15 Mar 2013, 3:07 pm
15 Mar 2013, 3:09 pm
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.
I don't know about that, but my observations are:
- Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
- When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.
I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.
But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.
ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.
I knew she was
Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)
I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.
The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.
But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.
Yes but that's another common phenomenon of attractive people - men don't want to get the knock-back that they think is inevitable and some men develop a real dislike of attractive women as they feel not good enough and that they are always being rejected by attractive women. This can breed hatred.
I resent attractive people myself and I'm female and less aggressive than the average man so take my annoyance with them and quadruple it. So that if I were very attractive I'd be feeling a bit nervous as they will be a target for disaffected males far more than the likes of me.
I get low-level derision which doesn't threaten my life. Good lookers get a knife in the guts as 'If I can't have her no one can'
It's another downside of good looks - more attention yes but often of the worst kind ie the 'I'm going to kill you' attention!
So she's probably safest being single
Also, I bet some men approach but they're not up to her 'standard' so she rejects them
You resent attractive people?
Yeah because if you happen to be born with nice hair, good eyes, full lips, you must be a total b***h, right? Is that your logic?And doesn't everyone have the right to reject people? I don't find everyone on this planet attractive, may I? Because I bet you don't either.
I've only rejected a boy once in my whole entire life. Simply because he looked like my little brother and I am not attracted to my little brother.
Not always a b***h but often having a sense of entitlement that's glaringly obvious and will tend to be disliked
Attractive people might be more valued generally by society but they have no more inherent value than anyone else
I don't like being around them as all the fawning and sycophancy that occurs whatever stupid things they say or do annoys me greatly
It's like an insult to a person's intelligence
Lol I don't know what world you live in. Are you from America? Perhaps it's the American superficiality, I don't know...
15 Mar 2013, 3:28 pm
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.
I don't know about that, but my observations are:
- Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
- When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.
I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.
But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.
ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.
I knew she was
Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)
I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.
The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.
First of all: I do not think that I am superattractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people percieve you as akward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
And you assuming how I feel or how my identity is, is ludacris. How dare you even judge me like that? You automatically assume that
1) someone that is attractive to many people finds his/herself attractive too
2) 'attractive' people their idenity is fused with their looks. Quel BS. There are many people that I would judge as attractive that are the most non-superficial people you will ever meet.
Your assumptions are just ridiculous.
As I said, you are benefiting from a societal bias that's working in your favour so you'll hardly want it to end however unlucky in love you claim to be
You have the typical self-confidence of the attractive person who feels they can put the insignificant person in their place
If you have this attitude generally I can see why you're having problems finding someone
Perhaps you should go to a therapist, really. Or talk to a friend about your hate towards people that happen to have bluer eyes or prettier hair than you.
Like I said: I don't think that I am that attractive.
Second, attractive is not the same thing as physically beautiful.
Third, there are SOME advantages to being beautiful and I don't think more beautiful people should be treated better, but there are also situations where being beautiful (especially as a woman) is disadvantageous. I do not have a lot of self confidence at all. If you would have read my post history you would have know that. If I were soooooooo self confident and so attractive I wouldn't be on the forum right now. Almost everyone on here has some confidence issues. That's what we are here for, to try and help each other a little bit.
Also, I study psychology and yet you are telling me what humans are like and how 'attractiveness' bias works.
To bad English isn't my first language, because then I could have explained myself better.
Stop making these infantile claims and unfunded assumptions.
It's plain baseless that you say 'if you have this attitude generally'. What attitude? So when in your eyes 'attractive' people disagree with you they have an attitude? You LIVE a selffullfilling prophecy. Now stop pouring your hate over me, I haven't done anything to you.
I can't help the fact that I look a certain way. What am I supposed to do? Burn my face with acid? Cut my hair off?
Beauty is just one aspect of attractiveness, and even that aspect can be improved. I don't know what your problem is really, but if you're so frustrated about your appearance, work on it. Send me a PM and I can give you some tips.
Lol - I don't know where to start with your post!
Where did you get the idea that bluer eyes were some kind of advantage or more attractive??
and 'prettier hair'??! What's that when it's at home??
Are there beauty contests for hair too now?
If you have to denigrate my ideas as 'infantile' there's not much point in continuing really is there?
I'm not telling you to do anything - I was just expressing my frustration with society's obsession with looks
As for telling me to PM you for tips
I don't think we're on the same wavelength are we?
You think I want to be more like you? No, I just want less worship of looks and a more equal assessment of all
of a person's qualities
I realise this is highly unrealistic but I don't see anything wrong with wishing society were different
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15 Mar 2013, 3:30 pm
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.
I don't know about that, but my observations are:
- Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
- When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.
I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.
But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.
ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.
I knew she was
Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)
I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.
The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.
But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.
Yes but that's another common phenomenon of attractive people - men don't want to get the knock-back that they think is inevitable and some men develop a real dislike of attractive women as they feel not good enough and that they are always being rejected by attractive women. This can breed hatred.
I resent attractive people myself and I'm female and less aggressive than the average man so take my annoyance with them and quadruple it. So that if I were very attractive I'd be feeling a bit nervous as they will be a target for disaffected males far more than the likes of me.
I get low-level derision which doesn't threaten my life. Good lookers get a knife in the guts as 'If I can't have her no one can'
It's another downside of good looks - more attention yes but often of the worst kind ie the 'I'm going to kill you' attention!
So she's probably safest being single
Also, I bet some men approach but they're not up to her 'standard' so she rejects them
You resent attractive people?
Yeah because if you happen to be born with nice hair, good eyes, full lips, you must be a total b***h, right? Is that your logic?And doesn't everyone have the right to reject people? I don't find everyone on this planet attractive, may I? Because I bet you don't either.
I've only rejected a boy once in my whole entire life. Simply because he looked like my little brother and I am not attracted to my little brother.
Not always a b***h but often having a sense of entitlement that's glaringly obvious and will tend to be disliked
Attractive people might be more valued generally by society but they have no more inherent value than anyone else
I don't like being around them as all the fawning and sycophancy that occurs whatever stupid things they say or do annoys me greatly
It's like an insult to a person's intelligence
Lol I don't know what world you live in. Are you from America? Perhaps it's the American superficiality, I don't know...
I live in the UK
I'm hardly advocating superficiality either am I?
15 Mar 2013, 3:36 pm
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.
I don't know about that, but my observations are:
- Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
- When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.
I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.
But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.
ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.
I knew she was
Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)
I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.
The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.
First of all: I do not think that I am superattractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people percieve you as akward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
And you assuming how I feel or how my identity is, is ludacris. How dare you even judge me like that? You automatically assume that
1) someone that is attractive to many people finds his/herself attractive too
2) 'attractive' people their idenity is fused with their looks. Quel BS. There are many people that I would judge as attractive that are the most non-superficial people you will ever meet.
Your assumptions are just ridiculous.
As I said, you are benefiting from a societal bias that's working in your favour so you'll hardly want it to end however unlucky in love you claim to be
You have the typical self-confidence of the attractive person who feels they can put the insignificant person in their place
If you have this attitude generally I can see why you're having problems finding someone
Perhaps you should go to a therapist, really. Or talk to a friend about your hate towards people that happen to have bluer eyes or prettier hair than you.
Like I said: I don't think that I am that attractive.
Second, attractive is not the same thing as physically beautiful.
Third, there are SOME advantages to being beautiful and I don't think more beautiful people should be treated better, but there are also situations where being beautiful (especially as a woman) is disadvantageous. I do not have a lot of self confidence at all. If you would have read my post history you would have know that. If I were soooooooo self confident and so attractive I wouldn't be on the forum right now. Almost everyone on here has some confidence issues. That's what we are here for, to try and help each other a little bit.
Also, I study psychology and yet you are telling me what humans are like and how 'attractiveness' bias works.
To bad English isn't my first language, because then I could have explained myself better.
Stop making these infantile claims and unfunded assumptions.
It's plain baseless that you say 'if you have this attitude generally'. What attitude? So when in your eyes 'attractive' people disagree with you they have an attitude? You LIVE a selffullfilling prophecy. Now stop pouring your hate over me, I haven't done anything to you.
I can't help the fact that I look a certain way. What am I supposed to do? Burn my face with acid? Cut my hair off?
Beauty is just one aspect of attractiveness, and even that aspect can be improved. I don't know what your problem is really, but if you're so frustrated about your appearance, work on it. Send me a PM and I can give you some tips.
Lol - I don't know where to start with your post!
Where did you get the idea that bluer eyes were some kind of advantage or more attractive??
and 'prettier hair'??! What's that when it's at home??
Are there beauty contests for hair too now?
If you have to denigrate my ideas as 'infantile' there's not much point in continuing really is there?
I'm not telling you to do anything - I was just expressing my frustration with society's obsession with looks
That was not to be taken literally. Some people might find brown or green eyes more attractive or whatever kind of hair. I thought I was stating the obvious.
You're not only expressing your frustration with society's 'obsession' with looks, you are also expressing your dislike or hate towards people (women?) that were born with more desirable facial or bodily features. It's not like they can help it....
15 Mar 2013, 3:44 pm
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.
I don't know about that, but my observations are:
- Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
- When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.
I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.
But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.
ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.
I knew she was
Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)
I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.
The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.
First of all: I do not think that I am superattractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people percieve you as akward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
And you assuming how I feel or how my identity is, is ludacris. How dare you even judge me like that? You automatically assume that
1) someone that is attractive to many people finds his/herself attractive too
2) 'attractive' people their idenity is fused with their looks. Quel BS. There are many people that I would judge as attractive that are the most non-superficial people you will ever meet.
Your assumptions are just ridiculous.
As I said, you are benefiting from a societal bias that's working in your favour so you'll hardly want it to end however unlucky in love you claim to be
You have the typical self-confidence of the attractive person who feels they can put the insignificant person in their place
If you have this attitude generally I can see why you're having problems finding someone
Perhaps you should go to a therapist, really. Or talk to a friend about your hate towards people that happen to have bluer eyes or prettier hair than you.
Like I said: I don't think that I am that attractive.
Second, attractive is not the same thing as physically beautiful.
Third, there are SOME advantages to being beautiful and I don't think more beautiful people should be treated better, but there are also situations where being beautiful (especially as a woman) is disadvantageous. I do not have a lot of self confidence at all. If you would have read my post history you would have know that. If I were soooooooo self confident and so attractive I wouldn't be on the forum right now. Almost everyone on here has some confidence issues. That's what we are here for, to try and help each other a little bit.
Also, I study psychology and yet you are telling me what humans are like and how 'attractiveness' bias works.
To bad English isn't my first language, because then I could have explained myself better.
Stop making these infantile claims and unfunded assumptions.
It's plain baseless that you say 'if you have this attitude generally'. What attitude? So when in your eyes 'attractive' people disagree with you they have an attitude? You LIVE a selffullfilling prophecy. Now stop pouring your hate over me, I haven't done anything to you.
I can't help the fact that I look a certain way. What am I supposed to do? Burn my face with acid? Cut my hair off?
Beauty is just one aspect of attractiveness, and even that aspect can be improved. I don't know what your problem is really, but if you're so frustrated about your appearance, work on it. Send me a PM and I can give you some tips.
Lol - I don't know where to start with your post!
Where did you get the idea that bluer eyes were some kind of advantage or more attractive??
and 'prettier hair'??! What's that when it's at home??
Are there beauty contests for hair too now?
If you have to denigrate my ideas as 'infantile' there's not much point in continuing really is there?
I'm not telling you to do anything - I was just expressing my frustration with society's obsession with looks
That was not to be taken literally. Some people might find brown or green eyes more attractive or whatever kind of hair. I thought I was stating the obvious.
You're not only expressing your frustration with society's 'obsession' with looks, you are also expressing your dislike or hate towards people (women?) that were born with more desirable facial or bodily features. It's not like they can help it....
Hmmm and there was me thinking people who have Asperger's Syndrome DO take things literally!
Or is that just the 'ret*d' ones?
Yes I admit I don't like overly attractive people but who can blame me?!
I have to suffer a lot of dislike for being considered not attractive enough but it seems I'm forbidden from disliking the attractive people back
Hmmm, interesting...
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15 Mar 2013, 4:00 pm
15 Mar 2013, 4:03 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
15 Mar 2013, 4:16 pm
Cafeaulait wrote:
First of all: I do not think that I am super attractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
I was looking over this post, because I posted on this topic, and I saw what you wrote here, and found it fascinating, particularly the part about if "people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are."
You're absolutely right, and as someone who attempted to make themselves "attractive" through the use of expensive cologne and nice clothing, it really doesn't have a huge effect on how people react to you socially.
First off, I'm not unattractive by any means, but I am no Orlando Bloom or Channing Tatum either
. I was never awkward or weird, but I tried to figure out what makes an individual "attractive". Was it nice clothes? Nice jewelry? I experimented with this idea- that by altering your appearance to make yourself more physically attractive (through external and easily obtainable constants- like nice clothing, cologne, jewelry, etc.), people will be more receptive to you as a person.
Ummmmm, WRONG! Based on my experiment, I realized that social characteristics, and the way you handle yourself, is what creates "attraction". Like having a good sense of humor, being playful/teasing, being friendly, and having a relaxed and carefree attitude- this is what attracts people! In essence, a likeable personality that elicits emotional responses from the people you are around.
As for women and "attraction", I learned some valuable lessons as well. Women are not nearly as fascinated about how a man dresses or smells, as they are about how he makes her "feel". Women thrive on emotional stimulation, and if a guy can stimulate her emotions (positive emotions, mind you), she's like him or love him. That's why you see guys who are not extremely attractive dating physically attractive women, and why a guy can not be dressed like the cat's meow, and still date women who are very attractive physically. They know how to emotionally stimulate her in a positive way.
In essence, women are not nearly as shallow and superficial as men. A girl could her hair done up in an attractive way (curls for example), wear attractive makeup, get a French manicure/pedicure, wear an attractive curve hugging mini dress with nice stilettos or pumps, and wear perfume, and if she is average to moderately attractive, guys will be slobbering over her like a bulldog eyeing a T-Bone steak.
I'm sure when a woman sees an attractive guy or a well dressed man, they might notice he's well dressed, but they are more interested in how he might make her feel (emotional stimulation).
These are the reasons why I believe you are correct, based on my personal experiences, reading numerous books on attraction and how to attract, and your statement.
15 Mar 2013, 6:51 pm
V_for_Verbose wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
First of all: I do not think that I am super attractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.
I was looking over this post, because I posted on this topic, and I saw what you wrote here, and found it fascinating, particularly the part about if "people perceive you as awkward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are."
You're absolutely right, and as someone who attempted to make themselves "attractive" through the use of expensive cologne and nice clothing, it really doesn't have a huge effect on how people react to you socially.
First off, I'm not unattractive by any means, but I am no Orlando Bloom or Channing Tatum either
. I was never awkward or weird, but I tried to figure out what makes an individual "attractive". Was it nice clothes? Nice jewelry? I experimented with this idea- that by altering your appearance to make yourself more physically attractive (through external and easily obtainable constants- like nice clothing, cologne, jewelry, etc.), people will be more receptive to you as a person. Ummmmm, WRONG! Based on my experiment, I realized that social characteristics, and the way you handle yourself, is what creates "attraction". Like having a good sense of humor, being playful/teasing, being friendly, and having a relaxed and carefree attitude- this is what attracts people! In essence, a likeable personality that elicits emotional responses from the people you are around.
As for women and "attraction", I learned some valuable lessons as well. Women are not nearly as fascinated about how a man dresses or smells, as they are about how he makes her "feel". Women thrive on emotional stimulation, and if a guy can stimulate her emotions (positive emotions, mind you), she's like him or love him. That's why you see guys who are not extremely attractive dating physically attractive women, and why a guy can not be dressed like the cat's meow, and still date women who are very attractive physically. They know how to emotionally stimulate her in a positive way.
In essence, women are not nearly as shallow and superficial as men. A girl could her hair done up in an attractive way (curls for example), wear attractive makeup, get a French manicure/pedicure, wear an attractive curve hugging mini dress with nice stilettos or pumps, and wear perfume, and if she is average to moderately attractive, guys will be slobbering over her like a bulldog eyeing a T-Bone steak.
I'm sure when a woman sees an attractive guy or a well dressed man, they might notice he's well dressed, but they are more interested in how he might make her feel (emotional stimulation).
These are the reasons why I believe you are correct, based on my personal experiences, reading numerous books on attraction and how to attract, and your statement.
True true however, not the whole picture. A person's cultural background plays a huge part in attraction. Where as what you have stated is very true in some cultures its the exact opposite in others. Thus the problem of studying attraction as it varies wildly based on many factors. I know of places in mid west United States where attraction(and worth of persons) is based on the cost of your attire.
16 Mar 2013, 1:29 am
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16 Mar 2013, 4:14 pm
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
Huh? The picture was directed at you.
16 Mar 2013, 4:19 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
Huh? The picture was directed at you.
I'm not with you
Are you saying I'd opened a can of worms or that she had?
And if so, in what context?
Just to let you know, I do have this little-known condition called Asperger's Syndrome so you really need to specify
exactly what you mean or I'm not likely to get it
Tedious I know, that's why I come to an Asperger discussion board to be among like-minded people
Feel free to ask questions if you want to know more about this Asperger's Syndrome condition I have
The_Face_of_Boo
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16 Mar 2013, 4:59 pm
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
Huh? The picture was directed at you.
I'm not with you
Are you saying I'd opened a can of worms or that she had?
And if so, in what context?
Just to let you know, I do have this little-known condition called Asperger's Syndrome so you really need to specify
exactly what you mean or I'm not likely to get it
Tedious I know, that's why I come to an Asperger discussion board to be among like-minded people
Feel free to ask questions if you want to know more about this Asperger's Syndrome condition I have
No, I was referring to your issue with attractive-looking people, when you said that you hate them for a reason.
And since you only understand things literally, on what basis you commented "well said" on the picture above? What did you understand out of it at first?
16 Mar 2013, 5:07 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
Huh? The picture was directed at you.
I'm not with you
Are you saying I'd opened a can of worms or that she had?
And if so, in what context?
Just to let you know, I do have this little-known condition called Asperger's Syndrome so you really need to specify
exactly what you mean or I'm not likely to get it
Tedious I know, that's why I come to an Asperger discussion board to be among like-minded people
Feel free to ask questions if you want to know more about this Asperger's Syndrome condition I have
No, I was referring to your issue with attractive-looking people, when you said that you hate them for a reason.
And since you only understand things literally, on what basis you commented "well said" on the picture above? What did you understand out of it at first?
My understanding was that you meant 'Uh oh someone tackled the looks subject around Vanessa and it's opened a can of worms'
Which you seem to have confirmed
Seeing as I am perfectly happy to acknowledge this issue as a 'can of worms' for me, I was agreeing with you
If you'd hoped to wind me up in other words, you failed as you got agreement, which you evidently weren't expecting
I hate having to run rings round people who think they're oh so superior and so much cleverer than me in order to demonstrate that the opposite is in fact the case
You bring it on yourself though
Carry on 'amusing' everyone with your witty input though...
The_Face_of_Boo
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16 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Well said!
Huh? The picture was directed at you.
I'm not with you
Are you saying I'd opened a can of worms or that she had?
And if so, in what context?
Just to let you know, I do have this little-known condition called Asperger's Syndrome so you really need to specify
exactly what you mean or I'm not likely to get it
Tedious I know, that's why I come to an Asperger discussion board to be among like-minded people
Feel free to ask questions if you want to know more about this Asperger's Syndrome condition I have
No, I was referring to your issue with attractive-looking people, when you said that you hate them for a reason.
And since you only understand things literally, on what basis you commented "well said" on the picture above? What did you understand out of it at first?
My understanding was that you meant 'Uh oh someone tackled the looks subject around Vanessa and it's opened a can of worms'
Which you seem to have confirmed
Seeing as I am perfectly happy to acknowledge this issue as a 'can of worms' for me, I was agreeing with you
If you'd hoped to wind me up in other words, you failed as you got agreement, which you evidently weren't expecting
I hate having to run rings round people who think they're oh so superior and so much cleverer than me in order to demonstrate that the opposite is in fact the case
You bring it on yourself though
Carry on 'amusing' everyone with your witty input though...
Alright, so we both agree. It's nice to admit it.
No need to talk about it further.
