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13 Apr 2018, 2:52 pm

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It honestly makes my head spin, when guys rage at the guy their girl sleeps with, instead of placing the blame where it belongs. To me it's treating your girlfriend like a child.


Agreed!
Maybe it's because they know how desperate guys tend to be or stereotyped to be for sex & they assume that the guy tricked or coerced their girl into it sense they don't want to wrap their head around the idea of their girl actually cheating on them willingly.


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13 Apr 2018, 4:28 pm

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XFilesGeek wrote:
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It honestly makes my head spin, when guys rage at the guy their girl sleeps with, instead of placing the blame where it belongs. To me it's treating your girlfriend like a child.


Agreed!
Maybe it's because they know how desperate guys tend to be or stereotyped to be for sex & they assume that the guy tricked or coerced their girl into it sense they don't want to wrap their head around the idea of their girl actually cheating on them willingly.


I'm usually accused of being a "feminist," but, as a "feminist," I believe that equal rights means equal responsibility.

Women aren't stupid.

Closet Genious is correct that the woman who is in the relationship bears the most responsibility.


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13 Apr 2018, 4:35 pm

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I recently had sex with a girl from my class, who already has a boyfriend. I didn't even make moves on her, but she became increasingly attracted to me because I make fun of her all the time. She kept contacting me on facebook, and then one night invited me over, and we had sex.

What's your stance on having sex with someone who's already in a relationship? My stance is that I don't really care. It's her responsibility, not mine. I'm single, and it's not my job to make sure other people don't screw their own relationships up.


Your actions are unethical because you are a party to her dishonesty and constitute a disrespect for of the boundaries of a monogamous relationship and a disrespect of her boyfriend.



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13 Apr 2018, 4:40 pm

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Seems you get together well with girls who cheat on their boyfriends... oh, I remember you complaining about something some time ago...
Yes, they are the same league. Maybe you are just attracted to this kind the way I'm attracted to engineers.

But what happened, have you suddenly become wealthy?


I wasn't necessarily going for them, they were the ones who came on to me.
I'm sure putting on the bad boy persona will attract certain females though, so you have a point. All the females in my class seem to like and respect me though.

I am still poor, but I'm in medical school.


I don't know about in Sweden, but in the U.S. doctors can be sanctioned for certain ethics violations. Perhaps not being a party to infidelity but they are prohibited from relationships with patients regardless of who started it.



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13 Apr 2018, 4:44 pm

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To my mind, you guys are the ones rationalizing here. You're taking the responsibility off of her, as if she is a victim... Would you even say the same thing if the genders were reversed? I find it repulsive. She is in a relationship for gods sake! It is her responsibility to guard her own relationship. :roll:


If I were dictator of Sweden you would both be punished. Your "sin" is towards the boyfriends.



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13 Apr 2018, 5:17 pm

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It honestly makes my head spin, when guys rage at the guy their girl sleeps with, instead of placing the blame where it belongs. To me it's treating your girlfriend like a child.


Agreed!
Maybe it's because they know how desperate guys tend to be or stereotyped to be for sex & they assume that the guy tricked or coerced their girl into it sense they don't want to wrap their head around the idea of their girl actually cheating on them willingly.


I'm usually accused of being a "feminist," but, as a "feminist," I believe that equal rights means equal responsibility.

Women aren't stupid.

Closet Genious is correct that the woman who is in the relationship bears the most responsibility.
I'm a male feminist & I agree. My post was just something some guys think, Not how I think thou.

Slightly off topic but this thread reminds me of a radio commercial years ago from this religious leader saying how guys need to pay more attention to their wives so they don't cheat on them. He basically was blaming guys for their wives cheating on them because the guys weren't taking care of their women well enough.


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13 Apr 2018, 5:38 pm

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It honestly makes my head spin, when guys rage at the guy their girl sleeps with, instead of placing the blame where it belongs. To me it's treating your girlfriend like a child.


Your head is going to spin a lot more if you get punched in it by an angry boyfriend.



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13 Apr 2018, 5:39 pm

How’s one do a bad boy persona?
I should probably try it.



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13 Apr 2018, 5:39 pm

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Hefner – maybe but I'm not so sure about all the elderly rockmen and their groupies. I guess it's mainly attractiveness of social status.

And for the "true alphas"... I once came across a graphics describing some lizards mating strategies.
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I'm pretty sure humans are capable of inventing even more competing strategies.


So wouldn’t the op be the yellow lizard in this case.



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13 Apr 2018, 8:00 pm

Ha ha ha. This post is hilarious. You are such a liar. You didn't sleep with her. If you did, prove it. You are so full of s***!



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13 Apr 2018, 8:33 pm

Meh, whatever works for you works for you. I know people in open relationships, I know cheaters etc. It doesn't really bother me what other people do. I know I do what's right for me and that's that.

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^ One of them is



So now do you really realize what's going on among our jungle? If you're having sex with several girls of your class, then you're taking the 'share' of other guys - leaving those guys lonely forever; and it wouldn't be surprising if those who are in relationship would break up with their boyfriends soon to continue having sex with you - and those ex-boyfriends may remain lonely or forever alones for a very long time. Unlike girls (who often get another boyfriend in mere days), It i not uncommon for guys to become chronically-involuntary single after break up.

So there are probably guys out there in your class who may be like lonely romantics like sly/Marknis who would die to have a loving relationship with a classmate but they're rejecting them because....you're stealing their chance indirectly somehow.

The "Alphas don't exist among humans" is a bollocks, we both know that ;).


:lol:

You speak as if there's a pie worth of girls in the class that's to be sliced evenly and distributed to all those who'd like to be sexually active and it's laughable.

There are winners & losers, people who get laid and people who don't, people who get partners and others who don't etc etc.. the OP isn't obligated to leave any crumbs for anyone & he can go ahead and eat every single slice of the pie if he can and wants to.


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13 Apr 2018, 9:09 pm

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To my mind, you guys are the ones rationalizing here. You're taking the responsibility off of her, as if she is a victim... Would you even say the same thing if the genders were reversed? I find it repulsive. She is in a relationship for gods sake! It is her responsibility to guard her own relationship. :roll:

She’s not satisfied with her relationship. You are in effect an enabler and a predator, and you have some deeper issues going on if you’re hunting IAR girls for sport. And you are rationalizing. You can’t put that on us. You are behaving badly and blaming the victim for the pressure you’re putting on her.

I was the same way at one point in college. I “stole” my wife from her ex. I came close to sleeping with one girl who was engaged and actually did go through with it with another. And another girl had just broken up with her fiancé was saving herself for marriage...after I comforted her that night, well, she didn’t have to worry about THAT anymore. There was another IAR girl that didn’t go that far, but I think she would have gone for it. She was dating a friend of mine, plus this freshman guy that I’d been mentoring had a severe crush on her and lost a lot of respect for me after all that blew up, whereas the ex-bf was actually afraid of me and relieved when she fessed up and dumped him.

Not meaning to brag, and I’m not proud of my checkered past. I’m being honest, and those things do NOT reflect positively on me. Your problem is the same problem we all have: you’re being selfish. The difference is the kinds of things I did and what you’re doing is destructive. I hope you see that, and soon.

Funny thing about girls: you can’t really conquer a girl’s heart, mind, soul, and body unless she purposefully surrenders them to you. Men always get a bad rap for seduction and the old pump-and-dump routine, but girls are just as bad. I was wrong for what I did. But those girls wouldn’t have put up with it if they weren’t unhappy with their relationships already. They were using me a lot more than I used them. In two of those situations I walked away first because I could see nothing good would come of it. But if I’d stayed around long enough to bust them up, they’d have dumped me as soon as they were done with me.

This girl is liable to dump you as soon as she gets rid of her bf. You’re just a little something new and fun on the side, but these little ONS flings eventually die away and leave everyone involved empty and wanting something else. You might be a regular Don Juan right now, but you’ll die lonely if you try to keep it up.


As I've already clarified, she was the one who invited me over. She is not a victim my friend, not even in the slightest.

ONS flings is my goal for the time being. I'm more or less just practicing my flirting skills with any girl I happen to find attractive, I'm not specifically hunting down girls who are already in relationships.


The victim in this situation is the guy who doesn't know that he's being cheated on, not you or her. Both her and you are wrong, and you already know that or you wouldn't be asking about this here. You sound like someone who doesn't respect yourself very much.



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13 Apr 2018, 9:15 pm

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Of course it's immoral, but to suggest it's borderline predatory is absurd. The cheaters are ultimately the ones responsible here, he's just the classless guy taking advantage of their disregard for commitment.


According to your morals. Not everyone lives their life by the same moral code, but that doesn't mean they are living an immoral life. They may in fact live a very moral life, according to the morals they believe in. It's irritating when people project their morals onto others and call them immoral.


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13 Apr 2018, 9:39 pm

If there ever were a WP thread where the OP wins with every post he's made, this is it. I definitely side with his points - every single one of them - and he's consistent af. 8)


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13 Apr 2018, 10:02 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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Of course it's immoral, but to suggest it's borderline predatory is absurd. The cheaters are ultimately the ones responsible here, he's just the classless guy taking advantage of their disregard for commitment.


According to your morals. Not everyone lives their life by the same moral code, but that doesn't mean they are living an immoral life. They may in fact live a very moral life, according to the morals they believe in. It's irritating when people project their morals onto others and call them immoral.


I've had sex with other people while in a relationship but my boyfriend knows about it or is usually there with me. I love my boyfriend, we've been together for 9 years and we plan to stay together forever. I am not done with our relationship. Strict monogamy has never made sense to me. I'm super upfront about it and anyone interested in me is usually very open minded anyway. I wouldn't sleep with someone who was in a relationship and would be cheating on their partner by sleeping with me. I agree, everyone has their own moral code.



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13 Apr 2018, 11:52 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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Of course it's immoral, but to suggest it's borderline predatory is absurd. The cheaters are ultimately the ones responsible here, he's just the classless guy taking advantage of their disregard for commitment.


According to your morals. Not everyone lives their life by the same moral code, but that doesn't mean they are living an immoral life. They may in fact live a very moral life, according to the morals they believe in. It's irritating when people project their morals onto others and call them immoral.


I don't see how you can justify sleeping with somebody else's partner behind their back. Do you also think stealing candy from babies and kicking puppies in the face isn't immoral?