AspieOtaku wrote:
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tarantella64 wrote:
Okay, so I talked to the director of the women's center here about helping us come up with a reasonable policy for moderating sexism (I imagine the same policy can be used as a template for moderating other -isms). She thought it sounded like a great project, and says she's in. A little about her background and what the center does (I have her permission to tell these stories):
She is sensitive to issues to do with life on the spectrum. For her, that awareness and training started in childhood; her brother has Down Syndrome, and at the time, where they grew up, the schools put Down's and autistic kids in the same classrooms; her brother had many autistic classmates. So she was exposed to autism quite early, at a time when that was unusual, and is sensitive to disability generally.
The women's center does counseling for those who can't afford a counselor or want a feminist orientation; the counselors are doctoral students in psychology, usually. The director helps train them in counseling autistic clients. She also helps the local rape crisis center with programming/counseling for autistic victims of sexual abuse.
As for men's programming, the women's center has run programs with a volunteer group of men for six years. They do anti-violence programs, bystander training, and programs for the fraternities, and have some considerable background in social pressures on men, particularly to do with gender policing (men pressuring men to "be male" in particular and narrow ways).
So, to get started then: she likes the idea of coming up with concrete examples of "sexist/not sexist and why, also why it matters", and she very much likes the idea of inviting questions about sexism and moderation of sexism from forumites to help generate a useful set of examples. So go for it -- ask away, think about (and/or post) your own thoughts about those questions, and we'll see what she's got to add to the process. I bet we can come up with something useful -- and, per SoftwareEngineer and others, educational -- by the end of the summer.
Can I ask a question? How would one distinguish between someone who's ranting over bad dating experience, possibly due to poor social skills, and is possibly just lonely over it and someone who is actually sexist. The reason why I'm asking this is because in other thread, which was locked, the user by the name of Giftorcurse, posted something that initially looked to me like it was standard ranting over dating woes but subsequently posted comments which I recognised as misogynistic in that thread (calling the women who appeared to show interest in him "sluts", and referring to all women "whore" for example). I've personally also ranted on occasion but I don't believe that I've ever posted anything that would be considered misogynistic, and I would never consider posting anything like that.
Do you think the dynamics of the interactions and exchanges had anything to do with the path of the thread? Do you think there were primary and secondary factors?
No, I don't think that the exchanges had anything to do with those misogynistic statements because they were general sexist statements about women and not in response to any specific post. They seemed to of reflected what he actually thought.
Have you considered the possibility what you saw was a typical autistic meltdown under pressure, as opposed to the real characteristics of the individual being exposed?
He has a pattern of saying similar things in the past.
To answer Jono's earlier question, we look how a member posts over time to see if a post is just an outburst or part of a general pattern of sexist posts.
If something is just a one-off outburst, then I can see the benefits of the membership telling the person that what they said was incorrect and offensive.
not to be hurtful, but he does seem to seem to be a bit sexist and hateful towards women. though apparently I'm a sexist so I doubt what I say matters.
I have had my moments and I am sure many others have too but I don't think it means we are indeffinatly! Dont let it get to you but dont allow your self to be sexist all the time either try your best not to be in the future that is all I can ask,
I didn't think I was sexist, I have nothing against women or think of them as a lesser sex. Before this joining this forum I'd never heard of misogynistic, PUA, MRA, etc.
I'm not a writer, I don't like grammar or writing/reading. I have problems with words, be it phrasing them right(which seems to be this case here) I have been having problems with swapping words and its scaring me.
I feel really bad now, but I still don't get why forgetting to say " i think" or "i feel" or "it seems like" etc. means I'm sexist,
It kinda feels like people here just don't like hearing bad stuff about women, but there are bad women and bad men. Why can't we talk about them ? I make observations about women in my area, which is the only women i have the chance of seeing, and I'm a sexist. I can't help that they act that way where you believe most don't, but it is how the ones on dating sites, and Craigslist act here. certainly not all of them but I'd say a rough estimate is that at least 60% of them.
that said I hardly ever ever call women names, or demean them in any way that the education system and workforce would describe as sexist. I don't believe in any of that stuff, the times I did call someone b***h, was only in my head and I felt terrible about it and apologized to them.
30 May 2014, 10:49 pm
