women here who'll admit women get friend zoned as that'd mean admitting it happens to men too.
Women are judged by looks, while men are judged by looks and their income.
Most women are beautiful though. I find about 95% of women beautiful and gorgeous. Which is unfortunate for me as if they beautiful they'll never date me and I can't bring myself to date the 5% I find unattractive and would never kiss. Women are lucky, except those 5% though most of them are in relationships. So even they're lucky. As a woman odds are theirs millions of guys who'll find you attractive regardless what you look like. What's really sad is even a lot of those 5% think they too good for me.
It evens out eventually trust me. Women as they age lose a lot of the dating power they had when they were younger trust.
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Doesn't seem like it I look at older women profiles and ads too, they demand the same stuff 21 olds do. I have no interest in dating older women and never will even when I'm 40'i won't want to date a 40 old. Not that they'd date me it'll be worse for for me then. Most of them have a home and don't want a guy who doesn't have a great income. And they're less pretty as they age and don't want sex or romance anymore. As well as most have teenagers or adult children, nah I'll probably have to find a way to die after 35. North Korea heating up though so maybe or a war with China, maybe the military would lower their standards if they had to draft people. I dont know there's always possibility of random accident too, whatever I hope it's instant I'm not one for pain.
The kind of guys on dating sites, social media etc that present as "Nice Guys" always complaining that women only date jerks and that they're always friendzoned because they're too "nice" are equated with the type of guys that wear fedora hats, seemingly as a way to reinforce how unique and gentlemanly they are.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fedora-shaming
Yes, guys lie about, and hide their intentions with women.
If a guy suddenly starts hanging around you all the time, or goes out of his way to talk to you, he is probably romantically interested, no matter if he tells you or not. Guys don't do this for no reason. If he asked you out and you turned him down, and he still wants to hang out with you, he is still interested, but he is just trying a different approach (pretending to be your best friend).
I love hanging out with me female friends. I enjoy talking to them and being there for them. I just got to meet a good friends boyfriend and it was so much fun. I talk to my best friend and my closest friend all the time. I have no romantic interest in then. I see them as family. I don't date. I go out of my way to talk to my friends.
Did you every have feelings for her romantically?
I could have female friends who I met when they are in a relationship and make it clear but if not I get romantic feelings for them and them rejected me won't make those go away and I don't wish to put myself through one sided love. I have a friend I met here who due to various reasons it wouldn't work out but that's different and we don't see each other just text over the internet.
I have never really had romantic
Feelings for anyone. I view them as family.
And so have basically most guys and gals.
But I have to live with it, and move on.
Sure, I have also experienced individual people I wanted to sex up having no interest in it, too. Neither you nor I set about making a map of the phenomenon. We didn't embed a bunch of tired old sexist ideas into the map and generalize it to apply to all women, as though one could accurately predict and become what all women want. We didn't make millions selling courses to an army of ethically sketchy devotees, either.
That's why I don't promote the use of the term. It seems valid on the surface, but comes laden with bad assumptions.
ETA, I did sort of try to make a map, but then I heard the Genesis song Counting Out Time and realized that people require more than a map.
But see, in the mindset of some posters here when men are hysterical and irrational it's perfectly justified, but when people who lack a Y chromosome do it, it's clearly due to their inability to be reasonable and absolutely unjustified. Just don't call them sexist or misogynistic or they'll have a meltdown.
These are exactly what I'm talking about. I plainly said in my original post that "guy" didn't say or even hint at anything sexist or wanting only sex or feeling entitled to anything. Just that he had been friendzoned. And then you two perfectly prove my point by IGNORING ALL OF THAT and talking about how sexist selfish and unreasonable "guy" is. This is why it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about this. The unintelligent people have already set the status quo. They just have to make sure nobody ever challenges it.
No, I simply responded to a comment that men don't throw fits about being in the "friendzone" when some of them absolutely do.
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But see, in the mindset of some posters here when men are hysterical and irrational it's perfectly justified, but when people who lack a Y chromosome do it, it's clearly due to their inability to be reasonable and absolutely unjustified. Just don't call them sexist or misogynistic or they'll have a meltdown.
These are exactly what I'm talking about. I plainly said in my original post that "guy" didn't say or even hint at anything sexist or wanting only sex or feeling entitled to anything. Just that he had been friendzoned. And then you two perfectly prove my point by IGNORING ALL OF THAT and talking about how sexist selfish and unreasonable "guy" is. This is why it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation about this. The unintelligent people have already set the status quo. They just have to make sure nobody ever challenges it.
I didn't realize accurately describing my experiences in dealing with people complaining about the so-called 'friend-zone' was unintelligent. Just because you don't like my response doesn't make it invalid. I wasn't even responding to your OP, only commenting generically in response to XFG. I hope I didn't trigger you.
Yeah, it is unintelligent because you can't read what other men are thinking.
No, but I can tell a guy is pitching a fit when he is pitching a fit.
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The kind of guys on dating sites, social media etc that present as "Nice Guys" always complaining that women only date jerks and that they're always friendzoned because they're too "nice" are equated with the type of guys that wear fedora hats, seemingly as a way to reinforce how unique and gentlemanly they are.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fedora-shaming
Thanks for the education.
I've never been on a dating site, so I was unaware of the fedora phenomenon.
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Women are triggered by the friendzone because if you are friendzoned as a woman that means you are not attractive enough. Circumstances don't matter. Women are judged by their looks and if they are not attractive enough...
Also a lot of women have narcissitic traits, basically "how dare you not find be beautiful????"
Are you saying it's cause of their money and status? Cause me saying that people say I'm misogynistic. I don't disagree it is interesting to see a woman here say it. I see women everywhere else admit to it though.
There is a super fine line with that one. You can say that A FEW women SEEM to only be interested in a guy's money or status, because that is actually true. We women know it, and we do not respect it in other women. But to suggest that would be the only reason those women might be attracted to guy, or to suggest that women, in general, are like is a problem. It isn't true, and it is insulting. It is a bit like saying men are only capable of liking a woman if her assets are falling out; the insinuation is far too broad and negative. But to say it is a possibility for a particular individual when all the evidence in front of our eyes is suggesting it? That is Ok. Just be really careful to limit and couch the comment.
My friend's BIL got famous and she watched as women suddenly got very interested in a guy she knew to be below par. She was pretty blunt after meeting many of those women: its usually the money, although not always.
Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates made very intelligent marriages. They married women who are true partners; intellectually compatible and similar in pre-fame social status. We like and respect those women. And it is a pretty big signal to most women that these men aren't going to be easily torn out of their marriages. I don't know how many women throw themselves in front of them anyway, but it seems like it would be a waste of time.
Unlike my friend's BIL, who got divorced as soon as he got wealthy and started dating trophy types. I don't consider a man like him to be a catch. At all.
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Um, it seems you missed the research that says women meet their sexual peak at around 40. Unlike men, who peak around 18. Or something like that; I may not have the exact ages memorized right, but the concept holds. You are wrong that women of a certain age don't want sex or romance anymore, although it is possible that some with kids or careers may get too busy to prioritize it. Still, bad assumption.
Also, what we are attracted to changes as we age. I can't look at a very young man in "that" way anymore. All I see is a kid.
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Women are triggered by the friendzone because if you are friendzoned as a woman that means you are not attractive enough. Circumstances don't matter. Women are judged by their looks and if they are not attractive enough...
Also a lot of women have narcissitic traits, basically "how dare you not find be beautiful????"
Are you saying it's cause of their money and status? Cause me saying that people say I'm misogynistic. I don't disagree it is interesting to see a woman here say it. I see women everywhere else admit to it though.
There is a super fine line with that one. You can say that A FEW women SEEM to only be interested in a guy's money or status, because that is actually true. We women know it, and we do not respect it in other women. But to suggest that would be the only reason those women might be attracted to guy, or to suggest that women, in general, are like is a problem. It isn't true, and it is insulting. It is a bit like saying men are only capable of liking a woman if her assets are falling out; the insinuation is far too broad and negative. But to say it is a possibility for a particular individual when all the evidence in front of our eyes is suggesting it? That is Ok. Just be really careful to limit and couch the comment.
My friend's BIL got famous and she watched as women suddenly got very interested in a guy she knew to be below par. She was pretty blunt after meeting many of those women: its usually the money, although not always.
Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates made very intelligent marriages. They married women who are true partners; intellectually compatible and similar in pre-fame social status. We like and respect those women. And it is a pretty big signal to most women that these men aren't going to be easily torn out of their marriages. I don't know how many women throw themselves in front of them anyway, but it seems like it would be a waste of time.
Unlike my friend's BIL, who got divorced as soon as he got wealthy and started dating trophy types. I don't consider a man like him to be a catch. At all.
Never said it's the only thing, but men could met 99% of all their other requirements and have a min wage job and they wouldn't date him. A mans income is one of if not the most important things women require. Most won't date a loser who's personality they like and share hobbies with
I meet a lot of women's requirements but I don't have a real job and this they say I'm not a real man.
Just like I've never called women gold diggers. I simple say most women won't date a guy unless he has a certain income and women get all defysnd assume I'm calling them gold diggers. Most aspie women here even say they won't date a guy who doesn't have a good job. It's pretty much a universal standard. It's a carryover from the past when women didn't work but women won't let it go. There's no meninism movmoto push to get rid of it either. It's going get worse to as labor jobs are replaced by robots. Men go to college less then women. So more women will get good jobs while more men will lose good jobs.
Women peak in their 40s? You mean after they can't have children anymore? That's hilarious. Very confusing how there are so many single moms or women who rode the carousel looking for beta bucks, while there are plenty of guys with women who are actually in their prime.
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No, but I can hear what they express out loud and read what they post online.
I meet a lot of women's requirements but I don't have a real job and this they say I'm not a real man.
Just like I've never called women gold diggers. I simple say most women won't date a guy unless he has a certain income and women get all defysnd assume I'm calling them gold diggers. Most aspie women here even say they won't date a guy who doesn't have a good job. It's pretty much a universal standard. It's a carryover from the past when women didn't work but women won't let it go. There's no meninism movmoto push to get rid of it either. It's going get worse to as labor jobs are replaced by robots. Men go to college less then women. So more women will get good jobs while more men will lose good jobs.
You're right, if what you're getting at is most women don't want to gain a dependent when dating, they expect someone who's capable of being financially independent. I imagine most men do too, unless their goal is to end up with someone who can't leave them because they have no income or ability to support themselves independently. On the other hand, college educated women apparently struggle with finding suitable partners, which suggests some might be more willing to compromise on this than you might expect.
MRAs like to pretend to be the equivalent to feminists, but unfortunately (at least online) they often seem to focus on issues like 'why can't we have sex with women who are passed out drunk?' instead of more reasonable concerns.
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Women get menopause at 45+, so it makes perfect sense both socially and biologically for them to reach peak sexual activity in early 40s: last call for reproduction and/or sex without lube
That, plus by that time they seem to reach the conclusion that sex is just sex and stop caring about looking "slu*ty" or whatever derogatory term men employ towards women who choose to live their sexuality. Also, you'll note you're answering an elderly lady, don't you think she'd know?
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I remember reading a study that said most woman will look for a man they perceive as slightly less intelligent as themselves, and being a man I'm in a solid position to tell you my ego would not allow me to date a woman I perceive as intellectually superior to myself could this explain the difficulty educated women have? Guys don't want to date them because their egos won't allow it?
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