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16 Apr 2018, 1:59 pm

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There certainly women who just want to stay inside their home all the time. I want one of them.

Yes, but at least some of them may find it awkward, because you live with your family.


Not anymore then her living off her parents ornwith roomates would be awkward.


Sly, you make an excellent point here.

People are nearly as reluctant to bring dates home around their roommates as they are to bring them home around their family - no matter the living arrangement, ideally, privacy is preferred.

However, due to economic reasons, MANY adults live with family or roommates. Where I live, we have the highest rate of adult children living with or renting from their parents in all of Canada. This is in small part because we have a lot of Indians (from India) and Chinese/other collectivist cultures who traditionally live with Three generations to a household and in large part because the average home price in the area is now in excess of $1M, rents are astronomical, and most young people can’t afford complete independence.

For the record: I’m one of those who rents from his parents. I could afford to rent elsewhere, or maybe even buy a cheap place, but those aren’t my goals and I’m okay with my living arrangement. I’ve only ever had friends around my family with the exception of one date that came and spent 4 days with my over Christmas in 2016. After that experience, if I were to be dating someone I’d have no problem with having them around my family just as any of my siblings have had their partners around when they were still living at home. It really isn’t that big of deal so long as you have a decent relationship with your family and you’re not embarrassed by them or your home.


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19 Apr 2018, 9:50 am

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There certainly women who just want to stay inside their home all the time. I want one of them.

Yes, but at least some of them may find it awkward, because you live with your family.


My only issue with dating a man who lives with his family is that people who have never lived on their own often don't realize what is involved in keeping up a dwelling because their parents or a housekeeper typically did the cleaning at home. I had to explain to my roommate when he moved in that it doesn't matter if he didn't make messes because things get dirty on their own.


Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.



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19 Apr 2018, 2:06 pm

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Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Because of the impression it makes on your date. She won’t know or care who made the mess, she will judge you based on it anyways.

I’m fortunate that I’m the least tidy one in the house, so just my room is untidy.

In your situation. Sly, honest to God you should NEVER invite a girl into your home - especially if you ever want to see her again. Seriously. Don’t tell her the real reason why. Just tell her that the family dogs are unpredictable and can get aggressive with strangers so no one besides who lives in the house can go inside because it’s dangerous.

Unless she’s blind and has no sense of smell, then by all means, invite her in for tea. But otherwise you should plan on always going out for dates and hanging out at her place.


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19 Apr 2018, 4:57 pm

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Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Because of the impression it makes on your date. She won’t know or care who made the mess, she will judge you based on it anyways.

I’m fortunate that I’m the least tidy one in the house, so just my room is untidy.

In your situation. Sly, honest to God you should NEVER invite a girl into your home - especially if you ever want to see her again. Seriously. Don’t tell her the real reason why. Just tell her that the family dogs are unpredictable and can get aggressive with strangers so no one besides who lives in the house can go inside because it’s dangerous.

Unless she’s blind and has no sense of smell, then by all means, invite her in for tea. But otherwise you should plan on always going out for dates and hanging out at her place.


What messes should I clean at restaurants 0.o

I don’t think I’d invite a girl to my house unless we were in a relationship, which would give me time to get them to clean it. They’ve cleaned a lot of it up currently. I just hope they keep up on it. I’d rather we just not have dogs. I get almost nothing from them.



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19 Apr 2018, 7:07 pm

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I'm happy to spend money on a date. Money is nothing more than a tool ultimately. If you can't take a girl out for a good time then why would she want to be with you? There's no person on Earth who is so interesting that others will just spend all day every day doing absolutely bugger all while in your company.

Because having a good time doesn’t require money.
My company should be enough. Apparently her company is all she has to give. Why would I want to go out with a woman who only can have a good time with my money?
She should be with me for my company regardless of what we do.
And if one sticks around long enough I can treat her with wonder vacations to a beach house. It’s for family only. Long term relationships are ok too.

We could go on walks which I quite enjoy, we can watch tv, play board games, play video games, cuddle, go play at a park. My friends and me use to walk around last night for 6 hours long. Certainly there must be women out there who do so. There certainly women who just want to stay inside their home all the time. I want one of them. There’s so much you can do for free. Hiking is free, camping is mostly free.

Also couples don’t spend all day every day together. She’ll have work and her hobbies I don’t do as will I. She’ll want to hang out with her friends too I imagine.
Money isn’t all that matters in this world.


No, money isn't all that matters in this world. But money is a tool that lets you do all sorts of things.

A lot of hobbies require money to actually get anywhere with, like mine, for instance. Money puts a roof over your head, lets you travel oversees, lets you try out interesting foods and experiences, lets you help out when she's short on cash, and all sorts of stuff.

Maybe you can get by just fine in life without much money. Fair play to you then, but don't expect all the women in the world to just ditch their money-dependent lifestyles so they can date you.

Money=freedom, simple as that. Money is nothing more, nothing less, and how you choose to wield your freedom factors a lot into attractiveness.

Money is not the ONLY source of freedom. It’s just the big, obvious one.

Stay-at-home-woman types don’t mind dependency. We all depend on each other for something, so that’s not the real issue. Women don’t want to be slaves to a man or the household. The Netflix and chill girl can’t do that if she doesn’t know she has security, so the man who can offer that is who she’ll gravitate to. A lot of women, too, are attracted to the idea of being a homemaker with a good side-hustle (my wife used to sell Younique, but she started getting hate from her upline so she gave it up. She’s a Plexus girl now. PM me if you’re interested, haha!). So if you want that girl, you have to be responsible for her independence as well as yours. So both the homemaker and the working Netflix and chill girl end up being higher maintenance than you might think.

We have so many special occasions and social obligations that “dating” as a married couple is a thing of the past. Over time, you should expect a degree of upward social mobility, so we’re never short on being entertained. There is a renovated plantation home within walking distance of us that schedules events open to the public, and we see a lot of our friends there. We don’t do it as a date-date thing, but it serves the same function. When you are young or in early dating stages, dating is getting to know someone and having fun. As you move along in your relationship, you’ll probably find that you sort of transcend the “just-us” thing and start bringing more and more people into your circle.

It’s still romantic and fun, don’t get me wrong. It’s just you never think about going there in life and then...there you are. My point is that Netflix and chill is more often the destination and not the journey.


Very nice post.



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19 Apr 2018, 7:27 pm

sly279 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
314pe wrote:
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There certainly women who just want to stay inside their home all the time. I want one of them.

Yes, but at least some of them may find it awkward, because you live with your family.


My only issue with dating a man who lives with his family is that people who have never lived on their own often don't realize what is involved in keeping up a dwelling because their parents or a housekeeper typically did the cleaning at home. I had to explain to my roommate when he moved in that it doesn't matter if he didn't make messes because things get dirty on their own.


Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Dust, hair, dirt that gets tracked in which turns to a muddy film if the floor or counter gets wet or mixes into grease residue from cooking or human skin oil, dirtying up doors and walls and light switches. Soap scum and mildew deposits in the sinks, bathtubs, and showers, particularly the tile grout. Lime deposits on the faucets and in the toilets. Mold on the ceiling because keeping the window open in the bathroom isn't enough. Hairs on the ceiling (no idea how). The nastiness under the toilet seat. Stuff that has spilled or leaked in the refrigerator...and also the dust and hair and residue that got in there along with dead fruit flies that got in when the door was opened for a second. Stuff that spilled in the pantry. Toast crumbs from the toaster that no one knew were there until the toaster was moved, burnt whatever on the stove that looked like water when it boiled over and was wiped up but had enough organic material to carbonize anyway. I could go on.



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20 Apr 2018, 2:38 am

sly279 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
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Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Because of the impression it makes on your date. She won’t know or care who made the mess, she will judge you based on it anyways.

I’m fortunate that I’m the least tidy one in the house, so just my room is untidy.

In your situation. Sly, honest to God you should NEVER invite a girl into your home - especially if you ever want to see her again. Seriously. Don’t tell her the real reason why. Just tell her that the family dogs are unpredictable and can get aggressive with strangers so no one besides who lives in the house can go inside because it’s dangerous.

Unless she’s blind and has no sense of smell, then by all means, invite her in for tea. But otherwise you should plan on always going out for dates and hanging out at her place.


What messes should I clean at restaurants 0.o

I don’t think I’d invite a girl to my house unless we were in a relationship, which would give me time to get them to clean it. They’ve cleaned a lot of it up currently. I just hope they keep up on it. I’d rather we just not have dogs. I get almost nothing from them.


You don't live at a restaurant.

Similar rules apply, though. You should avoid taking dates to restaurants you know aren't clean.


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20 Apr 2018, 3:24 am

goldfish21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Because of the impression it makes on your date. She won’t know or care who made the mess, she will judge you based on it anyways.

I’m fortunate that I’m the least tidy one in the house, so just my room is untidy.

In your situation. Sly, honest to God you should NEVER invite a girl into your home - especially if you ever want to see her again. Seriously. Don’t tell her the real reason why. Just tell her that the family dogs are unpredictable and can get aggressive with strangers so no one besides who lives in the house can go inside because it’s dangerous.

Unless she’s blind and has no sense of smell, then by all means, invite her in for tea. But otherwise you should plan on always going out for dates and hanging out at her place.


What messes should I clean at restaurants 0.o

I don’t think I’d invite a girl to my house unless we were in a relationship, which would give me time to get them to clean it. They’ve cleaned a lot of it up currently. I just hope they keep up on it. I’d rather we just not have dogs. I get almost nothing from them.


You don't live at a restaurant.

Similar rules apply, though. You should avoid taking dates to restaurants you know aren't clean.


You said it’d make impression on my date. I won’t be having dates at my house.



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20 Apr 2018, 10:52 am

sly279 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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sly279 wrote:
Only things that get dirty by their own is dust.
Dishes get dirty cause someone used them and didn’t clean them after. I clean mine after before I eat, why should I clean up other peoples messes? They won’t even clean up heir own.


Because of the impression it makes on your date. She won’t know or care who made the mess, she will judge you based on it anyways.

I’m fortunate that I’m the least tidy one in the house, so just my room is untidy.

In your situation. Sly, honest to God you should NEVER invite a girl into your home - especially if you ever want to see her again. Seriously. Don’t tell her the real reason why. Just tell her that the family dogs are unpredictable and can get aggressive with strangers so no one besides who lives in the house can go inside because it’s dangerous.

Unless she’s blind and has no sense of smell, then by all means, invite her in for tea. But otherwise you should plan on always going out for dates and hanging out at her place.


What messes should I clean at restaurants 0.o

I don’t think I’d invite a girl to my house unless we were in a relationship, which would give me time to get them to clean it. They’ve cleaned a lot of it up currently. I just hope they keep up on it. I’d rather we just not have dogs. I get almost nothing from them.


You don't live at a restaurant.

Similar rules apply, though. You should avoid taking dates to restaurants you know aren't clean.


You said it’d make impression on my date. I won’t be having dates at my house.


I said that because it's extremely common for people to invite their date back to their home, especially when things are likely to get sexual. I cautioned you against this because you've described what your home is like. You'll have to go to her place, use the back of your car, sleep under the stars somewhere, or rent a hotel room etc.


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20 Apr 2018, 5:37 pm

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I said that because it's extremely common for people to invite their date back to their home, especially when things are likely to get sexual. I cautioned you against this because you've described what your home is like. You'll have to go to her place, use the back of your car, sleep under the stars somewhere, or rent a hotel room etc.


I don’t onw a car. I won’t be having sex with a woman on first date or ones after. I dont know if ever have sex. If I did it would be after month or more.
At which point hopefully she knows and likes me and my house is cleaned up like for inspections. I won’t go to woman’s house either. Apparently a lot of women see that as mooching.



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20 Apr 2018, 6:18 pm

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I said that because it's extremely common for people to invite their date back to their home, especially when things are likely to get sexual. I cautioned you against this because you've described what your home is like. You'll have to go to her place, use the back of your car, sleep under the stars somewhere, or rent a hotel room etc.


I don’t onw a car. I won’t be having sex with a woman on first date or ones after. I dont know if ever have sex. If I did it would be after month or more.
At which point hopefully she knows and likes me and my house is cleaned up like for inspections. I won’t go to woman’s house either. Apparently a lot of women see that as mooching.


I didn’t say anything about it being on a first date or the 10th one. Just whenever it is, be smart enough to go anywhere but your place if you want there to be another date after that.

It’s not mooching if she invites you. She’ll feel rejected and like you’re not sexually attracted to her if you decline an invite to her place.


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