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24 Mar 2018, 5:50 pm

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Just out of my curiosity are women who play video games including "bro games" considered unladylike and not girlfriend material where you live? When I lived in the South, I was the only female I knew who played Final Fantasy and Tekken. Then again, I'm not a "Southern Belle" or ladylike for that matter. I live in New Hampshire now and finally know other women who enjoy video games.


I know some guys who get mad when girls would play video games and tell them stuff like "Stick to The Sims, Candy Crush, and Second Life and stay the f**k out of our s**t!" or something stupid like that. :roll:


That's very unfortunate. I play The Sims sometimes but I'm not very good at it lol. I'm better at Street Fighter and Heroes of Might and Magic.

Heck...one time I brought my old laptop to play Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and had to wait until night to play it because I'm a devout Inferno Faction girl. People would think I'm a devil worshiper.


A lot of women in my area also have this outlook that video games are purely a male activity and I find that disappointing. My sister in law said she wanted to play them when she was younger but was told that was "boy's stuff".

I actually had a teacher freak out on me for playing Doom even though you spend the entire game killing demons instead of worshipping them.



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24 Mar 2018, 7:51 pm

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Just out of my curiosity are women who play video games including "bro games" considered unladylike and not girlfriend material where you live? When I lived in the South, I was the only female I knew who played Final Fantasy and Tekken. Then again, I'm not a "Southern Belle" or ladylike for that matter. I live in New Hampshire now and finally know other women who enjoy video games.


I know some guys who get mad when girls would play video games and tell them stuff like "Stick to The Sims, Candy Crush, and Second Life and stay the f**k out of our s**t!" or something stupid like that. :roll:


That's very unfortunate. I play The Sims sometimes but I'm not very good at it lol. I'm better at Street Fighter and Heroes of Might and Magic.

Heck...one time I brought my old laptop to play Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and had to wait until night to play it because I'm a devout Inferno Faction girl. People would think I'm a devil worshiper.


A lot of women in my area also have this outlook that video games are purely a male activity and I find that disappointing. My sister in law said she wanted to play them when she was younger but was told that was "boy's stuff".

I actually had a teacher freak out on me for playing Doom even though you spend the entire game killing demons instead of worshipping them.


I never understood why some Christians hate Doom so much. Isn't killing hoards of demons a good thing? You're trying to ruin Hell, not join it.



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24 Mar 2018, 10:06 pm

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Just out of my curiosity are women who play video games including "bro games" considered unladylike and not girlfriend material where you live? When I lived in the South, I was the only female I knew who played Final Fantasy and Tekken. Then again, I'm not a "Southern Belle" or ladylike for that matter. I live in New Hampshire now and finally know other women who enjoy video games.


I know some guys who get mad when girls would play video games and tell them stuff like "Stick to The Sims, Candy Crush, and Second Life and stay the f**k out of our s**t!" or something stupid like that. :roll:

Aw, dude... I was a total freak on SL. Can’t do it anymore. Internet is strictly on cell phones now. But I was monster flirt on SL. A certain somebody was always watching over my shoulder and encouraging me to be evil.

There are plenty of guys on SL. It’s not just a girl thing, so I dunno what that’s all about. But if that’s true, it just fits one of the corollaries to the Rho Theorem: to meet girls, you have to be where the girls are.

[the theorem is “All human behavior is rooted in selfishness”]



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25 Mar 2018, 1:11 am

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Just out of my curiosity are women who play video games including "bro games" considered unladylike and not girlfriend material where you live? When I lived in the South, I was the only female I knew who played Final Fantasy and Tekken. Then again, I'm not a "Southern Belle" or ladylike for that matter. I live in New Hampshire now and finally know other women who enjoy video games.


I know some guys who get mad when girls would play video games and tell them stuff like "Stick to The Sims, Candy Crush, and Second Life and stay the f**k out of our s**t!" or something stupid like that. :roll:

Aw, dude... I was a total freak on SL. Can’t do it anymore. Internet is strictly on cell phones now. But I was monster flirt on SL. A certain somebody was always watching over my shoulder and encouraging me to be evil.

There are plenty of guys on SL. It’s not just a girl thing, so I dunno what that’s all about. But if that’s true, it just fits one of the corollaries to the Rho Theorem: to meet girls, you have to be where the girls are.

[the theorem is “All human behavior is rooted in selfishness”]


I didn't say that. It's the "bros" who make that statement. All they care about is Call of Duty, GTA, Halo, and Mortal Kombat. If they play anything like Final Fantasy or even Street Fighter, they get pissed and drop them because they don't like how those games don't grant you instant gratification. My older brother's ex-friends were all "bro gamers" and I even know some aspies who are like that.



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25 Mar 2018, 12:13 pm

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xxZeromancerlovexx wrote:
Marknis wrote:
xxZeromancerlovexx wrote:
Just out of my curiosity are women who play video games including "bro games" considered unladylike and not girlfriend material where you live? When I lived in the South, I was the only female I knew who played Final Fantasy and Tekken. Then again, I'm not a "Southern Belle" or ladylike for that matter. I live in New Hampshire now and finally know other women who enjoy video games.


I know some guys who get mad when girls would play video games and tell them stuff like "Stick to The Sims, Candy Crush, and Second Life and stay the f**k out of our s**t!" or something stupid like that. :roll:


That's very unfortunate. I play The Sims sometimes but I'm not very good at it lol. I'm better at Street Fighter and Heroes of Might and Magic.

Heck...one time I brought my old laptop to play Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and had to wait until night to play it because I'm a devout Inferno Faction girl. People would think I'm a devil worshiper.


A lot of women in my area also have this outlook that video games are purely a male activity and I find that disappointing. My sister in law said she wanted to play them when she was younger but was told that was "boy's stuff".

I actually had a teacher freak out on me for playing Doom even though you spend the entire game killing demons instead of worshipping them.


I never understood why some Christians hate Doom so much. Isn't killing hoards of demons a good thing? You're trying to ruin Hell, not join it.


I guess they still consider video games = evil regardless of the content.



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25 Mar 2018, 1:15 pm

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I have a psychiatric appointment lined up for the coming week. Before I lost my therapy, my therapist felt like I needed some sort of medicine to help the obsessive thought patterns I struggle with. A part of me does realize that my thoughts have plagued me for many years and they have not helped me.


I've been pointing that out to you in your threads for months. That's why I've recommended this book to you several times. It really is worth reading and learning from. https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... op?ie=UTF8


Interesting how you quote and respond to nearly every post except for this one suggesting something that may help you. It's almost as if you only want to complain vs learn to heal. Just my observation.


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25 Mar 2018, 1:28 pm

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I have a psychiatric appointment lined up for the coming week. Before I lost my therapy, my therapist felt like I needed some sort of medicine to help the obsessive thought patterns I struggle with. A part of me does realize that my thoughts have plagued me for many years and they have not helped me.


I've been pointing that out to you in your threads for months. That's why I've recommended this book to you several times. It really is worth reading and learning from. https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... op?ie=UTF8


Interesting how you quote and respond to nearly every post except for this one suggesting something that may help you. It's almost as if you only want to complain vs learn to heal. Just my observation.


Would it actually help with someone in my situation? From what I've seen, self-help books involving relationships don't take into account the struggles I go through. They seem to only cater to those who are in relationships but are not happy with them while I am someone who wants to be in a relationship but I have all these obstacles that make it seem impossible to ever have one.



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25 Mar 2018, 1:41 pm

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I have a psychiatric appointment lined up for the coming week. Before I lost my therapy, my therapist felt like I needed some sort of medicine to help the obsessive thought patterns I struggle with. A part of me does realize that my thoughts have plagued me for many years and they have not helped me.


I've been pointing that out to you in your threads for months. That's why I've recommended this book to you several times. It really is worth reading and learning from. https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Good-New ... op?ie=UTF8


Interesting how you quote and respond to nearly every post except for this one suggesting something that may help you. It's almost as if you only want to complain vs learn to heal. Just my observation.


Would it actually help with someone in my situation? From what I've seen, self-help books involving relationships don't take into account the struggles I go through. They seem to only cater to those who are in relationships but are not happy with them while I am someone who wants to be in a relationship but I have all these obstacles that make it seem impossible to ever have one.


This book is not about relationships. It's about the root cause of depression & anxiety - your thoughts. It's designed to help people exactly like you learn these things and grow from said knowledge. I know because I've read it and the accompanying self administered written exercises. That's why I've recommended it to you several times.


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25 Mar 2018, 5:01 pm

Good stuff, goldfish.

I know what you mean about relationship material and self-helps not really being helpful. I used to have a nasty, scornful outlook on that kind of thing. To a point, I still do. I’ve just learned to recognize them for what they are and for what context they can be useful in.

To put it in plain language, they try to keep you upbeat and motivated. They use platitudes and gimmicks to make you feel special, optimistic, and hopeful. Reality isn’t so naïve, though. But people are, and they want to be sold on their own worth, their hopes and dreams. Which is why literature like that keeps flying off the shelves.

If you read that junk very carefully, you can learn the language patterns that keep people so hooked on it. So you deal with people one-on-one that way and they look at you like you’re the second coming of the Messiah. You have to reach a sort of beast mode with it and never ever drop the act, but you’ll have friends out the wazoo.

...

Optional wall of text to illustrate the poin:

Just today I was at a little fundraiser to restore a local landmark, an antebellum plantation house. I thought my wife would enjoy some desserts, wine, and taking a tour of the place, so I got us tickets. We went, and it was crazy because EVERYONE was there. News reporters. Area teachers and school administrators. Famous local musician. Doctors. Lawyers. Farmers. Local restaurants and caterers brought their finest puddings, cakes, giant mutant chocolate-covered strawberries. Insanity, I tell you. And the crazy thing was there were people I actually knew, even some people I haven’t seen in years.

We are living next to broke in a trailer outside town and here we are rubbing elbows with the best and brightest of local high society. These are extremely interesting people, and it’s frightening, and my social awkwardness has me making a fool out of myself, but here I am. But what really makes these people so cool is, and they know how we live, they remember our names and ask us all about ourselves and what we’re doing, how the kids are, and all that. And I just feel so in awe and humbled that I struggle to stop running my mouth. But I always try to bring the focus back to them. I have a MAJOR donor to my program and casually dropped this idea I had for setting up ProTools workstations at my school. This is a big-shot Nashville guy, and suddenly his eyes get HUGE, he gets excited, and all this happened just as he was trying to leave the party. Suddenly he wasn’t quite as in a hurry to leave. These kinds of things aren’t natural to me, but as awesome as these people are, I’d like them to think I’m awesome, too, so I turn their awesomeness right back on them.

Those silly books are FULL of that crap. The crazy thing is, that’s how people really are in real life. Maybe not on a conscious level, but it’s true. You don’t have to be a new Age, whalesong, crystal-wearing type in the way you talk or dress. But if you do that in how you treat other people, you’ll be beating them off of you.

Rich and famous people are rich and famous for a reason. They have a gift for that kind of thing. My big Nashville friend always seems more interested in me and how he can help me more than talking about himself and his career or his current band/project or fundraiser or what. You want friends? You want women? Love? People aren’t awesome because they have money. They have money because they are awesome. You don’t need money. Just be awesome.



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25 Mar 2018, 5:09 pm

It turns out my appointment was never scheduled because the hospital is denying my f*****g medical insurance. I also think I may have saw the girl I once asked out for coffee again and now I am even more sad than I was earlier. Damnit! :(



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25 Mar 2018, 5:29 pm

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Good stuff, goldfish.

I know what you mean about relationship material and self-helps not really being helpful. I used to have a nasty, scornful outlook on that kind of thing. To a point, I still do. I’ve just learned to recognize them for what they are and for what context they can be useful in.

To put it in plain language, they try to keep you upbeat and motivated. They use platitudes and gimmicks to make you feel special, optimistic, and hopeful. Reality isn’t so naïve, though. But people are, and they want to be sold on their own worth, their hopes and dreams. Which is why literature like that keeps flying off the shelves.

If you read that junk very carefully, you can learn the language patterns that keep people so hooked on it. So you deal with people one-on-one that way and they look at you like you’re the second coming of the Messiah. You have to reach a sort of beast mode with it and never ever drop the act, but you’ll have friends out the wazoo.

...

Optional wall of text to illustrate the poin:

Just today I was at a little fundraiser to restore a local landmark, an antebellum plantation house. I thought my wife would enjoy some desserts, wine, and taking a tour of the place, so I got us tickets. We went, and it was crazy because EVERYONE was there. News reporters. Area teachers and school administrators. Famous local musician. Doctors. Lawyers. Farmers. Local restaurants and caterers brought their finest puddings, cakes, giant mutant chocolate-covered strawberries. Insanity, I tell you. And the crazy thing was there were people I actually knew, even some people I haven’t seen in years.

We are living next to broke in a trailer outside town and here we are rubbing elbows with the best and brightest of local high society. These are extremely interesting people, and it’s frightening, and my social awkwardness has me making a fool out of myself, but here I am. But what really makes these people so cool is, and they know how we live, they remember our names and ask us all about ourselves and what we’re doing, how the kids are, and all that. And I just feel so in awe and humbled that I struggle to stop running my mouth. But I always try to bring the focus back to them. I have a MAJOR donor to my program and casually dropped this idea I had for setting up ProTools workstations at my school. This is a big-shot Nashville guy, and suddenly his eyes get HUGE, he gets excited, and all this happened just as he was trying to leave the party. Suddenly he wasn’t quite as in a hurry to leave. These kinds of things aren’t natural to me, but as awesome as these people are, I’d like them to think I’m awesome, too, so I turn their awesomeness right back on them.

Those silly books are FULL of that crap. The crazy thing is, that’s how people really are in real life. Maybe not on a conscious level, but it’s true. You don’t have to be a new Age, whalesong, crystal-wearing type in the way you talk or dress. But if you do that in how you treat other people, you’ll be beating them off of you.

Rich and famous people are rich and famous for a reason. They have a gift for that kind of thing. My big Nashville friend always seems more interested in me and how he can help me more than talking about himself and his career or his current band/project or fundraiser or what. You want friends? You want women? Love? People aren’t awesome because they have money. They have money because they are awesome. You don’t need money. Just be awesome.


You can call "new age self help relationship guru," type books silly and full of crap all you want. The book I recommended is none of the above. It's written by a Psychiatrist and is designed to actually treat clinical depression & anxiety via self administered written cognitive behavioural therapy exercises after reading the book. The book is a very clinical and thorough explanation of depression and anxiety that's backed up by true anecdotes of real patients' stories. It's not exactly prime-time television entertaining, but it's certainly not dictionary-boring, either. It's an incredibly valuable learning resource & has been proven in clinical trials to be at LEAST as effective at treating clinical depression as anti-depressant medications are. That's why it's prescribed by doctors in lieu of medication and has sold more than 4 million copies.


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25 Mar 2018, 8:08 pm

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Good stuff, goldfish.

I know what you mean about relationship material and self-helps not really being helpful. I used to have a nasty, scornful outlook on that kind of thing. To a point, I still do. I’ve just learned to recognize them for what they are and for what context they can be useful in.

To put it in plain language, they try to keep you upbeat and motivated. They use platitudes and gimmicks to make you feel special, optimistic, and hopeful. Reality isn’t so naïve, though. But people are, and they want to be sold on their own worth, their hopes and dreams. Which is why literature like that keeps flying off the shelves.

If you read that junk very carefully, you can learn the language patterns that keep people so hooked on it. So you deal with people one-on-one that way and they look at you like you’re the second coming of the Messiah. You have to reach a sort of beast mode with it and never ever drop the act, but you’ll have friends out the wazoo.

...

Optional wall of text to illustrate the poin:

Just today I was at a little fundraiser to restore a local landmark, an antebellum plantation house. I thought my wife would enjoy some desserts, wine, and taking a tour of the place, so I got us tickets. We went, and it was crazy because EVERYONE was there. News reporters. Area teachers and school administrators. Famous local musician. Doctors. Lawyers. Farmers. Local restaurants and caterers brought their finest puddings, cakes, giant mutant chocolate-covered strawberries. Insanity, I tell you. And the crazy thing was there were people I actually knew, even some people I haven’t seen in years.

We are living next to broke in a trailer outside town and here we are rubbing elbows with the best and brightest of local high society. These are extremely interesting people, and it’s frightening, and my social awkwardness has me making a fool out of myself, but here I am. But what really makes these people so cool is, and they know how we live, they remember our names and ask us all about ourselves and what we’re doing, how the kids are, and all that. And I just feel so in awe and humbled that I struggle to stop running my mouth. But I always try to bring the focus back to them. I have a MAJOR donor to my program and casually dropped this idea I had for setting up ProTools workstations at my school. This is a big-shot Nashville guy, and suddenly his eyes get HUGE, he gets excited, and all this happened just as he was trying to leave the party. Suddenly he wasn’t quite as in a hurry to leave. These kinds of things aren’t natural to me, but as awesome as these people are, I’d like them to think I’m awesome, too, so I turn their awesomeness right back on them.

Those silly books are FULL of that crap. The crazy thing is, that’s how people really are in real life. Maybe not on a conscious level, but it’s true. You don’t have to be a new Age, whalesong, crystal-wearing type in the way you talk or dress. But if you do that in how you treat other people, you’ll be beating them off of you.

Rich and famous people are rich and famous for a reason. They have a gift for that kind of thing. My big Nashville friend always seems more interested in me and how he can help me more than talking about himself and his career or his current band/project or fundraiser or what. You want friends? You want women? Love? People aren’t awesome because they have money. They have money because they are awesome. You don’t need money. Just be awesome.


You can call "new age self help relationship guru," type books silly and full of crap all you want. The book I recommended is none of the above. It's written by a Psychiatrist and is designed to actually treat clinical depression & anxiety via self administered written cognitive behavioural therapy exercises after reading the book. The book is a very clinical and thorough explanation of depression and anxiety that's backed up by true anecdotes of real patients' stories. It's not exactly prime-time television entertaining, but it's certainly not dictionary-boring, either. It's an incredibly valuable learning resource & has been proven in clinical trials to be at LEAST as effective at treating clinical depression as anti-depressant medications are. That's why it's prescribed by doctors in lieu of medication and has sold more than 4 million copies.

Right. I was referring more specifically to Napoleon Hill, law of attraction, Oprah type junk that’s so pervasive. The value in those things is in what people want to believe and how you can play into that to build lasting relationships. Once you pattern your own behavior off what those books say, people flock to you because they see the best of themselves and their own potential, their hopes and dreams, reflected right back to them.

I can boil it all down to two things: 1. be a good listener; 2. The only way to make money in self help is to write a book or teach a class.

But basically you get people into you by basically being the same kind of person the author appears to be. The author is there to help, to understand your problems, and show you the way in or out.

Psychiatry and psychology don’t do that. They focus on the client, not the counselor, AND they’re backed by behavioral research. I think your book is probably better than the junk I’m talking about.

The role of professional therapist is to lead the client to self-discovery. In essence, Marknis already knows the answer to his problems. He either isn’t ready to admit it, or he needs someone to help guide him in a good direction where the answer becomes clear. In practice, the client is never meant to break his dependence on his therapist. If you think about it, EVERYONE could benefit from ongoing counseling, whether they are “diagnosed” with something or they need help making more effective business or personal decisions.

But, like...why not just take a yoga class?

I’m not a professional counselor for that reason. I’m interested in fixing problems so my client doesn’t need me anymore. I’m not patient enough to listen to someone go on and on aimlessly about something they already know the answer to. I want to scream “well get off your sorry @$$ and quit being such a [expletive].” And I don’t think that would be helpful for Marknis, either.



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25 Mar 2018, 8:16 pm

The book I recommended is clinical, not whimsical, and IMO the single best title I've ever read that could help Marknis.

I haven't read all of the other ones you mentioned, but I have read some of them, and I disagree with you that they're crap. They just help with different things in different ways than clinical books do. IMO those types of books are highly valuable to one's mindset being more optimistic, especially as they pertain to work & finances - which is the entire point of most of them. But I do agree that they are very different animals from the clinical book I recommended.

Whether Marknis, the homeless kids I've been trying to help out, or anyone else.. no one can be helped until they are ready to help themselves & take action to do so.


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You're almost 30. You're an adult. Your family is not responsible for you and has no obligation to coddle you. So stop that.


And yet my mother spends thousands of dollars on my older brother and younger brother. She is constantly helping them out with their struggles but pushes me to the wayside. She even feels like she's obligated to help them but I am not worth helping.



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I tried looking through the book since it's available at the library I work at but I don't think it can really help me. I also didn't get an appointment because the local clinic rejected my health insurance.



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I tried looking through the book since it's available at the library I work at but I don't think it can really help me. I also didn't get an appointment because the local clinic rejected my health insurance.


Why don’t you think it can help you?

Did you read the forward that explains exactly how it does help people in your mental health situation and that the use of the book itself has been analyzed in medical studies and been proven to be at least as effective at treating depression as pharmaceutical treatment options?


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