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30 May 2014, 6:59 pm

why the attack on cafe au lait? Sounds like you and your guy have something special. I am sorry for the cruelty being thrown your way. You are an incredible and sweet person.

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30 May 2014, 7:15 pm

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Why is everyone ganging up on Cafeaulait? I don't see anything wrong with what she said. If she had said "I love my bf even though he's blonde", would that make her a terrible person too? I personally think that the acknowledgement and acceptance of your partner's flaws, as well as your own, is an important step towards a lasting relationship.

Ah, you had to play the hair color card. C'mon, everyone knows about the wretched history of discrimination against blondes. But wait, no, most of those blonde jokes are nothing other than jokes punching down women, except with plausible deniability.

I agree that she said nothing wrong, but I also understand why people got set off by her post.

And I'm still waiting for those sources I asked about for the assertions in your earlier post.

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30 May 2014, 7:57 pm

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And I'm still waiting for those sources I asked about for the assertions in your earlier post.

Huh? Are you talking about assertions/sources from one of my posts...? Which one?

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30 May 2014, 8:24 pm

Whoops, my bad. I got confused because both your usernames start with the word star.

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31 May 2014, 1:06 am

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starryeyedvoyager wrote:

In my oppinion, this topic is a perfect example of where this whole gender equality thing is going wrong: Men should not be forced to be apologetic all the time, and women should not be forced into a position where they have to justify themselves for having standards or for celebrating their own sexuality.

I knew that I should have stopped after reading this part. Tears are streaming down my face, just thinking about AO being forced, forced to apologize.

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Us people with AS, we need to take everything with a pinch of salt, so don't weigh in every word somebody says, especially with women. Women are by their very nature more subtle and delicate when it comes to social interaction - some more, some less, but that is how our "hardware" ships.

How about you go ahead and, starting from here, cite some sources for each of your ridiculous assertions that follow?

By forced, I did not exactly mean absolute force, but rather moral pressure. I could have been more clear about that specific point, but I thought it was clear from how I put it that I, of course, did not mean that someone forces them to do so, but rather that they FEEL forced or pressured.

Other than that, if you call my statements ridicilous, I think it is up to you to disprove me, isn't it? From the legal standpoint, I can of course only talk for my own country - and for Europe to certain degree. But dropping a charge like that and expecting me to do your busy work is not going to work out, I am afraid. How are my assertions ridicilous? How about you give me something to work with as to why you found them to be so? This is not how discussion works, nor scientific discussion for that matter. If you want answers and me to invest into providing sources, you have to get a little more specific than "No, all lies!" Just from the way you are wording things with your sarcastic polemics, I am more than hesitant to enter any kind of meaningful discussion with you, I have to admit, since it implies that you will very quickly go ad hominem. So, if you want me to answer, you better ask the right questions.

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31 May 2014, 1:26 am

^^^ [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0[/youtube]

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31 May 2014, 2:25 am

Cafeaulait wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

smudge wrote:

I think what Cafeaulait said was mean as well. "Even though he's overweight" implies that being overweight is a fault. If a man had said that, it wouldn't be given so much leeway (although unfortunately on this forum it tends to).

Yes, it was but mean, and yes I believe if a man said that women here would jump his down his throat and tell him how shallow and mean he is...etc. :lol:

But to be fair, Cafeaulait is still new in the relationship department, she has struggled a long time to have a bf, so it's probably inexperience and naivety regarding relationships.

Pathetic. First of all you don't know much about my experience with relationships or my presumed "naivity". Second, I don't know what this has to do with me saying that I love my boyfriend even though he is not perfect.

If I recall correctly, from previous posts, that you had a one bf when you were teen before that one.

Anyway I didn't mean it in a negative way, I am very inexperienced and naive at times my self, didn't say that to put you down. I said that trying to explain to smudge why you didn't mean it as a mean thing (the "even tho he's overweight") - I don't think you think less of your bf because of his weight fault. And yes you're right, for every good couple, one is aware of the other's flaws.
I don't think you had a bad intention by saying that about your bf.

Anyway I wish you both best luck, sorry for any offense.

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31 May 2014, 2:37 am

Am I the only one who got Cafeaulets post not intending to be offensive or shallow in any way? What she means is she doesn't care about his faults or imperfections that's about it! Please folks dont jump to conclusions and gang up on her like that. I don't want fights to break out on this thread I am trying to make and keep peace in anyway I can and don't want to have to request this thread locked.

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31 May 2014, 4:44 am

Yupa wrote:

Misanthropy is a natural symptom of autism.

Fixed it.

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31 May 2014, 6:04 am

A little misanthropy is healthy.

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31 May 2014, 6:17 am

starryeyedvoyager wrote:

if you call my statements ridicilous, I think it is up to you to disprove me, isn't it?

Not in any normal debate. If you want to make an assertion, you need to back it up. That goes double when you make statements like this one:

starryeyedvoyager wrote:

At the same time, the amount of men being wrongfully accused has increased dramatically

I feel sure that as someone "involved with the law," you have ready access to unbiased research and statistics from your region. It would seriously harm your credibility if you made such an outrageous claim without any evidence.

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31 May 2014, 8:06 am

AspieOtaku wrote:

I just hope that everyone will, with as much zealotry, defend the next guy who is under fire for calling his girlfriend/wife/mother/sister stupid or something. I just get irked when someone makes disparaging remarks toward their SO's whether it be out in public, at home, or on a public forum. I can't tell through context whether it is good natured ribbing or something more sinister. I will next time keep my displeasure to myself.

As I said before sorry for derailing the thread.

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31 May 2014, 11:32 am

FWIW, I can say pretty stupid and mean things sometimes myself, and be oblivious about it. I have nothing against you Cafeaulait, I'm sorry if I upset you.

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01 Jun 2014, 12:05 am

smudge wrote:

FWIW, I can say pretty stupid and mean things sometimes myself, and be oblivious about it. I have nothing against you Cafeaulait, I'm sorry if I upset you.

Im sure shell forgive you if not I forgive you we all say stupid things once in a while and no your not an angry feminist! I am truly sorry for that in the past out of a joke that went out of hand and offer you a hug you are a very kind and sincere person. I myself am a kind and sincere person just misunderstood with the tendecaies of being immature hyper and getting out of hand with my mischief and I am working on it I myself do have a heart and am not a hateful monster.

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01 Jun 2014, 12:05 am

smudge wrote:

FWIW, I can say pretty stupid and mean things sometimes myself, and be oblivious about it. I have nothing against you Cafeaulait, I'm sorry if I upset you.

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01 Jun 2014, 10:22 am

It's OK AspieOtaku, no hard feelings. Just don't keep doing it, or apologising will mean nothing and look insincere.

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