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Just because they're aware of stuff like that doesn't make it fair game to talk about it to them.
Those weren't exactly the words you used, either.

Please, goldfish, you're being very overbearing. Just accept you crossed a boundary, and it was an accident.
There's no shame in that. This is just embarrassing now.

Um, were you around other humans at all when you were 17? 17 year olds talk about this stuff plenty - as they should; males reach their sexual prime at ~18-19 years old. 'tis but human nature. Regardless of what my exact words were, I still didn't say anything explicit nor obscene, so, get over it.

Again, you need to accept that YOUR boundaries are not MY boundaries nor every other person's, culture's, or society's around the world. I have no idea where you live or how you were raised, but in my 35 years on this planet, surface level discussions of dating & human sexuality are a complete non-issue and quite normalized between friends/acquaintances. There was no accident in anything I wrote, it was 100% intentional, and I was careful Not to cross any boundaries into anything that could be considered explicit, obscene, or pornographic. I'm starting to get embarrassed for you not comprehending this tbh.

golfish21 wrote: "I disagree. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, threads discussing treating the digestive root cause of ASD get intentionally torpedo'd by people who are anti-treatment and then they get locked forcing the creation of a new one."

1.) Reading and discussing scientific research and findings with others ~ oh this is so always a bonus from my perspective, as it gives us the opportunity to refine our understanding, and to define our comprehension of and about things.

2.) When it comes to discussing the treatment of the 'digestive root cause' of Autistic Spectrum Disorder ~ there is the problem that gastrointestinal disorders involve from 23 to 70% of children with Autistic Spectrum Disorder, just as genetic causality involves from 50 to 83% of children with A.S..D ~ leaving about 17 to 50% with another contributory factor.

3.) This contributory or in fact unifying factor, appears to be cellular oxygen deprivation due to the instinctual freeze, flight or fight reflex ~ of the mother, foetus, or child ~ having been triggered and remaining so to become long term accumulative stress, and or account of suddenly being traumatically shocked or stunned: a) from about the 5 months of pregnancy; b) during the delivery process, and or c) up to about 3 years or so after delivery. This is in contrast to before individual mobility and autonomy have been primarily established, in respect of neurologically typical children, and their natural and nurtural development.

4.) The most significant causative factor of A.S.D., and Neurological Development Disorders then, appears very much to be 'socio-ill-logical' and international dysfunction ~ involving psychological, physiological and environmental pollution.

goldfish21 wrote: "The one thing that slightly irritates me about that thread is the double standard in forum rules: Apparently it's a-okay for several other people to break the forum rules about personal attacks and call me insulting names because they don't agree with me. I don't report their posts because I'm not a tattle-tail and have never reported a post ever, but it still doesn't make it right that just because they don't agree with me (or perhaps understand or believe or w/e) that they should have free reign to say rude things to me."

5.) Well two alternative options are perhaps report the abuse and thereby have it stopped, as is quite rightly and responsibly befitting, or else completely ignore the abusive posts ~ keeping in mind the expression that "It takes two to tango", and all that.

goldfish21 wrote: "But whatever, there'll be more threads discussing specific medical studies & what professional research doctors have learned and are learning."

6.) Absolutely


[Originally posted at 7:14 on the 22/05/18, edit period ended, so copied and pasted it to my PC, corrected paragraphs 2 and 3, then deleted the original and reposted as is now the case]

I'm 57....and I'm still at my "sexual peak."

I hate it when people talk about "sexual peaks." That just irks me. It's just ego-driven, that's all.

I said sexual prime, and it's a biological term. At that age males desire sex most and are most fertile in terms of reproduction capabilities. Women are said to be in their sexual prime around 35 years old. It's not about ego. It's about evolution and perpetuation of the species.

Nah I'm not actively looking here. A while back there were meetups happening in my area that were organised through this site. If I'd started something romantic with someone I met, great, but that's not the primary focus.

As for L&D subforum in particular, I come here primarily to give my insight to hopefully help others. I don't come here to help improve my own situation.

If someone was to PM me and there was potential, I wouldn't have a problem with pursuing it. I'm not scampering around behind the scenes flirting with lots of members in PM, though Barely messaging anyone at all, for any reason, actually.

Potentially maybe though I don't think chasing relationships would be effective to do, just it might happen if it will. It is better than the dating websites which I hear have a lot of fake accounts to make it appear as though there are more women, from the sounds of it the ratio is more like 100:1.

But need a lot of work on myself. Ironically is in part because I have been told I have the "twink" look which I don't feel good about. I'm straight and don't feel it's something that would be attractive to women.

I want to learn better style and stuff but feel paralysis about it since it might make me more "twink". Reading this topic helped me word this but I feel "feminine" in appearance/mannerisms and it makes me more insecure.

This is interesting, can you tell me more about this? Mitigating ASD symptoms even temporarily could be a big boost towards learning more social skills and thus help mitigate some of the downsides of ASD.

I can still make babies. I'm 57 years old. Evolution hasn't passed me by.

But I do get your point---but it's only a scientific point. It's not a HUMAN point.

Um, yes, it is a human point. Human males are in their sexual prime at approx 18-19 years old, according to science.

Guys even decades older than 57 can father children. Just because someone is passed their sexual prime doesn’t mean they’re infertile.

"But need a lot of work on myself. Ironically is in part because I have been told I have the "twink" look which I don't feel good about. I'm straight and don't feel it's something that would be attractive to women."

Perhaps consider that the "twink" look just involves having the boyish fresh look, and both men and women go for it to particular extents ~ just try and make sure that interested women are after your inner you also, sort of thing.

"Mitigating ASD symptoms even temporarily could be a big boost towards learning more social skills and thus help mitigate some of the downsides of ASD."

Well due to the instinctual freeze, flight and flight systems getting fully primed some time before, during or after delivery, cortisol and adrenaline levels are run higher for some people with autism, meaning that the body is essentially always under stress, resulting in body acid increases and toxicology with it of course ~ which is bad for the good bacteria of the fluid systems in the body, and they tend not to fare to well.

Taking gut-flora capsules along with following a well balanced diet, with glutathione high content foods (such as: asparagus, potatoes, peppers, carrots, onion, broccoli, avocados, squash, spinach, garlic, tomatoes, grapefruit, apples, oranges, peaches bananas and melon) works a treat, leaving them more relaxed and better focused in general. As far as the gut-flora capsules go ~ perhaps try your local chemist or health food shop, or else the following link perhaps:

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Basically gut-flora capsules are quite safe to take as a medicinal support, just be careful not to overdo it and start on a minimal dose for perhaps a month or two so you can adjust slowly. One easy method of boosting the gut-flora is something called Sauerkraut ~ finely cut cabbage that has been fermented by various lactic acid bacteria. It has a long shelf life and a distinctive sour flavor, both of which result from the lactic acid that forms ~ providing you like that sort of thing of course.

If that helps perhaps?

I find “sexual primes” and all that to be irrelevant.

If I fall in love with an infertile woman, and she wants kids, we’ll adopt.

It’s science...but it’s irrelevant to my experience

Not meant as a criticism of science. More like a message against an over-reliance on it.

I feel like I am attractive to gay men, some tell me this. I can definitely do the boyish fresh look if I get higher fashion kind of clothes and hair style. Right now I feel probably like 6/10 as a "twink" kind of guy when trying to downplay it, would otherwise be 7. Maybe 8 if I did the opposite, was still 140lbs and purposely went for the look. For instance, I could use some skincare products but worry about if it becomes "too perfect".

Part of it is a sense that women may not see me as a "manly" guy and won't think of me as a potential partner. I think it's also the shyness/simply not having much to say/lack of overtly aggressive behaviour and strange mannerisms that come across as effeminate. I feel kind of like I fit the stereotype, I don't have problem with the stereotype but doesn't feel to me like what I would think is attractive to women.


Yes very helpful.

Can you tell me a brief explanation of what the benefits would be for this to help get me excited about it? I notice I have a hard time really caring about things unless I can get my inner nerd connected to it. When I can tie things in with my special interests/nerdisms I can get really engaged with it or even a bit obsessed. There is a lot to take in with all this stuff so this is probably the best way for me. If I can get really interested maybe I'll buy a book or find a Youtube channel about it.

I already had began to have some thoughts about this kind of topic as I am starting to think about metabolism boosters. It may be because I had been trying to build muscle but my body fat is increasing noticeably. I stopped loading protein/drinking protein shake but it still slowly goes up. I think my muscle level is at a better place so I will shift strategy from trying to gain muscle rapidly without caring much about body fat to trying to manage body fat or reduce it somewhat while gaining muscle at a slower pace. I think my metabolism is shifting out of the "teen/young adult" phase into the 30's and up kind of guy's phase where it's much harder to burn fat and the body is really efficient at storing fat.

I recall reading about Sauerkraut some time ago for weight effects so definitely think I'll pick some up.

No, not interested in dating/hookup/romantic interests.

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I feel like I am attractive to gay men, some tell me this.


Bonus ~ being attractive to gay men means you will be attractive to women who like straight men that way. Perhaps recall or consider anew that we are now in the age of metrosexuality (i.e. urban heterosexual men who enjoy shopping, fashion, and similar interests traditionally associated with women or homosexual men), or consider perhaps as one female friend a number of years back sarcastically but very much jokingly put it, "Finally ~ at last ~ men not being complete and utter slobs as a general rule!" Females present ~ males present


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I can definitely do the boyish fresh look if I get higher fashion kind of clothes and hair style. Right now I feel probably like 6/10 as a "twink" kind of guy when trying to downplay it, would otherwise be 7. Maybe 8 if I did the opposite, was still 140lbs and purposely went for the look. For instance, I could use some skincare products but worry about if it becomes "too perfect".


Maybe "twink" factor 6 (of for more casual states of affairs, 7 (of for less-casual-more-smart states of affairs, and 8 (of for the wedding ceremony ~ never ever forget though to keep on courting through the entirety of any relationship, as it really is the little things that matter to most females.

SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

Part of it is a sense that women may not see me as a "manly" guy and won't think of me as a potential partner.


Well some women that want a "blokey-bloke" won't perhaps think of you as a potential partner, but that does not fully exclude women who may want to make you into a manly-man or blokey-bloke, nor those especially who really would much prefer a metrosexual male ~ perhaps?


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I think it's also the shyness/simply not having much to say/lack of overtly aggressive behaviour and strange mannerisms that come across as effeminate.


Well in terms of not having much to say, perhaps read some current general interest stuff regularly, and use it here and there to get or keep discussions on the go. I for instance used to keep a 'black book' (a pocket journal) with a news clipping from each day stuck in it, and it became a tradition that I would inform everybody about weird and strange facts from the newspapers each week. You guys have the internet and smart phones now ~ so I suppose it is more a self confidence thing possibly?

Strange and interesting fact ~ some women do in fact prefer for a change to actually get listened too, with supporting vocal sounds like 'mmm' and so fourth demonstrating agreement or disagreement etcetera at key points. So speaking is not always the desired option ~ as listening is fundamental anyway.

With the lacking of overt aggression, at one end of the female spectrum some women get really aroused by that sort of blokey-block rugged burliness, and at the other end of the female spectrum there are other women are terrified or repulsed by aggression and violence ~ with the latter preferring a calm, considerate, private gentleman. The silent and mysterious type ~ such as in place one years back there was this guy who used to do the knowing look but very rarely ever said anything, and he had numerous women who hung out with him. And most people were curious about him, so I went and privately asked him what his thing was. He told me he did not have clue what was going on, but as long as women thought he did ~ it worked for him,


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I feel kind of like I fit the stereotype, I don't have problem with the stereotype but doesn't feel to me like what I would think is attractive to women.

Consider perhaps the autistic stereotype, i.e. 'once you have met one autistic person; you have met one autistic person' and consider also maybe how that applies to everybody in terms of being individuals ~ individuals that have never ever at any one time been in the same position as anyone else on this planet, with each having a different perspective of life as it has involved, and with therefore a different perspective of what life could involve ~ from the most conservative to the most innovative outlook. Now of course most females want to have a house, a partner and do the family thing with someone, just as most males do. There the stereotype ends. Perhaps then inwardly instead celebrate your individuality more, and as such get the attention of a woman who will enjoy celebrating her individuality inwardly more with you also.


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

Can you tell me a brief explanation of what the benefits would be for this to help get me excited about it?


Staying well healthy and fit until you disembody in however many decades perhaps?


'Ridiculously healthy' elderly have the same gut microbiome as healthy 30-year-olds

Date: 10/11/2017
Source: University of Western Ontario
Summary: In one of the largest microbiota studies conducted in humans, researchers
have shown a link between healthy aging and a healthy gut.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171011123728.htm

It is tad tricky providing information to interest you as aside from attracting a female I do not really have a clue what interests you, or what might spark your interest.


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I notice I have a hard time really caring about things unless I can get my inner nerd connected to it. When I can tie things in with my special interests/nerdisms I can get really engaged with it or even a bit obsessed. There is a lot to take in with all this stuff so this is probably the best way for me. If I can get really interested maybe I'll buy a book or find a Youtube channel about it.

I already had began to have some thoughts about this kind of topic as I am starting to think about metabolism boosters. It may be because I had been trying to build muscle but my body fat is increasing noticeably. I stopped loading protein/drinking protein shake but it still slowly goes up. I think my muscle level is at a better place so I will shift strategy from trying to gain muscle rapidly without caring much about body fat to trying to manage body fat or reduce it somewhat while gaining muscle at a slower pace. I think my metabolism is shifting out of the "teen/young adult" phase into the 30's and up kind of guy's phase where it's much harder to burn fat and the body is really efficient at storing fat.

It does help rather to develop muscle slowly, over the years, or else what quickly develops as muscle quickly turns to fat once people age and cannot or do not at whatever stage keep up with the exercise requirement. It reads as if you have been working to an ideal of what your body could be, in the sense of fuelling it too much, rather than working progressively with the reality of your body and exercising and fuelling it accordingly. Basically eat when hungry, drink when thirsty and so fourth when doing physiological development, and respect the flesh sort of thing ~ as it is also autistic in your case too

Your thinking is definitely though well on track with taking the muscle development slowly, so total bonus and fair play on clocking that one. Getting your gut bacteria colonies appropriately proportioned with a good diet and exercise routine will help keep you keep fit and healthy, and that is what most women along with individual reliability like the most concerning their partners. Keeping the old mind-body relationship paired up well definitely makes pairing up well with others easier.


SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:

I recall reading about Sauerkraut some time ago for weight effects so definitely think I'll pick some up.


Maybe the proof in the pudding effect with the Sauerkraut will be self evident for you as it has been for me and others. I am definitely interested in how you fare with it, and let me know of course if your inner nerd is on the go or not regarding the above information.