Giving up
Right now you might think you've got a piece of somebody's jigsaw. But you're shoving it in with the finesse of a blind man wearing boxing gloves. Wrong piece at the wrong time - presuming you are right, of course.
I've nothing more to say to you until you come to your senses - you cannot help anyone until you do. You are no more or less important than anyone else. If you have problems with women, please deal with them rather than take them out on those who have done nothing to hurt you.
I suggest that everyone else leaves you be on this thread, too. I wish you well.
There is NO dignity in mental self-abuse.
Least I don't think with preconceptions in place, brought about by a combination of cronyism, white knight protection of a girl and clique mentality. Let's just pretend you're not sticking up for someone you know and find attractive and ignoring logical words of other people. You're nothing but a suck up. What is it, girl with blonde hair talking and you lose all sense of objectivity? Disgusting
How's it feel to have your motivations questioned. I know what I think made your decisions for you. Lose you virginity and you might find yourself less in thrall to a pretty face.
Anything else can take a running jump into the volcano of nasal mucus, really.
I don't think I'm going to go and do anything stupid any more though.
Well, nuts to him - really. He can't see how awesome you are, that's his problem.
No, I don't think you can completely rule out doing something 'stupid'. Sometimes stupid works. And some people are worth it - he wasn't.
Lol.
Least I don't think with preconceptions in place, brought about by a combination of cronyism, white knight protection of a girl and clique mentality. Let's just pretend you're not sticking up for someone you know and find attractive and ignoring logical words of other people. You're nothing but a suck up. What is it, girl with blonde hair talking and you lose all sense of objectivity? Disgusting
How's it feel to have your motivations questioned. I know what I think made your decisions for you. Lose you virginity and you might find yourself less in thrall to a pretty face.
Your words are meaningless, and forgettable, and completely lack logic. If you are the last bastion of objectivity then we are all in deep trouble. Thanks for the kind advice; it doesn't apply to me, but I apprecite your effort.
You may interpret my motivations whatever way you wish, but you are saying more about the way you see the world.
I hate to tell you, but I didn't judge you on some preconception. I'm looking at your disgusting attention-seeking posting. If you are lonely, there's a better way of dealing with it.
You are clearly (from your posts) a troubled young man, drunk on his own intelligence yet imperceptive to his own blindness. I wish you well. And, this time I have definitely nothing more to say.
Anyway, you put everyone but yourself into that category, so at least I'm in company
I completely never do! But as I keep saying, it's impossible to see one's own's blindness, so how can I talk about mine when I can't see them! the trouble is that it is difficult to rely on the opinions of most others as they are usually influenced by projection and their own personal filter (this goes obviously for everyone, me and you included). But, you know, we keep trying our best and the fact that you are able to acknowledge your own faults and shortcomings even if you at present can't do anything about them is still quite huge.
_________________
context is king
Well a couple of weeks ago, I made a post and you said that I was too intent on imposing my world view on others - and you were right. I never thanked you for that.
I think sometimes we have moments of clarity - I think I'm having more as I get older. However, I'm not saying I can't be stupid or egocentric, far from it...I'm working on it
But I don't blame anyone else for this, or my happiness, but myself.
Anyway, you put everyone but yourself into that category, so at least I'm in company
I completely never do! But as I keep saying, it's impossible to see one's own's blindness, so how can I talk about mine when I can't see them! the trouble is that it is difficult to rely on the opinions of most others as they are usually influenced by projection and their own personal filter (this goes obviously for everyone, me and you included). But, you know, we keep trying our best and the fact that you are able to acknowledge your own faults and shortcomings even if you at present can't do anything about them is still quite huge.
I used to blame all the mistakes in communication on myself. Now I am slowly starting to believe that I am not always to blame when someone took offense by something I said.
I think sometimes we have moments of clarity - I think I'm having more as I get older. However, I'm not saying I can't be stupid or egocentric, far from it...I'm working on it
I am not saying it's not easy to let one's brain get to one's head..hang on there was a song about it once..from a Mancunian band if memory serves
anyhow..
Point is, neither you nor I nor anyone else has always been the fo(u)nt of wisdom we are now, so it is as well to try and be a bit more patient with those others who may not have got as far or maybe they never will be able to. You are just very impatient with people who don't meet your high standards. Well. I say that. I know I am like that and it is also what I have observed from some of your posts. Which would be fine if we weren't talking about people you first try to 'help'.
nb. the hardest lesson of my entire life was to learn not to try to help people. It took the best part of my life and I'm probably only now really starting to be cured.
Can you honestly say you don't feel slighted when your earnest attempts to be helpful fall on deaf ears?
I mean, here you are, going out of your way to enlighten and assist and all you get for your time and effort is insults or worse.
And yet, you know you cannot help yourself, you HAVE to answer the call. It's difficult to cope with that kind of pull push experience. I know this myself. So, when things get really on top of me and I feel very slighted and put upon, I think...to be truly zen, is to be zen even when the chaos rages all around me. I haven't achieved that yet, but that is what I am aiming for. It may not be the right thing for others though, so I stop myself most of the time before trying to advise people to make efforts in the same direction. We ARE all different, even if we are all the same .. what do I know?
_________________
context is king
Hum that song to me!
I'm learning. Since I've been here on this board, there's been four of five things that have helped. Like jigsaw pieces falling into place, and I know two posters in particular have helped me.
I don't think it's a bad thing helping people. The trick is knowing when to help people. Arrogant? Sometimes. It depends on one's motive - which, funny enough, isn't always seen clearly by others. Sometimes my motives won't be understood - the main thing is if I understand them, and am not kidding myself about it.
Sage, onion, sausage and gravy, that. Yep. I'm aiming for the same thing. Sometimes I wonder if that is becoming fully human, or fully inhuman...
I used to blame all the mistakes in communication on myself. Now I am slowly starting to believe that I am not always to blame when someone took offense by something I said.
Communication by definition involves more than one person so it stands to reason it's not always your fault.
I keep meaning to ask - now that it is November/December, are you not some sort of paradox?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iul4SBlHIf8[/youtube]
_________________
context is king
