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gwenevyn
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05 Aug 2007, 1:27 am

Mitch8817 wrote:

Women have gotten smarter, more independent, and so I feel relationships should reflect this. Instead, all I see is women getting as drunk as men and being just us whore-ish and shallow.

Very good point! I hadn't thought of taking that particular societal change into consideration.

Funny how the feminist revolution degenerated like that.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:31 am

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Pugly wrote:

Is it wrong to treat someone as a mind accessory?

Haha!

Bringing along a braniac date to make oneself look smarter at a cocktail party.... now there's an idea few men have thought of!

This is my trophy* wife.

*Chess tournament trophy.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:37 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Mitch8817 wrote:

Women have gotten smarter, more independent, and so I feel relationships should reflect this. Instead, all I see is women getting as drunk as men and being just us whore-ish and shallow.

Very good point! I hadn't thought of taking that particular societal change into consideration.

Funny how the feminist revolution degenerated like that.

Just as people appreciate the things they no longer have, they squander the things that they do. We're all guilty, not just the feminists.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:42 am

Mitch8817 wrote:

Just as people appreciate the things they no longer have, they squander the things that they do. We're all guilty, not just the feminists.

I think I'd better tattoo that one on my forehead.

It goes well with my favorite Frankl quote:

"Live as if you were living already for the second time and as if you had acted the first time as wrongly as you are about to act now."

And watch out Pugly, or I'll gift you with another Murray Head photo.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:43 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Mitch8817 wrote:

Women have gotten smarter, more independent, and so I feel relationships should reflect this. Instead, all I see is women getting as drunk as men and being just us whore-ish and shallow.

Very good point! I hadn't thought of taking that particular societal change into consideration.

Funny how the feminist revolution degenerated like that.

It's always seemed to me that women instead of trying to change men's bad behavior like boorishness, infidelity tolerance, pointless competition, etc and their unfortunate mistreatment... they just adopted this behavior for themselves.

The goal shouldn't be to be more like men...men left unchecked are terrible.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:48 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Mitch8817 wrote:

Just as people appreciate the things they no longer have, they squander the things that they do. We're all guilty, not just the feminists.

Your quote reminds me of a part in a game where a story is told.

An elderly man was sitting alone on a dark path, right? He wasn't certain of which direction to go, and he'd forgotten both where he was traveling to and who he was. He'd sat down for a moment to rest his weary legs, and suddenly looked up to see an elderly woman before him. She grinned toothlessly and with a cackle, spoke: "Now your *third* wish. What will it be?"
"Third wish?" The man was baffled. "How can it be a third wish if I haven't had a first and second wish?"
"You've had two wishes already," the hag said, "but your second wish was for me to return everything to the way it was before you had made your first wish. That's why you remember nothing; because everything is the way it was before you made any wishes." She cackled at the poor berk. "So it is that you have one wish left."
"All right," said the man, "I don't believe this, but there's no harm in wishing. I wish to know who I am."
"Funny," said the old woman as she granted his wish and disappeared forever. "That was your first wish."

5 points to who gets the game. A true classic.

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05 Aug 2007, 1:53 am

I had to google it. They were always trying to get me to play that game, but I never actually got around to it. I'll not say it, in case somebody really does know the answer without cheating.

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05 Aug 2007, 2:16 am

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And watch out Pugly, or I'll gift you with another Murray Head photo.

No, let me...

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=t8b0y9GsJ80[/youtube]

Rock On!

(man I shouldn't de-rail threads like this...)

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05 Aug 2007, 2:21 am

Pugly wrote:

gwenevyn wrote:

And watch out Pugly, or I'll gift you with another Murray Head photo.

No, let me...

I was worried we were going to get rick roll'd there.

Heh, that video always makes me laugh. It's right up there with "Rock Me Amadeus" and "Der Kommissar". The 80's were great.

Quote:

(man I shouldn't de-rail threads like this...)

Hey, what are we, on page six or something? It was time for intermission.

(eta: page five... I was close!)

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05 Aug 2007, 2:47 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Pugly wrote:

gwenevyn wrote:

And watch out Pugly, or I'll gift you with another Murray Head photo.

No, let me...

I was worried we were going to get rick roll'd there.

Heh, that video always makes me laugh. It's right up there with "Rock Me Amadeus" and "Der Kommissar". The 80's were great.

This reminds me of my friend... he played Falco in Smash Bros... and he learned that Falco also wrote the song "Rock Me Amadeus." Well needless to say our days we're filled with him repeating that song ad nauseam...

Also, this same friend... after hearing Strong Sad sing a bit of "One Night in Bangkok... " kept on repeating this over and over again.

Great stuff.

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05 Aug 2007, 3:30 am

lol, from reading over all this I think all we've established is that you can never be really sure what anybody you meet wants, because they want mostly the same things, but place different values on each of them.

Although that comforts me slightly in that it means all women are not the same.

And hopefully the girls can see that neither are we men.

:lol:

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05 Aug 2007, 4:54 am

gwenevyn wrote:

But it seems to me that a good-looking woman has always been a status symbol for wealthy men throughout the ages.

Nah. Nobility would have their
playthings. Wives came with
land. Or alliances.

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05 Aug 2007, 4:56 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Mitch8817 wrote:

Women have gotten smarter, more independent, and so I feel relationships should reflect this. Instead, all I see is women getting as drunk as men and being just us whore-ish and shallow.

Very good point! I hadn't thought of taking that particular societal change into consideration.

Funny how the feminist revolution degenerated like that.

I don't see it as degeneration. Sure,
everyone goes out and plays a bit now.

But, most marriages seem to fall apart because the
woman CAN leave now.

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05 Aug 2007, 4:59 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Heh, that video always makes me laugh. It's right up there with "Rock Me Amadeus" and "Der Kommissar". The 80's were great.

Der Kommissar was cool.
The other song was (c)rap,
as far as I'm concerned.
Little difference.

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05 Aug 2007, 7:24 am

gwenevyn
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05 Aug 2007, 11:39 am

calandale wrote:

gwenevyn wrote:

But it seems to me that a good-looking woman has always been a status symbol for wealthy men throughout the ages.

Nah. Nobility would have their
playthings. Wives came with
land. Or alliances.

Said "woman", not "wife".

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I don't see it as degeneration. Sure,
everyone goes out and plays a bit now.

But, most marriages seem to fall apart because the
woman CAN leave now.

So let me get this straight... marriages fall, not because of the offenses committed, but because women choose to leave.

I'm going to roll my eyes at you for the first time. Ready?

:roll:

Better to strive for perfection, not the current statistical "normality". I expect people to behave, no matter the how many of them aren't. If might makes right, nothing's worth doing.

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