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15 Oct 2011, 3:12 pm

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Greatsharkbite - And who'se fault is how I get treated? Still mine? Geez, how about all those pretty princesses out there who whinge when their boyfriend doesn't buy them the right colour of a car and act like a b***h towards anywhere else, where are the people picking on them? Why is everything my fault, but everything everyone else does to me because of my looks - people I've never even f***ing talked to, much less been rude towards - a-okay?


Well, as I just said that people are responsible for their own actions--it'd be their fault.

No one has the right to lay a hand on you, when its reasonably unprovoked. They were dead wrong and hopefully they suffer the consequences.

Also you think those women are treated with respect? I seriously doubt it. Unless they're a so-called trophy wife, most guys don't like gold diggers and the guys who even would care to be involved with them--can get better ones. No one's blaming you, actually your post was very sympathetic at first until you started lashing out at groups.

You lashed out at people who didn't deserve it and weren't involved by generalizing and trivializing their problems. I'm not trying to attack you, but you could utilize tact.

I know this post is probably just a way to get feedback for you and mainly blow off steam, but in the process, you need to be careful as to what direction you blow it in.

Also instinct doesn't beat self-control, or you could also argue a case for the guy who attempted to hit you. He was wrong--end of story.



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15 Oct 2011, 5:58 pm

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Being different sucks no matter what you look like.


More accurately, being worse than average sucks no matter what you look like.



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15 Oct 2011, 6:57 pm

Greatsharkbite - you're not very experienced in life if you think those women aren't treated with respect:D Trust me, they get a LOT of respect whereever they go, whether they deserve it or not. And I'd take any disrespect they get a million times, considering all the free drinks, free access everywhere, guys paying her rent just because, she doesn't even have to sleep with anyone or be anyone's wife. Trust me, they get treated like queens everywhere they go. Maybe they don't get special treatment from rich guys who have their pick, but it'd be a bit much to demand that, now wouldn't it? A bit...entitled. You know, like how I was accused of being earlier in this thread for wanting to be treated with the same respect as any other f*****g woman.

Lashed out? Have you read anything I've written? A disproportionate amount of people from those groups that I've been in contact with have lashed out at me in a major way, completely undeserved. It's a fact, and I mentioned said fact, using perhaps some slightly inappropriate terminology. Did I hit anyone, or spit at anyone?

I never said instinct beat self-control in deciding how you behave, I said instincts influence people's decisions without people being aware of said instincts. It's subconscious, and people rationalize it in different ways and look for excuses to avoid the truth of why said decision was made. Being violent towards me was a very conscious decision, and it wasn't an instinct, it was a response to said instinct that was entirely his decision. In that case though I think he very consciously picked me because I was an ugly, petite, shy-looking girl who probably wouldn't have a boyfriend to come and beat him up, there was no attempt for him to rationalize his behaviour, he probably knew exactly why it was just me he chose, whereas people don't always consciously know when they discriminate and make judgements based on nothing more than appearance, they just do and then rationalize it to themselves.



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15 Oct 2011, 11:06 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt177449.html

this member gets rejected for an opposite problem, yet it is the same. attractive people don't automatically have everything easier. an attractive person who is autistic has massive challenges just like any other autistic person. in the end it scomes down to the same thing in terms of how much is innate and how much is fixable.


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16 Oct 2011, 1:16 am

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Who said anything about ONE person? What is it about EVERY DYKE I'VE EVER MET AND EVERY MALE that you have difficulty comprehending? I'm not speaking lack of attention, I'm speaking NEGATIVE attention, although lack of attention is there too, like not saying hello to me when I'm part of a group and instead talking to every other woman except for me after I've SMILED and said hello. Nothing weird about my smile either, women react very positively to my smiles, so do gay guys.


Of course, looks are simply presentation but people can tend to make first impressions based on how you look or dress. It's up to you to show people that there's more than meets the eye, it's up to you to show you are more competent and able in your profession, that you're able to succeed despite the odds. I've never denied that social hierarchies can be predatory, of course they can be and I agree it's completely wrong and shallow how you've been discriminated and mistreated. You come across as someone who's a good conversationalist and you have some very insightful thoughts, perhaps you're associating yourself with the wrong social crowd.

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Are you so naive as to think for every Susan Boyle there aren't tons of talented singers out there who don't get any attention because they lack the looks? Are you so naive as to think nobody could possibly have a set of facial features so nasty that people may just not like them them because of that, but they may not think so, but instead figure out excuses for it, like dissecting said person's every action and word to the point where they don't do with nice-looking people to find an excuse for their instinctive repulsion and feel better about themselves? So no, they don't think they do it, but they still do, or is that too complicated for you to understand?


You notice your physical imperfections far too much and you let it define you to the point that you always feel susceptible to failure, you never allow yourself to feel confidence, people pick up on this and see you as prey or vulnerable. Stop seeking approval for what you're not and start focusing on what you can help, start feeling confident in what you do have. I'm saying Susan Boyle is a case that there's hope for anyone in a competitive world.

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Ever think that a vibe may not be vibe at all, it may be you not visually liking the person and inventing the nonexistent vibe in your imagination to rationalize your dislike?


Not at all. Compatibility and mutual understanding is far more important to me than looks are. Money and looks aren't an indicator or display of character at all since in some cases, they are inherited or genetically passed on. Beautiful people are ten a penny but an innovative mind is rare. How about Donatella Versace? She's not the most attractive woman yet she's successful in a very competitive profession full of beautiful women and she married an American model.
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16 Oct 2011, 7:03 am

hyperlexian - How f*****g dare you to compare my problem - being BULLIED RELENTLESSLY by males and dykes with the whinging of some obnoxious self-obsessed princess who deserves said bullying but never gets it and STILL complains she doesn't get special treatment for her appearance? Maybe her appearance isn't as model pretty, maybe she's just generically attractive - I definitely don't see her working as a model, so she isn't exactly the type of person I was talking about now is she? Do people throw rocks at her and spit on her for being self-obsessed? Has she never had a date and gets no male attention? If not, then how the f**k is it the same? If you can't get friends because you're an a**hole, stop being an a**hole, it's something you can change. And you are simply short-sighted and ignorant if you think my severe problem that isn't under my control is the same as someone's who simply refuses to change her behaviour. Also, she just isn't that attractive, the models I know act downright cruel and have plenty of male servants - and would have dyke servants if they wanted them - right at their back and call, paying for everything they want and following them around like puppies.

Wolfheart - Look at the link I was given. Now that's a self-obsessed princess with entitlement issues. Where are you calling her that in above thread? Maybe you don't have the guts, because you find her attractive. You=hypocrite.

Is EVERY MALE AND DYKE I'VE EVER MET the wrong social crowd? My social circle is far and wide because straight women and gay guys don't reject or bully me and they also agree I have good social skills and a good personality. I can't associate with the so-called right people because there is no social ground left for me to cover.

So if I just focus really hard on my positives males will stop spitting at me and want to go on a date with me?

I really think you're offtopic now because I never asked about career I asked about my PERSONAL LIFE and how to get in terms with that, not f*****g career advice:D But you just go on your own little tangents. Maybe you should reread my post and see what exactly it was that I asked about.

Donatella Versace is the daughter of who? Do your research. She inherited her success like Paris Hilton. Hardly an example. She was a billionaire before she was born.



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16 Oct 2011, 8:32 am

you clearly have an issue with getting outside of your own misery long enough to see that other people have issues too... even if they are beautiful. do you have a place to live? do you have friends stick around? do your family members stand by your side? have you been able to stay out of homeless shelters?

Jessi_in_wonderland had all of these things happen to her (or similar - i may have gotten the details wrong). Jessi_in_wonderland doesn't seem like an a**hole at all actually - even in spite of the problems she states she has, her attitude is still positive and welcoming. it goes a long way towards getting support from other members.

she may have lots of men approach her, but they are probably mostly men who are attracted based on looks. at least if you have male friends you can be assured they care for you as person, as opposed to trying to get something out of you like random sex. at least you know your friends are genuine.


on an official note, homophobic language is not acceptable on WrongPlanet as it breaks the rules. please do not refer to lesbians as dykes again.


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16 Oct 2011, 9:23 am

Yes, I have a place to live. So what? I have to pay to live where I live, you think I got it for free? Maybe she'd get it for free if she acted less like a spoiled brat, some guy would take her in for free? I don't have that luxury, I have to WORK.

Yes, I have friends, but if I acted like she does, I wouldn't. So it's not comparable, now is it?

No, my family members don't stay by my side. My father was physically abusive, shouted at me and called me an ugly piece of s**t. I no longer communicate with him as he kicked me out of the house, not that it was ever a safe place for me to be anyway. I no longer communicate with my mother as she was always on his side and doesn't care to stay in touch. My grandparents live too far away.

Yes, I have stayed out of shelters, because I work and make my own money. No sympathy for those who want to get by without because of their appearance. Guess what, she just doesn't look good enough. If she was a model she'd have a trillion guys waiting to give her free shelter, and NO, they don't ask for sex. I know girls who have all that. Why do you keep dodging the issue that she's just not an example of who I was talking about? I was talking about EXCEPTIONALLY attractive women, just as I am exceptionally ugly.

Fact is, she created those problems herself. I have no sympathy for her and this is MY thread about MY problems, so I won't be talking about some stupid spoiled princess again. Her topic is over for me. This is a topic I made about ME, like she made a topic about HER. Did you go over to her topic to discuss my problems? Why not? She should get over her SOLVABLE problems and see what it's like to have guys bully you and spit on you, and obnoxious, nasty lesbians with boy haircuts, too. Why don't you go tell her to get over her problems?

Friends are NOT a substitute for a loving, affectionate relationship. Specially not for a woman. You are simply ignorant and seeing things what you want to see.

What is it in my behaviour and demeanor I could change to get POSITIVE male attention and affection? Smiling doesn't work, being friendly doesn't work, makeovers don't work, what else is there? Nothing, right, so how I can come to terms with that and still live a somewhat bearable life, having the same needs for genuine, sincere love and physical affection as anyone else, but never having them be fulfilled?

If you have no advice for ME, go pay tribute to your friend somewhere else. You are the one being rude here.



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16 Oct 2011, 9:46 am

Talking about an attractive woman's issues in a thread I created about my issues because I'm unattractive really is the ultimate insult. So that got me thinking. hyperlexian, it's okay if you don't want to say or something, but I thought it'd only be fair since I answered all your questions. Are you a lesbian? Perhaps one with a little crush on said pretty thread-starter? It would explain your behaviour and your lack of sympathy and tact. It's not always just the ones with the boy haircuts, sometimes the normal-looking ones are lapdogs too.



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16 Oct 2011, 3:57 pm

i honestly thought you could benefit from understanding her perspective, and i thought the same for her too. apparently not. you don't own your thread, so people are allowed to try to help you in whatever way they see fit. it doesn't break any rules to try to help you to gain understanding and perhaps some empathy through explaining someone else's situation.

your attitude hs been combative to everyone who posted, no matter what they said. if you want to vent, the Haven is designed for that.


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