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18 Jul 2011, 6:21 pm

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Pretend that your life experiences have shown you that absolutely no girl is interested in you because of your aspergian characteristics. Well, that's not strictly true BUT rather, it's that SO FEW girls in real life are interested in you that doing the "searching process" is not sufficiently efficient like it is for your everyday NT such that it's kind of impractical. So, what do you do when you have a sex drive? Get a prostitute! Simple, quick and far less costly.

This seems totally rational to me. What's your take?

Masturbation (along with porn) is another option which has helped me to release desire (thank God for masturbation and thank God for porn), what I mean, is that going with prostitutes is not the only "rational" option to follow, not saying you shouldn't, after all, I lost my virginity with one, and to date (which have been 10 years by now), I have done it with prostitutes only, and PROBABLY I will never have sex with a woman who is not a prostitute. In any case, that depends on each individual, I understand the risk of STDs and AIDS, and this is why I have decided to stop, for the time being.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:23 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Mortal KOMBAAAAAAAT


DOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOO

FIGHT!

DOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOO

TEST YOUR MIGHT!


this is not appropriate. we're not here to fight, but to encourage the OP in his initial idea to pay a visit to MXH's mom. I'm sure it will be a night he never forgets!

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If anything your advice has less stance than mine because you're deffinetly not one of the mentioned "angry virgins" who keep proping up in this forum. So until you have first hand experience in the manner I suggest you close your yapping factory as the market is overfilled.


we have all been there. you thought I was born a non-virgin? idiot. plus, it's up to the OP to decide whose advice he values, not to you.

your aggression is entertaining though, keep it coming! :lol:


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18 Jul 2011, 6:30 pm

anna-banana wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Mortal KOMBAAAAAAAT


DOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOO

FIGHT!

DOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOODOO

TEST YOUR MIGHT!


this is not appropriate. we're not here to fight, but to encourage the OP in his initial idea to pay a visit to MXH's mom. I'm sure it will be a night he never forgets!

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If anything your advice has less stance than mine because you're deffinetly not one of the mentioned "angry virgins" who keep proping up in this forum. So until you have first hand experience in the manner I suggest you close your yapping factory as the market is overfilled.


we have all been there. you thought I was born a non-virgin? idiot. plus, it's up to the OP to decide whose advice he values, not to you.

your aggression is entertaining though, keep it coming! :lol:


Considering my mom is a gynecologist I think it should be you who should visit her and get your hormones from pmsing checked out. Also, what are you 12?

I know that. But as I was going to tell erisad but didn't as to not start a flame war. The reason there is almost no male prostitues is because women can get sex much more easily than men. And I know you want to fight this point but you all know it to be true. If a woman asks to f**k any normal guy he will promptly say yes. If a guy asks to have sex with a woman he may get slapped.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:34 pm

This thread sucks. Clean up the personal attacks.


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18 Jul 2011, 6:34 pm

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What exactly is true intimacy? Sounds more like a religious ideal.

"True intimacy" is what all of you who can't get girlfriends, can't get. hahaha. In your face! :twisted:

well, you know, generally, things like, marital problems, adultery, divorce cases, child custudy issues, domestic violence, etc. after all that (at least people who can't get dates don't experience these) "True intimacy" begins to lose sense (if that made sense in the first place), doesn't it? In any case, I wouldn't care.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:34 pm

mv wrote:
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I think you confuse horny and lonely.

Not really. Read RICKY5's posts again, and tell me if you can find the word "virgin" and if you can get the context, as what I read is related with social pressure and the social stigma along with loneliness and the desire to experience intimacy with the gender you are attracted to. You are being overly simplistic.


I can't believe I'm jumping in to this RIDICULOUS, repeated ad nauseum argument, but here goes: you do not experience true intimacy with a prostitute. I feel sad that none of you seem to really get that. And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.

Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.


What exactly is true intimacy? Sounds more like a religious ideal.


RICKY5, I'd try to describe it to you, but I suspect that you, least of all, could understand it. I'm an atheist, so I don't subscribe to religious ideals of any sort... :wink:


Try me.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:36 pm

IMO getting a escort/ hooker for someone with AS would be good. Having sex is a need everyone has. Getting a escort is good for people with AS because everything is upfront. You know what you are getting and they know what they are getting. You don't have to go through all the BS of finding a GF/ BF to have sex. Trying to find a GF/BF for someone with AS is 1000x harder then a NT.

Now I said sex, there is pretty much no way it would be a regular relationship. Also, make sure you use protection.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:37 pm

MXH wrote:
But as I was going to tell erisad but didn't as to not start a flame war. The reason there is almost no male prostitues is because women can get sex much more easily than men. And I know you want to fight this point but you all know it to be true. If a woman asks to f**k any normal guy he will promptly say yes. If a guy asks to have sex with a woman he may get slapped.


You didn't tell me but I still saw this post anyway. :lol:

Not all women can get sex easily. There are ones that get laughed at when propositioning a man because they either come across as desparate or they aren't to the man's tastes. It goes both ways. :/



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18 Jul 2011, 6:40 pm

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Having sex is a need everyone has.


Not everyone. :/



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18 Jul 2011, 6:45 pm

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my argument was not a straw man - what i did was counter your false claims. there isn't any research to back up the validity of what you stated. i know this because i investigated it myself in some depth in the past.

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your hypothetical exteme situation didn't stand up to inspection. people and their behaviour don't exist as extremes, and your either/or example doesn't apply to real life at all.


well then where did I say that the two were mutually exclusive? the point of many hypothetical situations is weighing up the extremes and so was the case here. I never encouraged the OP to chose either extreme, as you seem to (wrongly) believe. I'm sure there are plenty of real life examples throughout the whole spectrum that exist between the two borderline examples I gave, but for the sake of the argument I used the extremes.

also, unlike you I didn't claim to "know" all about the subject, but the OP is only a short google search away from all the material there is about people who have developed problems due to limiting their sex lives to masturbation & porn, and to all the research that either backs it or disproves it. maybe it's not a general rule (I hope not, for the sake of many people here) to develop problems from leading such sexual lifestyle, but it is something the the OP might want to read up on if he's serious about his options.

your post seemed poorly thought-through in the context of what I'd said so I didn't see the need to make a thoughtful reply that would only lead to more misunderstanding and picking at who said what.


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18 Jul 2011, 6:45 pm

MXH wrote:
The reason there is almost no male prostitues is because women can get sex much more easily than men. And I know you want to fight this point but you all know it to be true. If a woman asks to f**k any normal guy he will promptly say yes. If a guy asks to have sex with a woman he may get slapped.

i partially agree - it is easier for women and hence no male prostitutes required.

there are other complicated reasons why women don't turn to prostitutes very often, but they are complex and lengthy and it's a whole other thread lol. suffice it to say that i agree with your point with some reservations - women can definitely get laid more easily on average.

BUT it's not true that any woman can just walk up to any guy like that and get an automatic yes. i know you are speaking hyperbolically, but keep in mind the reality of the situation lies somewhere in the middle.


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18 Jul 2011, 6:48 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Having sex is a need everyone has.


Not everyone. :/

Ok.............
Quote:
Romantic relationships is a need everyone has.

How about that?



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18 Jul 2011, 6:51 pm

blunnet wrote:
Erisad wrote:
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Having sex is a need everyone has.


Not everyone. :/

Ok.............
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Romantic relationships is a need everyone has.

How about that?


Not true either. There are people that are completely content with being alone. The only things that everyone needs to survive are food, water and oxygen. Everything else is optional or can be worked around.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:53 pm

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Also, what are you 12?


oh lighten up. this exchange has reached the point of parody long ago, and now with your pms comment that nobody saw coming! :lol:

sorry OP for hijacking your thread. off to bed now :silent:


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18 Jul 2011, 6:53 pm

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well then where did I say that the two were mutually exclusive? the point of many hypothetical situations is weighing up the extremes and so was the case here. I never encouraged the OP to chose either extreme, as you seem to (wrongly) believe. I'm sure there are plenty of real life examples throughout the whole spectrum that exist between the two borderline examples I gave, but for the sake of the argument I used the extremes.

this is what you said:

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as to the OP, I think you should go for it. I'm only talking for myself but I'd much rather have sex with a guy who sleeps with hookers than with one who only masturbates to porn.


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read up on long-term effects of porn + masturbation combo in guys. sexual dysfunction, inability to get aroused with a real woman, unrealistic expectations etc.


i think it's pretty clear.



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also, unlike you I didn't claim to "know" all about the subject, but the OP is only a short google search away from all the material there is about people who have developed problems due to limiting their sex lives to masturbation & porn, and to all the research that either backs it or disproves it.

interesting attempt at backtracking, but your original statement clearly points to what you think is a link between masturbating to porn and sexual issues.

i make a claim to have researched it, because i have done so. why would you suggest people research it if you had never done so yourself? you're not really making sense there.

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your post seemed poorly thought-through in the context of what I'd said so I didn't see the need to make a thoughtful reply that would only lead to more misunderstanding and picking at who said what.

well, i can stand by my original post because it doesn't fall apart under scrutiny. i can see that yours is a little rickety, if not completely collapsed.


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18 Jul 2011, 6:59 pm

Erisad wrote:
blunnet wrote:
Erisad wrote:
KenM wrote:
Having sex is a need everyone has.


Not everyone. :/

Ok.............
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Romantic relationships is a need everyone has.

How about that?


Not true either. There are people that are completely content with being alone. The only things that everyone needs to survive are food, water and oxygen.

Yes, I agree with that, however, the issue related to "need" in this case seems more like psychological need (which to me it becomes that) and also societal need. Usually a point being made which I have heard is a survival problem regarding elders, such as the point oftenly made, "who will take care of you when you get older"?

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Everything else is optional or can be worked around.

Yes, and that is pretty much the issue with prostitutes, as that is a way to work around the desire (or psychological need if you like) of a relationship.