How do you flirt with metal chicks?

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Bahahahahahahah this s**t is SO TRUE!! !!

My brother and I used to spot these guys out and then talk s**t to their faces eventually my bro got into a fight. Why? idk. he's a drunk and it's metal to beat the s**t out of s**t? .... bahahaha but in our case. we actually had band(s) and cocaine. so fake tool sheds were not really appreciated... kinda deludes the actual scene. then again, props to all who do this tactic. if it works and aint broke. why fix it right?

Perhaps it's a lifestyle for some but I wouldn't generalize every single person into a category, I'm also referring to metal girls from Norway, Chile, Sweden, Germany, etc. I wouldn't like to say that every girl that listens to metal or dresses in a certain way is a status seeking drug addict but in general.

I'm saying I'd prefer to judge everyone individually, for instance I love working out to bands like At the Gates or Arch enemy, I don't drink, smoke or do drugs and I even find bands like Dream Theater, Epica, Kamelot or Within Temptation to be thought provoking and there are also women out there who simply enjoy the music for what it is and don't associate with the drugs or sleazy lifestyle side of it.

I agree that metal is a lifestyle for many, so you ought to be alternative as well to make a decent impression, or at least know a good deal about the genre, subcultures and the bands. Do not by any means mistake metal or gothic people not having a broad variety amongst them.

I'm quite dissapointed how some people here view metal chicks... Let me clear out something: ALL girls heavily into metal that I know (in Finland) are university educated, polite, friendly and completely free from drugs. Metal people may look intimidating to the mainstream folk, but actually cause far less trouble on the average than regular party goers.

Also, I'd avoid putting people in the molds too much. I consider myself as a metal/goth chick, but my dress code differs in every occasion: Work, politics, charity, posh lounges and events require different kind of attire and even in my freetime my garderobe tends to be more Dita von Teese than Satyricon orientated.

A prime example why metal chicks I know consider the majority of non-alternative males ret*d and superficial...

Is it just me or does classifying anyone into a category and then stereotyping anything about them just seem silly?

I can never figure out how threads like this keep going - don't people realize they're talking about people who don't even exist?

I'm surprised Boo hasn't started a parody thread

Agreed but I'd bet at least 100.00 these types of women you speak of are not the type the original poster of this forum topic is asking about.

All great bands btw. I have seen Arch Enemy, Dream Theater, & At the Gates (might not be the same band pretty sure i saw a Swedish cover band) in concert. ... On that note. The lead singer from Arch Enemy is a female singer and i bet you she has sex

It has been my experience with Swedish women, they are reserved but highly sexual. Only two i have known. Same goes for German. One German girl I knew never smiled or laughed. I loved her for it. being the one girl I could not get to smile and laugh. eventually she did. Do not remember how or what I did/said. But again, reserved and highly sexual. The other German girl I knew who enjoyed Metal music was a total kink in the sack. but i digress, it is true i have not met every person in the world. and it is true i have not laid every woman/girl/chick. however it also is true that we can only go off of what we know and personal experience. so this "advice" i lent was based off of that. what i have experienced, heard, witnessed, read, etc.

Of course it is given that there are ladies who enjoy a large or minor amount of various musics for various reasons it is also in that same way understood (At least so I thought) these are not the "metal chicks" the original poster wishes to "have sex" with.

If you met me; you'd love me.

Still, after reading your comment curiosity ensues: why wouldn't you include yourself in that statement about metal chicks you know? It's a given? (as in it is a given being a metal chick yourself you are included with the other metal chicks you know)

Also ... I might take a bold leap and say you are calling me out as "Non-Alternative?"

Which to my better understanding would be primary or traditional?

More likely you meant traditional because otherwise it would be a compliment for primary and original go hand in hand.

Who doesn't want to be original? I pride myself on originality.

As for superficiality ... I challenge you to find one person on this earth who is honest with themselves that is not a little bit superficial. Seriously, who do you know? In my experience those who choose to "appear" different are in fact all the same and rightfully so. In this same way they are critical and dare i say judgmental of any outside their own norms ... but this all has nothing to with anything.

I stick with my guns and stand by my words.

If you met me. you would love me.

Every one does. And rightfully so. It is hard not to. Even my haters main complaint is how difficult it is to find a reason to hate me

PS: I apologize if this does not make complete sense or is over analytical for I am about two spliffs in. and half way through my first gin and cider. Also I have been drafting this damn Zombie movie all day and my brain is drained (coincidentally making me feel more like the "villainous zombies" of my film )

Agreed. But to my better understanding this forum topic was mostly for the original poster whom asked for advice on "flirting" "making sexual advances" on chicks (he?) associated with the metal scene and in fact as "bitchy metal" females.

-ZaneArang

No, you're not the only one.
Maybe we who are sane need to shout louder.

From what I know of Finland, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and really every lady I have met who was either raised in Europe or visiting America from Europe that is common. Unlike the watered down system we use in America most of Europe takes time for education (EG a minimum of two languages spoken dare I say it fluently). Metal head, or not. I have yet to meet a woman from Europe that did not hold incredibly intellectual conversation(s) often teaching me new things in the process. I ride a lot of trains for traveling and find the conversations to be refreshing and amazing ways to pass the time. Often left with an e-mail or open invitation to maintain contact and visit them in their native country. I have yet to take my back pack to Europe but rest assured I will.



This to me is a given. Depending on the place the attire should be worn accordingly. I mean, who wears a Penguin suit (tux) to the golf course? Bahaha. I too wear different things in different places. Any fashion conscious person should no?

As for Miss Heather Renée. I met her at LAX once after a visiting east LA for a friends Burlesque show. Burlesque is pretty big up here in Seattle where I currently reside. the tempting tarts are my favorite show. But I digress that to me (not that it matters) is incredibly sexy. She is a beautiful woman, great personality as well. Told me to keep in touch should I ever be back in LA for a show or in general. Have yet to do that but this was only a year or so ago so I am sure I still could should I ever want too. She ended up on the same flight as me up to Seattle go figure. She was going to some expo. I told her LA sushi had nothing on the Seattle Mecha of Sea Food. (Personal opinion)

I think I could see you wearing an over-sized concert T too bed on a lazy night...but then again, who doesn't?

-PlainZane

Given that the only thing I know about them from your description is their preference for metal music, this may be a useful avenue to begin on. However, I figure multiple people have likely said this before me.

I've noticed that from your comments...

I think that pretty much sums it up for me, you're judging an entire population or musical subculture and making generalizations based on a couple of girls you've met. Exactly what does a girl not laughing have to do with metal? Do her characteristics somehow define an entire subculture?

Yes, Sweden does have many good melodic death metal bands and the last time I checked, they wasn't singing about drugs, fast cars, status or sex. If we're talking about glam metal bands like Kiss, that's understandable.

Swedish Symphonic Metal
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-EOYJQMMY[/youtube]

American Glam Metal
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIM4gmho8P0[/youtube]
There's a pretty big difference between what both bands represent and imply in their music and lyrical content, one is thought provoking and one isn't. Different sub genres within metal also attract different types of people so it's hard to even generalize. Someone who listens to Folk Metal like Ensiferum may not listen or associate with someone who listens to Extreme Prog Metal like Opeth.

As much as I appreciate the semi-compliments you've made and all the effort to demonstrate your ideas in a more subtle manner, I do prefer debating with people when they are sober. No offence meant, thank you for taking a more polite and insightful approach.



I wouldn't. Sorry.

I love you too.

Looking back sober and munching on my home made pizza I must say my comments were in fact not as off handed and colorful as expected. Oh well.

First off I do not judge. I leave that for the Whigs with robes. Yes semantics are my enemy in this way ... judgments are opinions and conclusions. But I do not recall ever making any statements as bold as EVERY or ALL in my previous posts. (Aka Generalizations?)

Secondly, to answer your question. Nothing. Ricarda was her name and I simply went off topic remembering her with fondness. She taught me a lot about her home town and what it meant to actually study as opposed to floating through school as she put it. But I could add this, she certainly defined Germans as I knew them up until that point. Raised in an adoptive German/Swedish family my 100% German grand parents certainly became more (could not think of a word for this feeling) after Ric and I spent time together...

I am done with numbers. Here is some more reply...

(Technically rock genre but this band Gemini Five has received a Swedish Metal award)


Every genre every country every nation every etc etc etc has it's "Hair Metal" bands. Excuse not using Glam but I prefer Hair. Why? Because the 80's WAS all about HAIR truth there were many non-hair metal bands. But sense you bring the Crue into the mix I bring

Gemini Five (Inspired by Motley Crue)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax_FYp6ZVmQ[/youtube]

Here is a band some have never heard of. I have had the pleasure of seeing them live. Fantastic.
Blue Blood is a great song off of the album "Psychedelic violence crime of visual shock"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovAk5avdzE&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]

Visual Kei if you are not familiar is a form of art.
X-Japan or X as they are fondly known as by their loyal fan base are very much inspired by hair metal and practice Visual Kei
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_kei

And yes. V-Kei is glam rock inspired and yes V-Kei is not only a sub-genre but a sub-culture as well.

Yet again, I digressed.
Girls Girls Girls not thought provoking?
What could be more stimulating than strippers?


As for the nitty gritty of this reply. I do not speak for anyone else but myself and my brother when I type this next part: Music is our passion and we bleed it. It's a thing to us we can not live without. All music, all sub genres, ALL MUSIC.

Appreciating different types, drawing inspiration(s) from none exclusively. Always inquiring, ALWAYS LEARNING.

I know both Ensiferum and Opeth (Seen them live also Gigantour 2006 back stage passes!)

On the subject of Opeth. You might consider rethinking your stand on "Non sex based lyrics etc" when listening to songs such as:
"by the Pain I See in Others" and "Weakness" ... and no it's not really up for debate as I have met Opeth in person(Gigantour 2006 back stage) and asked them several questions about their music.

And loved them even more so because of it.
Especially how much they made fun of the "stereotypical American metal fan