Why do I rarely get any attention on dating sites?

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21 Oct 2012, 4:45 am

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I think we agree that serious online dating is about finding someone that has a similar lifestyle and someone that enjoys doing similar activities. Finding someone that you have a mutual respect and understanding with is one of the most important aspects.

I only have a few interests as such as film, weightlifting, philosophy, videogames and architecture. Sure, we can do something general like going to a pub or going to an arcade but if a girl doesn't have a mutual depth or interest beyond that, my interest won't be held for long. If a girl is not interested in talking about those specific topics with me, we won't get along or she will simply be doing so in an insincere way to achieve an ulterior motive and that will quickly show.

If I say that I'm an expert in marine biology or chemistry when I know very little about either topic and have no passion for either of them, it would be very insincere. It is about finding people that you connect with and sharing something you are passionate about.


Nobody has argued that, but in this thread we are dealing with creating attraction. Bot yet there on picking a good woman and sustaining attraction or how to present oneself. All of that is for another thread.

I have a question for you. Around how many okc questions did you answer and how did you answer them? As the only things in okc that you can see are the profile pic, match %, and username. I already know the pic, the username is iffy, but have no clue on the questions



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21 Oct 2012, 5:10 am

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I think we agree that serious online dating is about finding someone that has a similar lifestyle and someone that enjoys doing similar activities. Finding someone that you have a mutual respect and understanding with is one of the most important aspects.

I only have a few interests as such as film, weightlifting, philosophy, videogames and architecture. Sure, we can do something general like going to a pub or going to an arcade but if a girl doesn't have a mutual depth or interest beyond that, my interest won't be held for long. If a girl is not interested in talking about those specific topics with me, we won't get along or she will simply be doing so in an insincere way to achieve an ulterior motive and that will quickly show.

If I say that I'm an expert in marine biology or chemistry when I know very little about either topic and have no passion for either of them, it would be very insincere. It is about finding people that you connect with and sharing something you are passionate about.


Nobody has argued that, but in this thread we are dealing with creating attraction. Bot yet there on picking a good woman and sustaining attraction or how to present oneself. All of that is for another thread.

I have a question for you. Around how many okc questions did you answer and how did you answer them? As the only things in okc that you can see are the profile pic, match %, and username. I already know the pic, the username is iffy, but have no clue on the questions


As for the questions, I answered them truthfully.

Here's some of the questions I got..

How do you feel about kids?

Kids are precious - they love me and I love them!
They're okay, but keep the unruly ones at bay.
God, how revolting. *shudder*
I'm indifferent.

Explanation
I love the playful energy kids have and haha, excuse for a Disney or Shrek movie marathon!

Do you like to cuddle?

Yes.
No.
Sometimes - It depends.

Explanation
I invented snuggles! and I'm working on something called Cuggles which is a snuggle and a cuddle combined.

Would you--for any reason--read your mate's email or pose as him/her online, without his/her knowledge and permission?

Yes, they shouldn't be keeping secrets anyway.
Yes, I'd be too curious not to.
Only if I suspected them of something.
No, I'd trust them and that would be invasive.

explanation
No, without trust, relationships are pointless. I wouldn't be in the relationship in the first place if I didn't trust the person.



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21 Oct 2012, 5:19 am

I think it's important to answer questions that are relevant, if the question doesn't hold any relevance, it is definitely best to tick irrelevant and focus on the questions that are most important.



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21 Oct 2012, 6:43 am

I honestly do not know how to sell myself well, that and my carrying on a convo is tough for me.


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21 Oct 2012, 9:35 am

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The only messages I ever got there were from lonely, desperate and clingy girls. Sure, I like attention, but I don't wanna be smothered by it.


A guy who's asking for dating advice on an online forum is complaining about lonely, desperate girls contacting him... My irony detector just f***ing exploded.

All I know is that when I'm looking for a girl, I try to be honest and upfront about things. That, and I don't try to go after the same stuff everybody else goes after because there's no point. You're desperate and lonely... Take a second to realize that, and then ask yourself, if you don't want someone like that, why the hell should anyone else want you?

I really don't understand people at all, not even fellow aspies... It's like the world is full of people mostly covered in mud, but all the muddy people want someone that sparkles, shines, and smells like flowers... If you want someone to take a chance on you, you have to be willing to do the same. It's not like some supermodel will see you and feel sorry for you and then become the love of your life. It doesn't work that way, and life's not a damn fairy tale. I'm not saying you should date the 500 pound woman on maury povich who's literally stuck in her bedroom because she's too fat and never does anything. I can't see why ANYONE would want that. But you have to be willing to look past a few flaws because everybody has them. But it seems like everyone wants someone without any, and that's just not reality.


You didn't have to say it like that. 8O There are days where I act normal and days where I feel desperate, I KNOW. I'm still fighting with myself to act more normal, back to a time I was before this notion controlled me.


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21 Oct 2012, 9:39 am

I haven't gotten one 'bite' as it were, on OKCupid......... Yet.


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21 Oct 2012, 9:54 am

I'm now thinking I should stay off these sites for a while, swallow my pride and try it in the real world.


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21 Oct 2012, 2:37 pm

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If a girl messages you first, it means you have her attention and she is showing outright interest which is better than a cold approach. So the profile does what it is meant to do by getting the initial interest and creating an opening.


i know exactly what it means. Ive only messaged one girl iny my life and it was to say she misspelled something. all of my conversations have been girls that message me first. I have had some message me about how i seem like such a cool and funny guy and 6 messages later ask me something thats obviously stated in my profile. The cool/funny thing is just a general compliment. And thats all before going into what types of girls look at which of my profiles.


How many have you met for a date?


and i'm still quite angry, frustrated on how another girl lead me on OkCupid



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21 Oct 2012, 2:43 pm

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If a girl messages you first, it means you have her attention and she is showing outright interest which is better than a cold approach. So the profile does what it is meant to do by getting the initial interest and creating an opening.


i know exactly what it means. Ive only messaged one girl iny my life and it was to say she misspelled something. all of my conversations have been girls that message me first. I have had some message me about how i seem like such a cool and funny guy and 6 messages later ask me something thats obviously stated in my profile. The cool/funny thing is just a general compliment. And thats all before going into what types of girls look at which of my profiles.


How many have you met for a date?


None because I have a high standard of what i look for in a woman. And that as a person I have not been ready to date. Even turning down oportunities for sex with attractive women because I dont have my personal requirements to engage in such activities. Its also why i dont message girls. My dating profiles are just experiments for when im ready to enter the field for real. And that said I focus all of my energy in creating attention only through real life. Because I dont feel like playing the silly games that are so common on dating sites, all the hidding of things and twisting them.



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21 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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If a girl messages you first, it means you have her attention and she is showing outright interest which is better than a cold approach. So the profile does what it is meant to do by getting the initial interest and creating an opening.


i know exactly what it means. Ive only messaged one girl iny my life and it was to say she misspelled something. all of my conversations have been girls that message me first. I have had some message me about how i seem like such a cool and funny guy and 6 messages later ask me something thats obviously stated in my profile. The cool/funny thing is just a general compliment. And thats all before going into what types of girls look at which of my profiles.


How many have you met for a date?


How many have you met for a second date?


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21 Oct 2012, 4:41 pm

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Be careful with copy and paste. I would tend to get the exact message from the same guy and it was obvious what it was. A girl wants to feel special. Using her name is a great idea and the advice about not interigating is as well. The one line question I almost always responded to. And don't be in a rush to meet. Get to know her through email or I'M first. As for those who have never been kissed I am not sure why you have to tell. She wont necessarily know. I really wouldn't tell her. You may not be great the first time but it won't take you many kisses to figure it out... And I hope that didn't sound rude. It was not my intention
th girls on these sites feel plenty special..special to the point of being b*****s. It doesnt matter what you say, if they like you they like you.if not they won't respond. For proof, i did an experiment and copied wolfheart's profile..an I still have 0 success :p


Not liking you does not make someone a b***h, it just means they don't like you. Noone is obliged to like you, just as you aren't obliged to like anyone you don't like.
they are b*****s for wasting my time. I usually got messaged first with my old profile and the ones i liked i would chat with and the theyd give me their number an when it was tie to meet they'd come up with bs..and say ''gl with your search; as if it was no s**t but of their ass that they got my hopes up.
I agree with mxh though, wolfheart's profile is dumb. actually did get one girl who messaged me saying it made her laugh...but she probably like my pics...since i'm an american and so is she.


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21 Oct 2012, 4:43 pm

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That's not a testament because the profile is specifically designed to make British girls laugh and smile which it does, it creates a positive first impression and an opening to continue being positive, playful and fun.

A more American version would involve more slapstick humour and focus on things that are relevant to girls from the US and again, wtfid2 should make his own jokes.


though to be fair that is not how you said it in the past. I do recall you telling guys to copy your profile word by word


I can't recall stating anyone should copy it word by word as it may not reflect their personality, if someone has a playful personality and that doesn't show in their messages or on a date. It isn't going to go well because the woman had different expectations of how the person they are meeting would be.

Honesty is vital when it comes to creating a profile and making one that is expressive and true to yourself is important if you want to attract someone that likes you for you.
you said the profile gets you girls who initiate messages..so my personality shouldnt nattem bc I nver got first messages to show my personality through.


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21 Oct 2012, 4:47 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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If a girl messages you first, it means you have her attention and she is showing outright interest which is better than a cold approach. So the profile does what it is meant to do by getting the initial interest and creating an opening.


i know exactly what it means. Ive only messaged one girl iny my life and it was to say she misspelled something. all of my conversations have been girls that message me first. I have had some message me about how i seem like such a cool and funny guy and 6 messages later ask me something thats obviously stated in my profile. The cool/funny thing is just a general compliment. And thats all before going into what types of girls look at which of my profiles.


How many have you met for a date?


Have you ever heard the phrase: "Quality, not quantity?"



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21 Oct 2012, 5:00 pm

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The only messages I ever got there were from lonely, desperate and clingy girls. Sure, I like attention, but I don't wanna be smothered by it.


A guy who's asking for dating advice on an online forum is complaining about lonely, desperate girls contacting him... My irony detector just f***ing exploded.

All I know is that when I'm looking for a girl, I try to be honest and upfront about things. That, and I don't try to go after the same stuff everybody else goes after because there's no point. You're desperate and lonely... Take a second to realize that, and then ask yourself, if you don't want someone like that, why the hell should anyone else want you?

I really don't understand people at all, not even fellow aspies... It's like the world is full of people mostly covered in mud, but all the muddy people want someone that sparkles, shines, and smells like flowers... If you want someone to take a chance on you, you have to be willing to do the same. It's not like some supermodel will see you and feel sorry for you and then become the love of your life. It doesn't work that way, and life's not a damn fairy tale. I'm not saying you should date the 500 pound woman on maury povich who's literally stuck in her bedroom because she's too fat and never does anything. I can't see why ANYONE would want that. But you have to be willing to look past a few flaws because everybody has them. But it seems like everyone wants someone without any, and that's just not reality.


You didn't have to say it like that. 8O There are days where I act normal and days where I feel desperate, I KNOW. I'm still fighting with myself to act more normal, back to a time I was before this notion controlled me.


I'm sorry if it came off as rude, I didn't mean it that way, but I'm sick and tired of reading threads about guys like you who desperately want a girlfriend but then are picky as hell about who they'll even give a chance... And there's nothing wrong with being picky, but you're being picky about stupid things. You can't deny someone a chance for a folly that you yourself have. That's ridiculous. And you should be picky about WHO someone is, not just what they look like(not that i'm saying YOU absolutely are, but a lot of people are, and that's the only thing they're picky about. It makes no sense). There's a reason they say "beggars can't be choosers."

I'm not saying you should act normal... Normal is a meaningless term because we're all different. You shouldn't act "normal." "Normal" is boring. I'm just saying, since you're desperate and lonely, you should give someone else who is also lonely and desperate a chance. What do you have to lose? It might not work out, but you won't know until you at least give them a chance. And for all you know, you might discover the love of your life because of it. Even if you don't, I think you'd at least feel A LITTLE better that someone actually desires you. Then you won't feel so lonely or desperate. And the more you go out with women and get to know their company, the more comfortable and less awkward it becomes, which then makes you not seem so desperate or lonely to others in the future, which makes it easier to talk to them.

The first date I ever went on, I was nervous as hell. But by the time I met my current girlfriend, of course I was still a little nervous, but I was used to the whole initial meeting thing to where I was mostly indifferent about it. If it worked out, great. If not, oh well, then off I go to give a different girl a try.



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21 Oct 2012, 5:07 pm

DerStadtschutz wrote:
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If a girl messages you first, it means you have her attention and she is showing outright interest which is better than a cold approach. So the profile does what it is meant to do by getting the initial interest and creating an opening.


i know exactly what it means. Ive only messaged one girl iny my life and it was to say she misspelled something. all of my conversations have been girls that message me first. I have had some message me about how i seem like such a cool and funny guy and 6 messages later ask me something thats obviously stated in my profile. The cool/funny thing is just a general compliment. And thats all before going into what types of girls look at which of my profiles.


How many have you met for a date?


Have you ever heard the phrase: "Quality, not quantity?"
lol im surprised to hear u say that since you always say that people should give the lower quality girls a chance and meet a bunch to gain experience lol. although you and differ in what the definition of quality(looks vs personality)


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21 Oct 2012, 11:43 pm

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I meant at the party, you said the outfit worked like a charm at the party you attended. I mean that makes a bold statement about who you are is far more effective whether it is real life or online.

The profile seems to be working for me and why it isn't working for wtfid2 is beyond me, I'm just sharing something that is working for me, why don't you try suggesting him a profile or helping him with his profile if you are the guru on creating profiles?


yes, but that attitude of a silly outfit doesnt work on a dating site as easily. its not as shocking as being surrounded by vampires and zombies and then having a nightstand walk by you.

i already explained why. likelyhood is wtfid doesnt ahve many people looking at his profile. and the ones that did could have been looking for something else. I already gave a piece of advice in my thread that has gotten me almost a dozen people saying that it was a good point to bring up. making a profile isnt something that can be done by someone else, especially if that person doesnt know what the objective of the profile is.




also, that picture just proves my point even more. she didnt even mention reading your profile, just your pictures. which i have already discussed in other threads
i get a decent amount of visitors.


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