What females really want

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oops, was just removing a couple of sexist jokes (please keep them OUT of this thread, peoples), and i split EVERYTHING that followed them. i have asked a moderator with a more robust computer to split the posts back into the thread. i am going to lock the thread until the posts get moved back so that the conversation doesn't get confusing. thanks for your patience!

*sigh* it is not possible to fix the thread. i'm really sorry everyone! i messed up.

so what i have done is quoted and pasted all of the posts in order, so people can at least reply to them and so on. it was the best i could do.

Shau wrote:

The only thing that's important about the first impression for me, is whether or not I would find them physically attractive enough to bang. For everything else, I take even my own opinion with a grain of salt until I find out more about them.

Shau Priorities: Looks first, age second?

JanuaryMan wrote:

Shau Priorities: Looks first, age second?

Too simplified. More like, in descending priority:

Requirements for physical attraction: Reasonable looks, similar age, appealing fashion sense

Requirements for mental attraction: Intelligence, similar interests, not afraid of the gym

It isn't meaningful to try and compare the priorities of physical attraction and mental attraction, because both are equally necessary for me to care. At least if you have the second ones, you can be friend-worthy!

Shau wrote:

JanuaryMan wrote:

Shau Priorities: Looks first, age second?

Too simplified. More like, in descending priority:

Requirements for physical attraction: Reasonable looks, similar age, appealing fashion sense

Requirements for mental attraction: Intelligence, similar interests, not afraid of the gym

It isn't meaningful to try and compare the priorities of physical attraction and mental attraction, because both are equally necessary for me to care. At least if you have the second ones, you can be friend-worthy!

Amen. And usually if 1 is missing, the other rarely acts as enough to keep a relationship going long term.

hyperlexian wrote:

paxfilosoof, i would advise you to read "Sex at Dawn" by Christopher Ryan, Ph.D. & Cacilda Jethá, M.D., as it dispenses with a great deal of the nonsense you have posited here.

some ev-psych is useful, and some of it is laughed out of academic circles. but a great deal off what ev-psych put forth as biological truth is actually social conditioning that came as a result of agricultural settlements. thank goodness in the modern days we are divesting ourselves of those shackles and really critically examining what we consider to be genetic and/or biological.

http://www.sexatdawn.com/

another good book is "Delusions of Gender", which exposes some of the sexism inherent in neuroscientific study.

Thanks for your advice, I'll read the book as soon as possible
I'm always open for critic.
However, as far as I know evolutionary psychology view of human behaviour is mostly correct. I tested it with many people and it works.
Maybe some 'researchers' in evolutionary psychology have wrong conclusions or something I don't know. But I think we can't ignore the fact that we have no free will, our mind tells us what to do.
I'm not really an expert in this, but, it seems to me evolutionary psychology is quiet right about many human behavior. When I was 12 (5 years ago) I used to understand almost nothing and now it feels naturally to communicate with people because I have learned the '"rules" of it by evolutionary psychology.
It's not that I use rules or something, it feels just naturally and it works

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Blurg, why is this so hard..
Different women different things. I know this because I hang out with women who are different than me, and lo and behold, we have vastly different tastes in men (and women and agender people but that's beside the point).

If all women like a certain prescribed archtype, why don't the men I like and pursue and date fit into that mold? Am I not a woman? Do I not really like them?

I do think there are general traits that mark you as "good people" in society and they're beneficial to have. But...
If you try to appeal to too many people, you get elevator music.
That's also why I think trying to appeal to "women" is not as good a strategy as trying to appeal to "a woman".

I have stated that there's nothing misogynist in my post, I said people in general have their priorities change due circumstances. Someone in high school isn't going to have the same needs as someone who is thirty and has a mortgage or various financial responsibilities. I'm not saying people are more likely to date someone for strictly money, there are people out who do exploit other people but they don't represent a majority, I'm saying that there are more factors involved in dating and choosing a potential mate and some of those are determining factors depending on the person.

Clearly in all fairness, I think if anything, Boo has the correct say on women from Lebanon as he lives there and as we know, it is a more conservative and different culture altogether.

I'm really, really, honestly, completely flabbergasted by the fact that nobody here even seems to realize what the ultimate weapon against women is.

It's the capacity to make them laugh.

No, really.

Whenever I've seen a guy manage to work a girl over, it's cause he had her laughing and talking a lot. It's the charisma that gets them, to the seven hells with your delusions of "status" and "wealth". Of course, I have no idea how different this might be with non-NT ladies.

The guy I know with the most chicks works at a fish shop. Yea. lol.....that's what he does, he chops up fishies all day for sale for his boss. You call that status and wealth? HAH!

Please define these below stated qualities, and give them values of what types are the most generally sought after. and what is the cut off point on some of the lower and higher values and what would be considered average.

for instance, good health, this may be a basic expectation to have, but in some countries poor health is more common, while in others it is not. or that of someone who had many hardships early in life so has bad teeth, but has since corrected many of any health issues but ended up with dentures none the less.

Confidence, one can be confident socially but not in their mechanical skills, and visa versa.

Resources, one can have many resources in friends, but few in finances, while others can be vary rich or at least well to do while having no friends.

Ambition, bartender while going to school, but what if they completed their schooling, what then? to become rich? to what ends are expected? to support the female? what if the female does not want to be supported? is it just to feel they can match or keep up or do better? what if the male made less? what if the males ambition was simply to be financially stable and have wife and child? to be happy? sure women may say this is OK, but if it was with them would they find this in truth acceptable? details details.


I think what many of men what to know, is what is of average or better expectations of desirability. for any woman may romantically say someday he may find his match and all will be fine, JUST BE HIM SELF. but the odds increase or decrease according to over all desirability. some of which the male may or may not be capable of changing. something to give odds with as they stand, and what can they do to improve those odds, and are some instances fairly hopeless.

For instance, when a woman states they want a man that will make them happy, first thing i see is co-dependency, expecting the MALE to make HER happy, instead of someone to just be happy with together. BUT in general, over all, by what I seen on dating sites and other posts women have made its a vary common expectation, therefore a more sought after quality right or wrong. and then there are some men who just do not know how to be socially funny or do not find the same things amusing that others do. and what one woman may consider as happy anther may not. so lets define some here to over all averages and definitions.

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confidence
arrogance
resources
Economic Capacity
Social Status
Age
Ambition and Industriousness
Dependability and Stability
Intelligence
Compatibility
Size and Strength
Good Health
Love and Commitment

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Dude, you need to add "CAN MAKE ME LAUGH" to that list, put it in bold, and put it at the top of the list.