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04 Feb 2014, 12:28 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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the common NT woman model is
- have responsible, faithful (dull) man to marry, have kids with, provide for her and her kids
- have some flings with alpha male types when fertile, to get some alpha male kids into the gene pool of the tribe

Stereotype much?

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Probably has never even SPOKEN TO an NT women.
Making sh** up does not an expert make.


married to one for 25+ years, many NT women I know, NT daughters etc; does that count?


So this is the type of behaviour you expect from your wife and daughters?
I hope they are aware of what type of husband/father they have.


their behaviours will depend, as for all NT women, on normal internal battle between inherited apewoman gene drivers (as above) vs. cultural present day attempted norms from Christianity, romance ideas etc



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04 Feb 2014, 12:29 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
JCJC777 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JCJC777 wrote:
the common NT woman model is
- have responsible, faithful (dull) man to marry, have kids with, provide for her and her kids
- have some flings with alpha male types when fertile, to get some alpha male kids into the gene pool of the tribe

Stereotype much?

:roll:


Probably has never even SPOKEN TO an NT women.
Making sh** up does not an expert make.


married to one for 25+ years, many NT women I know, NT daughters etc; does that count?


So this is the type of behaviour you expect from your wife and daughters?
I hope they are aware of what type of husband/father they have.


their behaviours will depend, as for all NT women, on normal internal battle between inherited apewoman gene drivers (as above) vs. cultural present day attempted norms from Christianity, romance ideas etc


Got it. Christianity will save the apewomen from themselves.


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04 Feb 2014, 12:30 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
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Who_Am_I wrote:
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the common NT woman model is
- have responsible, faithful (dull) man to marry, have kids with, provide for her and her kids
- have some flings with alpha male types when fertile, to get some alpha male kids into the gene pool of the tribe

Stereotype much?

:roll:


Probably has never even SPOKEN TO an NT women.
Making sh** up does not an expert make.


married to one for 25+ years, many NT women I know, NT daughters etc; does that count?

Nice that your wife stuck by you despite your betamale dullness. You must be a good Cuckold for her alpha babies.........:wink:


exactly. but I get many benefits, being actively married with a very beautiful woman .........:wink:



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04 Feb 2014, 12:33 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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"Nice" has to be one of the most boring words we have.

I think no one wants an evil person. A dishonest person. But certain males here insist on thinking in black and white. That men are either nice or bad. Then often the ones that are rejected the most, like to attack, and say women are stupid and they say they want nice guys, but they don't really. That what they really want is bad guys. Because "so so" is a good man, and keeps being rejected.

I love how simplistic some of these views are.

No one is perfect. But there's always someone more suited for each one of us.


To add onto this. The "nice" guy that was rejected automatically assumes that the girl rejected him because he's nice. I've never rejected a guy because he was nice. Maybe guys need to really do some introspecting on this topic. Maybe they were needy, not showing they were trustworthy, maybe they weren't funny enough, or maybe, simply, the girl just wasn't attracted. There's so many reasons for rejection and it 99.9% of the time isn't happening due to someone being nice.


Honestly, I never thought that being nice was a turn off for women until the internet got loaded with all this "nice guy" garbage.


Ty, just what I was thinking.
Men simply chose women better than women chose men.
Silly little girls go chasing after trash in tattoos and piercings, and then they come back hurt crying on your shoulder and you're a as*hole for not wanting to hear it.

No wonder the nice guy who gets friend zoned gets pissed when he knows what he wants and that's her, but she's not in to him because she wants to go chase scum and cool looking dudes wearing t-shirts of owls with mustaches... . . .. . .. .
And when horny tattoo guy is done pounding this lil gal she's suddenly used and exploited and hurt and bla bla bla.


You know what most guys do when we get rejected and treated badly? We get the f**k up again and whine to no one trying again to make some stupid girl recognize true character and value.

I have no sympathy for girls who f**k them selves like that over and over and over...
This "nice" label is very dumb.


I cannot see any possible reason why you aren't covered in women right now.


^ This :lol:


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04 Feb 2014, 12:36 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
JCJC777 wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
JCJC777 wrote:
the common NT woman model is
- have responsible, faithful (dull) man to marry, have kids with, provide for her and her kids
- have some flings with alpha male types when fertile, to get some alpha male kids into the gene pool of the tribe

Stereotype much?

:roll:


Probably has never even SPOKEN TO an NT women.
Making sh** up does not an expert make.


married to one for 25+ years, many NT women I know, NT daughters etc; does that count?

Nice that your wife stuck by you despite your betamale dullness. You must be a good Cuckold for her alpha babies.........:wink:


exactly. but I get many benefits, being actively married with a very beautiful woman .........:wink:


Based on your description, it sounded like those too were reserved for your alpha competitors.


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04 Feb 2014, 12:41 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
exactly. but I get many benefits, being actively married with a very beautiful woman .........:wink:


*Vomit* I'd rather sand my cock off than be some cuckolded fool.



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04 Feb 2014, 12:46 pm

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exactly. but I get many benefits, being actively married with a very beautiful woman .........:wink:


*Vomit* I'd rather sand my cock off than be some cuckolded fool.


you're all misreading this. You'll find alpha males are relaxed about not needing to claim it



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04 Feb 2014, 12:46 pm

I believe that a lot of this stuff can be applied for employment as well. What I don't grasp for the life of me is why all of this wasn't spelled out from the jump. Why do we have to get all of this hoopla just to obtain all of this information? How are some people to simply derive this without it being spelled out? Can someone answer these things.



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04 Feb 2014, 12:47 pm

One thing that is noticeably absent from all these discussions is the concept of respect, which is a two-way street. Lack of respect in a relationship/marriage makes it a worthless partnership. I could not be with someone I did not respect, nor could I be with someone who did not respect me.

It amazes me how people can be desperate enough for a relationship--any relationship--to put up with a partner that cheats or abuses them or even fails to respect them. I'd much rather be alone.



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04 Feb 2014, 12:50 pm

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You're all misreading this. You'll find alpha males are relaxed about not needing to claim it


I could introduce you to this guy Heartiste, a self-proclaimed "alpha male" that spends all day retching at the weakling behaviors of "beta males".

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I'd much rather be alone.


No kidding. I'd rather have good friends and a fleshlight. "It feels just like a real p****!"



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04 Feb 2014, 1:02 pm

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One thing that is noticeably absent from all these discussions is the concept of respect, which is a two-way street. Lack of respect in a relationship/marriage makes it a worthless partnership. I could not be with someone I did not respect, nor could I be with someone who did not respect me.

It amazes me how people can be desperate enough for a relationship--any relationship--to put up with a partner that cheats or abuses them or even fails to respect them. I'd much rather be alone.



Bowing back in for a second.

This might actually be the best post I have read in this thread yet. I have actually been involved in relationships where I got abused and disrespected hard. I know I posted about it almost a year ago. Most painful experience I have ever been in.

Obviously, it is not recommended to try and get in a relationship with someone else right away either until you can finally come to grips with reality of what happened as well. So add in the self-respect part and you will have an easier time respecting others (obvious) and respecting your own boundaries. Also respect the progress you have made in your life as well and be proud of it.


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04 Feb 2014, 1:06 pm

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One thing that is noticeably absent from all these discussions is the concept of respect, which is a two-way street. Lack of respect in a relationship/marriage makes it a worthless partnership. I could not be with someone I did not respect, nor could I be with someone who did not respect me.

It amazes me how people can be desperate enough for a relationship--any relationship--to put up with a partner that cheats or abuses them or even fails to respect them. I'd much rather be alone.



Bowing back in for a second.

This might actually be the best post I have read in this thread yet. I have actually been involved in relationships where I got abused and disrespected hard. I know I posted about it almost a year ago. Most painful experience I have ever been in.

Obviously, it is not recommended to try and get in a relationship with someone else right away either until you can finally come to grips with reality of what happened as well. So add in the self-respect part and you will have an easier time respecting others (obvious) and respecting your own boundaries. Also respect the progress you have made in your life as well and be proud of it.


maybe just too optimistic/idealistic. maybe human relationships are actually transactional. a trade; each partner gets benefits

get real. she may appear to be all sorts of things. in fact she has some pretty clear internal drivers, life aims



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04 Feb 2014, 1:13 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
Shau wrote:
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exactly. but I get many benefits, being actively married with a very beautiful woman .........:wink:


*Vomit* I'd rather sand my cock off than be some cuckolded fool.


you're all misreading this. You'll find alpha males are relaxed about not needing to claim it


Based on your description one can conclude that

A) You are the alpha male functioning as the cheating tool
B) You are the beta male getting cheated on
C) Your wife is not a common NT woman, which sort of makes your comment pointless

Since you are married in the first place, it's easy to assume that you are B)


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04 Feb 2014, 1:14 pm

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maybe human relationships are actually transactional. a trade; each partner gets benefits


I tend to view most human interaction as such, and it hasn't dampened my appreciation for human interaction one bit, much as understanding my emotions to be nothing more than an electrochemical cascade didn't.



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04 Feb 2014, 1:24 pm

JCJC777 wrote:
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One thing that is noticeably absent from all these discussions is the concept of respect, which is a two-way street. Lack of respect in a relationship/marriage makes it a worthless partnership. I could not be with someone I did not respect, nor could I be with someone who did not respect me.

It amazes me how people can be desperate enough for a relationship--any relationship--to put up with a partner that cheats or abuses them or even fails to respect them. I'd much rather be alone.



Bowing back in for a second.

This might actually be the best post I have read in this thread yet. I have actually been involved in relationships where I got abused and disrespected hard. I know I posted about it almost a year ago. Most painful experience I have ever been in.

Obviously, it is not recommended to try and get in a relationship with someone else right away either until you can finally come to grips with reality of what happened as well. So add in the self-respect part and you will have an easier time respecting others (obvious) and respecting your own boundaries. Also respect the progress you have made in your life as well and be proud of it.


maybe just too optimistic/idealistic. maybe human relationships are actually transactional. a trade; each partner gets benefits

get real. she may appear to be all sorts of things. in fact she has some pretty clear internal drivers, life aims


Who in the world are you referring to here as "she"? Are you referring to the girl i was referring to, or your own experience with your family? Or Eureka's post?


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04 Feb 2014, 1:37 pm

So what if human relationships are transactions?

If you go into a store to buy a pair of Levis 501s blue jeans in size 34x34, are you going to be satisfied if you walk out with a pair of red Lee chinos in size 30x28? Probably not, although the store owner may be perfectly fine with the outcome. Any transaction of any kind is based on BOTH parties getting what they require out of the transaction.