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25 Mar 2021, 11:51 am

I don't even need to watch my Austin Powers movies anymore. All I have to do is come to Love and Dating to get my entertainment. :lol:

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25 Mar 2021, 12:06 pm

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Unless you're talking about stunning blonde men I'm not sure the less attractive women are fairing very well here either.

The thing is that even average looking women are getting much more matches and dating opportunities compared to average looking men. A woman who's objectively a 5 or 6 is going on Tinder and is still getting plenty of matches and male attention. A man who's a 5 or 6 is going on Tinder and having a hard time even getting matches, let alone going on a date. The point is that there is no gender equality in online dating; women hold all of the advantage.

Your statement would be true however for below average looking women. Girls who are clearly overweight and objectively ugly are probably struggling, but this is the bottom 10% of women. If you're in the top 85% of women looks-wise, you're going to get dates with very little difficulty. That's just the way it works.

That's because men on tinder outnumber women by at least 10 to 1.

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25 Mar 2021, 3:56 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:

I don't even need to watch my Austin Powers movies anymore. All I have to do is come to Love and Dating to get my entertainment. :lol:

These movies are so vulgar yet....

....so funny.

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25 Mar 2021, 5:07 pm

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It must be really hard to build social confidence when there's almost always a screen or some sort of anonymity between people who are seeking relationships.

This truly saddens me.

I think all human connection suffers for this substitute, not only romance but platonic and casual hang outs as well....

Grandparents don't bother to visit a grandchild because they can look at it over a screen.

That kid grows up believing that screens are genuine human connection. In turn, it relates to its friends and lovers as it relates to a screen, not human beings.

That, to me, is sad.....

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25 Mar 2021, 5:08 pm

You know they broke the James Bond franchise, right? Those are cold and humorless now because they couldn't compete.

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25 Mar 2021, 8:13 pm

Muse933277 wrote:

We need to talk about another problem that may be contributing to male virginity being on the rise.

Internet porn

Internet porn can sap men's motivation to go out and pursue real women because porn gives men an easy way to get their sexual needs met without putting in the hard work and effort to pursue real women who will oftentimes reject them. Why go to the bar and talk to that 10/10 blonde who will likely reject you anyways, when you can go watch some porn of a 10/10 blonde who would never reject you? Porn is easier and will never reject you, unlike real women.

One reason why men pursue women is because they're horny and are trying to get their sexual needs met. You think a girl is hot, you are sexually attracted to her, and this is your motivation to go and ask her out. But if you're already getting your sexual needs met from watching tons of porn, now you're not as motivated to pursue real women. And if you're not pursuing real women, you're probably staying single, unless your lucky enough to have a girl approach you first.

This will probably make me shallow, but choosing a girlfriend isn't exactly like the way you choose to pick an item or dinner from a menu. I have my share of frustration with not getting to be with or even have conversation at all with a woman who I saw as attractive on my part. The male sex drive is more like a curse in this regard, it could scare other women away if not careful and sometimes its too late.

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25 Mar 2021, 8:15 pm

Fnord wrote:

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That is all a fine commentary on pornography, but what about guys who are not always driven by sexual desire?

Believe it or not, there really are some men who put higher priority on establishing relationships than on "getting laid" -- which is not to say they are not interested in sex, but that they realize that sex is not everything in a relationship -- and they still strike out.

Or in some people the one interacts with the other.

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26 Mar 2021, 1:43 am

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Why does capitalism have to do with it?

Well, workers are fundamentally alienated from their labor for one thing, because they have no control or meaningful representation in the workplace. They are merely cogs in a corporate machine and often can't connect their labor to the purpose it serves in the community. Businesses are designed to keep employees from socializing because if they get to know each other they might unionize. People are so focused on "hustling" that they don't have time to form meaningful human relationships. Our public images are even becoming digital commodities nowadays on social media. Many live in suburbs, don't talk to their neighbors, drive in their own car to work, work, and drive home. Where's the room for socializing in that?

You can't divorce how people interact from the economic structures which they live under. It used to be that people lived communally, and everyone in the village would know each other. Kids would be raised communally "it takes a village," as they say. People would know the town's blacksmith, the farmers would cooperate in times of need, etc. There is a communal identity in pre-modern living that we haven't found an adequate replacement for yet. I'm NOT saying we should go back to feudalism or something, fyi.

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26 Mar 2021, 3:13 pm

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I'm listening to him too. I agree with his analysis of how society has become far less social, and the opportunities for people meeting in meaningful contexts have decreased substantially. I feel for men and I believe the stats / trend in general. I think there are a lot of factors that need to be considered, but it's true overall that society and the media as a whole has shifted its priorities, and changed the socialisation patterns of young people, as well as the way people perceive relationships.

Solution: Destroy the internet! (or at least destroy most parts of it).

No, don't destroy the Internet. We just need a change in priorities as to how people use the Internet. Less Facebook, less video games, and more Meetup.com and similar sites to help people find groups of people to get together with in real life.

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26 Mar 2021, 3:29 pm

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If indeed that's true, perhaps it might be because a lot more men than women use Tinder in the first place?

According to Tinder Revenue and Usage Statistics (2021):

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US Tinder users by gender
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Male 72%
Female 28%

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26 Mar 2021, 3:32 pm

Now that blame has been assigned, does anyone have any realistic and practical solutions that: (1) have been proven to work every time; (2) do not involve destruction or harm; and (3) do not involve coercion or force?

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26 Mar 2021, 3:44 pm

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You can't divorce how people interact from the economic structures which they live under. It used to be that people lived communally, and everyone in the village would know each other. Kids would be raised communally "it takes a village," as they say. People would know the town's blacksmith, the farmers would cooperate in times of need, etc. There is a communal identity in pre-modern living that we haven't found an adequate replacement for yet. I'm NOT saying we should go back to feudalism or something, fyi.

Probably the closest thing to old-fashioned communalism, these days, is various niche urban subcultures, including:

- The more tight-knit religious subcultures.
- Immigrant communities.
- Various organized subcultures of people who would otherwise be outcasts, e.g. the LGBTQ+ community.
- Old-fashioned fraternal organizations such as the Freemasons, for those few people who are still into them.

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26 Mar 2021, 4:18 pm

r00tb33r wrote:

You know they broke the James Bond franchise, right? Those are cold and humorless now because they couldn't compete.

Youngsters won't under the humors in Austin Powers.

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26 Mar 2021, 4:46 pm

There is no "cure" for the alleged "skyrocketing" rate of male virginity that does not involve both the active participation men and the willing participation of women.

For men to actively participate, they must first get off their lazy butts and make themselves desirable to women.

For women to willingly participate, they must first be assured of their safety, their health, and maybe their anonymity.

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26 Mar 2021, 4:52 pm

One way to make yourself not a virgin-----is to not care that you are a virgin. That you are equal in all ways to someone who is not a virgin.

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26 Mar 2021, 4:54 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

One way to make yourself not a virgin-----is to not care that you are a virgin. That you are equal in all ways to someone who is not a virgin.

Ooo ... thought-magic!

If you think of yourself as not a virgin, that magically makes you not a virgin, right?

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