Why do girls get to just sit around and get guys?

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17 Sep 2008, 1:49 pm

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The answer to your question is today's permissive society has abandoned the restraints which used to stop females from getting too big-headed or selfish.


Are you suggesting that women used to ask men to dance more often, back in the 'good old days'?



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17 Sep 2008, 1:55 pm

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well sure, guys are usually the ones that have to step up to the plate. But when it comes to controlling/abusive relationships, women are more often the victim.

"Victim"? Ha ha ha! They need to stop pulling that "victim" BS, and take responsibility for their own actions. If a slut gets her head beaten in, it's probably her fault for rejecting the guys who would've been more likely to treat her with respect.


so you think 'beating someone's head in' is an appropriate response if someone rejects you?



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17 Sep 2008, 1:57 pm

I get flirted with fairly often just I don't like most b/c they're either guys or they're just not my type.


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17 Sep 2008, 1:58 pm

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It really is distressing to see so many Aspie males haivng singleness forced upon them.


Aspie women tend to be single more than the NT norm, too.



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17 Sep 2008, 2:42 pm

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Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand?

Not-initiating is one of the female's advantages in the dating world which make them the pickers , they won't given it up with nothing in return just because you said so.


I am quoting my post to show it again...

Answer this question protoss :Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand with nothing in return?

Girls won't wish to inverse the rule of initiation, it won't be in their favor.


LPP - I have seen such a thing... it is called sacrifice, and it is something which does happen in love.


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17 Sep 2008, 3:06 pm

26% of females make the first move. I found this interesting.


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17 Sep 2008, 3:09 pm

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26% of females make the first move. I found this interesting.


*nod* Sometimes it is subtle, and we miss it. I prefer women who are direct than those who shy along as wallflowers... I'm a dense SOB, I must admit.


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17 Sep 2008, 3:11 pm

Yeah, but we should make every effort to initiate.


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17 Sep 2008, 3:39 pm

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Yeah, but we should make every effort to initiate.


Well, depending on what you want... there have been few times when I have fully initiated contact with someone I was attracted to - more a dance, interplay, than onesided.


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17 Sep 2008, 4:08 pm

I do that all the time.


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18 Sep 2008, 1:01 am

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What, years of getting rejected by women and then kicking the sh** out of them?

Only the first of those; the second is unthinkable to me. But a lot of violent males might do that to them.

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There is no excuse for misogyny, ever, ever, ever.

Excuse me! This is going to sound like the old "Some of my best friends are [insert racial epithet]", but here goes anyway: Firstly, my mother is female. She's been wonderful to me over the years. Secondly, my landlord - the best landlord you could ask for! Plus a couple of my best friends are women. (Told you it would sound like...) :)

But over the years, when I was younger and everyone my age was enjoying first love, I was written off as Not Relationship Material. No-one ever set me up with anyone, or said "See that girl? I think she likes you", or any such thing. Sure I might be impaired in reading non-verbal cues, but I could tell when they found another guy attractive!



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18 Sep 2008, 4:43 am

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So you think 'beating someone's head in' is an appropriate response if someone rejects you?

No, of course I don't! If they're attracted to violent types, that's an inherent risk, isn't it? But I'm someone who will wouldn't hit them under any circumstances. Is that clear?



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18 Sep 2008, 10:10 am

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So you think 'beating someone's head in' is an appropriate response if someone rejects you?

No, of course I don't! If they're attracted to violent types, that's an inherent risk, isn't it? But I'm someone who will wouldn't hit them under any circumstances. Is that clear?


I'm glad to hear it. Your first post sounded like it was justifying the action (by someone else if not yourself), and I had hoped that it was just unclear. Regardless of the type of man a woman likes, it's the man who attacks her that is committing an unnecessary evil, not her.



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18 Sep 2008, 10:36 am

Glad to have cleared that up.



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19 Sep 2008, 11:04 am

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And I can guarantee, from prior experience, that being with someone who treats you like dirt is worse than being alone.


of course, an you'd think it would be blatantly obvious, but most people see it as follows:

1. The worst possible fate is to be with a 'weirdo'
2. The second worst fate is to be alone.
3. The next worst fate is to be in an abusive relationship - preferable to being alone ('beat me, but don't leave me')
4. The best fate, while it does involve some personality criteria (see point 1), the majority of people meet them - more stringent criteria involved are 'hot girl' or 'rich guy with fancy job'


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19 Sep 2008, 11:33 am

makuranososhi wrote:
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Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand?

Not-initiating is one of the female's advantages in the dating world which make them the pickers , they won't given it up with nothing in return just because you said so.


I am quoting my post to show it again...

Answer this question protoss :Have you ever seen a human abandoned an advantage in hand with nothing in return?

Girls won't wish to inverse the rule of initiation, it won't be in their favor.


LPP - I have seen such a thing... it is called sacrifice, and it is something which does happen in love.


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I don't believe in Sacrifice in love , no one makes sacrifices for nothing in return. That would be called unconditional love and it doesn't exist among couples.