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16 Sep 2020, 8:21 am

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I have *always* thought having children was a bad idea. :mrgreen:

Can confirm. It's definitely a bad idea.


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16 Sep 2020, 8:24 am

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Having children is a selfish indulgence.


In my experience, you have more opportunity for selfish indulgence when you don't have children.


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16 Sep 2020, 9:46 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Having children is a selfish indulgence.


In my experience, you have more opportunity for selfish indulgence when you don't have children.
I would believe that. There are cases where parents grow to resnt their kids cuz the parents were not expecting the kids to be nearlly as much work as the kids turned out to be. I read some stuff about autism that claim three 4ths of parents of autistic kids get divorced.
People have kids for lots of reasons. I heard of cases where the girl supposidley lied about being on birth control so the girl could trick the guy in order to get pregnant so the guy would stay with her or so she could get child-support. I also heard of some couples having kids in order to keep their trobled marriage together. Those seem like very selfish reasons to have kids i don't think many people have kids for those reasons thou.


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16 Sep 2020, 8:15 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Having children is a selfish indulgence.


In my experience, you have more opportunity for selfish indulgence when you don't have children.


Nah. Having children is selfish. People don't magically become selfless and loving because they breed. The amount of child abuse cases and kids in foster care is testament to that.

You're bringing a child into the world without their consent to fill your own emotional needs. That's not "selfless."


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17 Sep 2020, 3:15 am

Bringing a child into the world hasn't helped my emotional needs at all.


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18 Sep 2020, 2:42 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Having children is a selfish indulgence.


In my experience, you have more opportunity for selfish indulgence when you don't have children.

Perhaps.
But your statement doesn't affect my statement is any way. 8)



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18 Sep 2020, 2:48 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Having children is a selfish indulgence.


In my experience, you have more opportunity for selfish indulgence when you don't have children.


Nah. Having children is selfish. People don't magically become selfless and loving because they breed. The amount of child abuse cases and kids in foster care is testament to that.

You're bringing a child into the world without their consent to fill your own emotional needs. That's not "selfless."


Precisely.

I am not saying it is morally "wrong" for an organism to be guided by its genetic coding.
I am simply saying the person is driven by their personal needs.

Don't most adolescents condemn their parents for bringing them into the world? :scratch:



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18 Sep 2020, 3:14 am

I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


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18 Sep 2020, 4:42 am

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I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


To exist or not to exist....that is the question?



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18 Sep 2020, 7:48 am

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I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


I kick myself for not strangling myself with my own umbilical cord while I was still in the womb. :mrgreen:

There is a thread somewhere called "Missed opportunities".
I might go and post there, now. :twisted: :mrgreen:



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18 Sep 2020, 9:01 am

cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


To exist or not to exist....that is the question?


Mom: "One kick if you wanna be born, two if you wanna be aborted".



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19 Sep 2020, 3:04 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


To exist or not to exist....that is the question?


Mom: "One kick if you wanna be born, two if you wanna be aborted".


Just one of those days where I feel like I should have kicked twice. :nerdy:


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19 Sep 2020, 4:16 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


To exist or not to exist....that is the question?


Mom: "One kick if you wanna be born, two if you wanna be aborted".


Just one of those days where I feel like I should have kicked twice. :nerdy:


True story: mom really wanted to abort me. Don't ask how I found out.



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19 Sep 2020, 10:13 pm

Apparently my parents wanted a girl. So both my brother and I were mistakes (shrug shoulders emoji)....



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19 Sep 2020, 10:20 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I've always felt it was a rather rotten thing to do, to force another person to have to exist. I sure wish I had of been consulted before it was foist upon me.


To exist or not to exist....that is the question?


Mom: "One kick if you wanna be born, two if you wanna be aborted".


Just one of those days where I feel like I should have kicked twice. :nerdy:


True story: mom really wanted to abort me. Don't ask how I found out.

My mum never wanted to abort me, but my parents weren't planning to have children.

Seeing as I was an "accident", my mum's always framed it as me really wanting to come into the world or something. I'm not feeling that.